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PanicCured
03-06-2012, 10:20 AM
I have written about how practicing reduced breathing excercises taught to me by Patrick McKeown, the writer of, Anxiety Free: Stop Worrying and Quieten the Mind, was a huge help to turning my panic disorder and agoraphobia around. I basically was searching on the internet about hyperventialtion syndrome and stumbled upon "Buteyko Breathing." Then I bought Patrick's book and read it, and emailed him. He did a session with me over Skype for $50 and then I practiced multiple times a day the excercises and listened to the CD that came with the book. I did lots of other things too, which I wrote about above, but understanding the O2/CO2 balance was groundbreaking for me. Understanding that the harder I breathed the worse it was making me feel. In excercise of course you need to breathe harder, but there is a fine balance of when it becomes over breathing. I constantly felt like I could not get enough air in so I would breathe harder and harder, deeper and deeper thinking I was getting more oxygen in. This screwed up everything and made me feel worse and worse.

I do not work for Patrick or am I trying to sell you this. He has no idea I am writing this.

Anyway, I just received this very interesting email today and I wanted to share it with you. It's actually from a Buteyko Breathing Center, that Patrick is not associated with.

Ram Dass was a very inspiring spiritual teacher to me when I was in my 20s and I found this fascinating.



People often think that oxygen plays the primary role in the process of breathing but Dr. Buteyko dispelled this archaic belief. He proved that this role belongs to carbon dioxide, which regulates how much oxygen is delivered to various organs.

Recently I have been working with Ram Dass, a famous spiritual teacher and former psychology professor at Harvard. In 1997 Ram Dass experienced a stroke; in 2011, when we met, he was still suffering from its consequences. His speech and memory were greatly impaired. He had to pause in between each word and often would forget what he wanted to say or would pick up with the wrong word. Besides this, Ram Dass had breathing difficulties, sleep apnea, high blood pressure and other health issues. The interesting thing was that he lives on the island of Maui, Hawaii close to the Pacific Ocean, surrounded by endless waves of oxygen. In addition to being in a healthy environment, he has been practicing meditation, Pranayama, and stays on a very healthy diet. He had a whole group of medical doctors and alternative practitioners working on his health and yet they were not able to improve it.

The cofounder of Omega Institute for Holistic Studies, Stephan Rechtschaffen, MD, suggested to Ram Dass to start working with a specialist in our Breathing Center. Stephan believed that it would help, since his son who had been asthmatic was able to overcome his condition by following one of our programs. Ram Dass yielded to Stephan's persuasion and that's how my weekly Skype sessions with him began.

When I saw this elderly noble man I experienced strong compassion - it was obvious that he was greatly suffering from oxygen starvation. His mouth was open almost all the time and his breathing was noticeable heavy. In the beginning I repeated almost incessantly, 'Ram Dass, please close your mouth.' Fortunately, as a person of high awareness and good discipline, he started doing his breathing exercises regularly and soon was able to lighten his breathing. Within three months his situation changed. He was able to sleep without his sleep apnea machine, his blood pressure became more normal, and his anxiety regarding his breathing was completely gone. Perhaps, even more important for him, was the fact that his speech became much more fluent and his memory improved considerably. All of this just because he reduced his over-breathing and consequently increased the amount of carbon dioxide in his lungs - therefore all his organs, including his brain, started receiving more oxygen.

Please watch this short video clip of Ram Dass's testimonial. We are still working the full version.

Sincerely,
Sasha Yakovleva-Fredricksen
Executive Director
www.BreathingCenter.com

jessed03
03-06-2012, 11:15 AM
Panic, maybe you want to make everything the same font and size? It makes a very informative method, look like one of those dodgy sales letters that gets posted, in about 10 different font sizes.

Out of interest, did you ever get to 40+CP? How long did it take. I got to around the late 20', early 30's, and kind of waned. But I want to go back to it. I quit being so busy with work, but I feel like I cut out on it.

