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[rhirhi18]

Hey :) basically 18 years old always smiling etc until I started having anxiety attacks a year ago that I try to hide. They can be anytime but recently I have had alot of stress. I tried to complete my a levels with anxiety attacks going on and therefore got dissapointing grades which I recieved last month. I also got m nose pierced at this time and was putting the back on and it was up my nose not attached to the piercing I tried to get it out and did not feel myself inhale it or feel it fall out. I went to the walk in centre and got them to have a look after having a panic attack about it and they said there was nothing there however since then I have been constantly on the internet reading about how serious it could be if it's in my body and I'm sure you can all understand as anxiety sufferers the thought of something that you cannot see is the worst thing for us. Also meant to be attending university next week but cannot face it and my parents don;t understand why. I am thinking of booking a doctors appointment but the fear of leaving the house has anyone got any advice ?
Thankyou xxx

[Itzomi]

I know how you feel. I think we've all either swallowed something by accident or got something in our bodies by accident and freaked out. My BF has had a lead pencil tip in his ankle for decades. These things happen! My mom freaked out when I swallowed a penny as a child. (It came out eventually...bright & shiny as new!)

If the walk-in clinic didn't find anything (did they xray you?) and you didn't feel yourself inhale it, then I wouldn't worry too much.

[ThePhoenix]

Hey :) basically 18 years old always smiling etc until I started having anxiety attacks a year ago that I try to hide. They can be anytime but recently I have had alot of stress. I tried to complete my a levels with anxiety attacks going on and therefore got dissapointing grades which I recieved last month. I also got m nose pierced at this time and was putting the back on and it was up my nose not attached to the piercing I tried to get it out and did not feel myself inhale it or feel it fall out. I went to the walk in centre and got them to have a look after having a panic attack about it and they said there was nothing there however since then I have been constantly on the internet reading about how serious it could be if it's in my body and I'm sure you can all understand as anxiety sufferers the thought of something that you cannot see is the worst thing for us. Also meant to be attending university next week but cannot face it and my parents don;t understand why. I am thinking of booking a doctors appointment but the fear of leaving the house has anyone got any advice ?
Thankyou xxx

I understand your anxiety, it can be really hard to study when your stressed and anxious! I am struggling with Uni at the moment because I have been on an anxious run.

As for your concern, think about it logically. It must have fallen out, you couldnt inhale it because your lungs wouldnt let you. You would cough and splutter until it came out, even in the highly unlikely chance that you swallowed it it would just pass through like any other foreign thing we swallow!

In all likely hood it just fell out with out you even noticing! Honestly, never worry about it again because it wont affect you!

[rhirhi18]

Thankyou for the replies , I went to the Doctor yesterday and explained my anxiety and spoke about the nose piercing which I am sure that it went up my nose the doctor said not to worry and that if will have gone to my stomach and be working it's way out when I asked him if I needed lung xrays he said no but I'm thinking of going on Monday and explaining to him that my mind will not be put at rest until I have these what do you think?

Rhianna

[forwells]

doctor said not to worry and that if will have gone to my stomach and be working it's way out when I asked him if I needed lung xrays he said no but I'm thinking of going on Monday and explaining to him that my mind will not be put at rest until I have these what do you think?

Howdy
I would like to give you a tip . As hard as you might think it is to face this now and let it go getting a xray will not fix it because you will move on to the next thing . For example you will then start to question if they missed something on the xray or if the did it right .

As the doctor said you are fine and if you learn to distract yourself from thinking about it it will fade away by itself
cheer kev :D

[ThePhoenix]

Kev is right, it won't help you relax because you will still question the diagnosis. It won't have got into your lungs, you would have known about it instantly!

Forget about it! :)

[rhirhi18]

Hi thankyou for your replies I do want to forget about it but I do know that it did go up my nose because I felt it come down either into my stomach or wherever. I totally agree with you that I am probably going to move onto the next thing but right now I can't see how I can move past this without going to get x rays because it is ruling my life :(

I haven;t been leaving the house etc

x

[forwells]

Howdy

Look i think that you should get that xray if you believe it will settle things . But it will only solve this problem unless you can accept the out come of that xray .

i am not being rude here as i know what you are thinking as i have been there .

Now what you are talking about is a little piece of metal . What about 1/4 inch . Now your anxiety is bluffing you into believing that to swallow that would be a bad outcome .

But you swallow things like this every day . Take a piece of corn it gos in one end the same way it comes out the other . Then there is the pill with the camera that you can take and it just comes out the other end the same as it went in .

As for it going into your lungs well sorry again but that is just silly and your anxiety feeding you BS . If that was the cause then just think of all the things you have eating that could have happened the same .

Hmm not sure what else i can say . What really worries you about it , what have you read that has planted something in your mind that this is a problem .

Also get yourself out of the house . No matter how bad it feels because if you dont it will build , If you have to call someone and go for a walk with them then do it .

cheers kev
:D

[rhirhi18]

Thanks for the advice Kev, I know what you mean I don't think the x rays would help because I would think they had done it wrong or that it was somewhere else. I would be interested to know your story as you seem to know what your talking about :) yep a little piece of metal that is feeding my anxiety even though I know its irrational which makes it more annoying I went out yesterday and felt a bit better but when I am on my own I dwell on it I would probably feel this way without this incident tbh.I as most people got myself wound up about this incident by reading articles on the interent even though I know anyone can write anything but everything just was fueling my anxiety. Any further advice would be appreciated.

Rhi :)

[forwells]

HOwdy Rhi :D

My story is long but pretty easy . I got there because of stress from life and i have never been a worrier but was placed on drugs which bought out huge worries. I was lucky because it had not become ingrained so i could see it and went on to research everything i could to make sure that i could change the effect that those drugs had on me.

Ok heres a tip and a good one .

When you have a problem and there will be many as you recover . Stop, think and write .

Stop yourself from worrying about it and sit and think about what it is that is worrying you .Write it down and then brake it down until you see how unlogical your thinking is . For example would be as i said in the last post . When we get anxious we seem to skip this part and go from something that is bothering us to just plan panic about things . Sit down and brake it up into smaller things .

I had a problem with driving and what i think would worry me is that i felt unsafe . Unsafe that something would happen when i was a long way form home . Say i had to do a 150 klm trip i would look at it saying that i was so far from home what would happen if something went wrong . So i thought about it and said well its 150klms which is correct but there are many towns in between that i could get help if needed and i also have my phone and i could also stop someone and ask for help if needed . Once i broke this problem down it became so much smaller and so much easier to deal with . That 150 klms then became maybe 20klms or 10 minutes drive . This made it so much easier to deal with and then as time went on with this new mind set it started to get easier and easier .


I went out yesterday and felt a bit better but when I am on my own I dwell on it I would probably feel this way without this incident Well done don't let it keep you in :P . You know i have always been a loner , i like my own company but when my anxiety was bad i wanted someone to be around me at all times . Try and pick when you are starting to dwell on things and force yourself to get up and do something . Anything i once went outside and broke clay up in the garden with my hands just so i was doing something . You must learn to do this so you don't dwell .Dwell just makes our problems so much better . If you don't have someone to talk to then start a book and write it down , it will help also .

cheers kev

[rhirhi18]

Hey :)

I have also had that worry on holidays where I have been worried away from home I will try and write and break everything down.

i find that I do want someone around me at all times which I always used to be like anyway but I find that I act differently around them and don't want them to know I've changed because I was always the one that was positive but for instance tonight is my friends birthday and its a meal with lots of people and then clubbing which I just dont't feel up to but I just made up an excuse.
I am going to start a book :)
so I've just got back from shopping with my sister and the whole time my chest felt tight and I was short of breath and I decided that this was my lungs again even though I was distracting myself by shopping so it's been a bit of a bad day :(

Rhi :)

[forwells]

Hi Rhi

I am going to start a book

This works on another level also. In weeks and months to come you can read back on it and see all the things that have gone and no longer around . Dont read it every day but go back once a fortnight or so . We seem to forget how far we have come and focus on how bad we might still be .


so I've just got back from shopping with my sister and the whole time my chest felt tight and I was short of breath and I decided that this was my lungs again even though I was distracting myself by shopping so it's been a bit of a bad day Sad

Dont worry you will get there . Just let it past the best you can and everyone gets bad days .

http://www.anxietyforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7784

I wrote this a while ago , have a read and it might help you

cheers kev :D

[rhirhi18]

today has been a bad day I have been sitting dwelling on the fact that I would not be in this state if I didn't get my nose pierced therefore going round and round in my head bout turning back time silly I know as I wanted it at the time and I had anxiety before this but this is just the focus I know how silly it is as you said a tiny piece of metal but I can't help thinking worse case scenario this is so much harder than i wud think x

[rhirhi18]

please someone help I am driving myself insane going to book a doctors appointment for thursday

[forwells]

Howdy again

Ok so how can i help you .