It was just hard finding those 90 mins a day to practice. Plus, the idea of sitting for so long, focusing on breathing alone can get tedious after a few months, especially once you're breathing is normal (but not great). I know you can reduce time once reaching a certain point. I'm just wondering if it was worth it, in your experience, going from a 25ish CP - 40+

As always Panic, much respect and gratitude for directing my attention towards this method, and your info on it. :)

I am always quick to recommend others when I feel it could be helpful. I read something like 95% of anxiety sufferers over breathe! It's not a cure, but a very effective piece of the puzzle.

(For anyone that wants more info, PM me, I have a free informative ebook, discussing the method that I'll send on)

plumb
03-06-2012, 02:07 PM
i have recently bought the butyeko book and have started to read through it, i have took my cp but havent really started a routine of doing the practises daily as i was planning reading the full book first, it seems pretty hard going and quite a long time to dedicate to it, would people who have did it say that its defintley worth it? if so then i am more than willing to put in the time and effort . also it emphasises on only breathing through your nose which is quite hard , where other relaxation breathing methods encourage in through nose out through mouth, why is this ? thanks

jessed03
03-06-2012, 02:09 PM
It depends solely on your CP plumb. :)

What's it currently at? Any rough figure would be fine. I got to around the 30's, and can sort of tell you what happened to me through the stages.

PanicCured
03-07-2012, 04:49 AM
First off, don't sweat the details so hard. You guys are geting anxiety about curing anxiety. Just try your best. Nothing has to be so perfect all the time. Just take it easy guys!

I wrote it in a different font to show that that was an email I got. I got this email from the mailing list I was on at that Buteyko breathing center, and thought it was interesting I wanted to share it with you all. I made it a different font so you can see that was what I was emailed. Just a really cool letter, especially if you know who Ram Dass is.

I never got to a CP of 40. But after a matter of days of reduced breathing excercises my anxiety went from a 10 to like a 5. Talking to Patrick on Skype really helped me. It helps to have someone teach you. I think we talked for like an hour and I paypalled him $50. Read the book and listened to the CD at least once a day. I was really into the practices so for me it wasn't a task.
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Anyway, if you find breathing through your nose all the time difficult, then you probably need this stuff. I breathe through my nose all the time unless I am excercising really hard.

I am no expert in this stuff. But reversing my strong desire to overbreathe was very helpful to me, and after reading this letter, reinforces to me how importanrt proper breathing is for all aspects of health.

I think the yoga breathing stuff we are told is healthy, may be for a different purpose. If you think about it, in yoga you breathe always through your nose, and it is deep. But for one, you are excercising so you need to breathe more, but also, you are breathing deeper but slower. In yoga you breathe in a slow and steady rhythm. Qi Gong and Pranayama have ther purpose too. But who does this all day long? My guess is the Buteyko stuff is to help reset your repsiratory centers in your brain so your body maintains the proper O2/CO2 balance.

Also remember, most lay people do not understand physiology.

I don't know it all and nobody really does. But I buy into the philosophy behind it all and do attribute much benefit from it. It make sense to me. There areother books ot there too and other info on the internet. My guess is everyone can use it somewhat, but for some people it will be much mre effectiv if breathign is your issue. I mean, how mny times do we hear people on this forum talk about how they feel they can't breathe.

jessed03
03-07-2012, 06:11 AM
I'm not sure anybodies anxious about this panic? :p Just curious. I saw a lot going from 8 to 20ish. I just wonder if there are more going from 20 to 40.

It could have looked nice in quotation marks, and italics, but hey, this is your baby ;)

Thanks for the info.

plumb
03-07-2012, 12:15 PM
first time i got 22 but not sure if i was doing it properly, since doing it again i only got 10. im just going to work my way through book and give it a try. thanks

jessed03
03-07-2012, 12:42 PM
first time i got 22 but not sure if i was doing it properly, since doing it again i only got 10. im just going to work my way through book and give it a try. thanks

At 10, it's definitely worth working up to 20ish, which is the normal area. Keep at it, it can be a bit frustrating to be begin with.

DidThatJustHappen
09-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Hey, I don't mean to dig up an old thread, but I was curious, what are the exact exercises that you guys are doing to get your CP down? My CP is abysmal, and although I have a book on the Buteyko method and have read up on the internet about it, none of the sources I have seen so far, including the book, are very clear about what exactly I should be doing day in and day out.

Any help in clarifying the routine would be much appreciated.