Start writing down what you are think . Just start and write everything you are thinking . It helps to let it out .

What is it that is worrying you . Can you pick something . It looks like it is just the way you are feeling that is causing you problems more than one thing .

Have you tried deep breathing and also have you tried meditation . They both will help you long term .

As for now just remember that it will pass you just have to ride it out without fearing it , You are not going to lose your mind and it will not hurt you .

cheers kev
I should be around for next 12 hours or so

[rhirhi18]

atm I am going over and over in my head how i shudn'y have got my nose pierced and now I am going to die because of it going over and over how I have now taken it out so I did it for no reason just blaming myself over and over again wanting to go back and tell myself not to :(:(:(:(
seriously cannot deal with this

[forwells]

Howdy again

Ok this is only your anxiety trying to bluff you

Remember you need to brake it down so that you can see what your anxiety is trying to get you to believe is not true . It is only that your stress is so high that it is focusing in on what it believes is the cause
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Remember logical thinking

You got your nose pierced - So that's not a big deal 1000s of people before me have had it done and at worst you may get a little infection .

You have got it done and no amount of thinking about why or how or what if i haven't is going to change that . There is nothing you can to do go back and not get it done so there is no point thinking about it .

The main problem is you are scared that you may have lost the backing and this is now in your body .

The chances of this are very slim . I will be gross here but have you ever had a big boogie and sniffed your nose and you swallow it . You remember that right . So if you had sucked the backing in you would also remember this right .

Ok now your thinking oh but i might have missed it . Well you might of but i doubt that . But as i said before it is a tiny little things and it would have passed right throw with no problems . It is so small that in any one mouth full of food we eat you most likely have many more things that size that past throw without a problem . Grains , corns , even kids with money . All this comes out the other end .

When you focus on this stop dwelling on it .
Try and relax , Google meditation and try some . All you do is close your eyes and focus on the sounds and not the thoughts in your head , Just let the thoughts pass though untouched . Try youtube for some tracks . Also deep belly breathing . 6 Deep ones in and 6 dep ones out ever minute . Do this every time you feel it building and also a few times though out the day when you don't . This slows the body and the body will not stress when it is calm .

Next once you calm down right a list of how you are thinking . Now right a list on everything to do with this backing plate . Every thing that is correct , not what your anxiety is telling you.

For example . Its small , I didn't swallow it , It will pass though with no problems . Think of as many as you can think of.

Now when your anxiety wants to feed you crap again then go back to this list and read it .

Do not sit there and dwell on it . Read it and say I know what you are doing to me anxiety and i know that it is not correct . These are the facts and this is what i believe . Then get up and do something . Yes you will still feel bad but the more you do the more your brain will let it go and not see it as a problem .

You can do it you just have to get it into your head that the backing is not the problem . See you do it the same as you got there. You have told yourself over and over that it is the problem . Now you believe it . So if you do the same and tell yourself over and over that it is not the problem then you will believe that in time .

Remember that brain sees no truth . It just takes our thoughts and believes then to be true . Weather they are or not .

cheers kev :D

[ThePhoenix]

Some excellent points in there Kev. Good stuff!

[rhirhi18]

great comments but honestly its about half a centimetre bit of metal but it definiteley went up my nose and I knew this at the time it was in my nose and i tried to get it out in doing so pushed the front bit of my piercing out which hurt then just took the front out too then when I put my finger back up my nose it wasnt there then i felt it come down a few hours later through my throat im honestly sure sure sure.

seriously I don't think about anything else im pushing everyone away................................

[rhirhi18]

im going to make another doctors appointment on friday just to have a chat bout things to people thing doctors or councilling would be better for me knowing my story

[ThePhoenix]

great comments but honestly its about half a centimetre bit of metal but it definiteley went up my nose and I knew this at the time it was in my nose and i tried to get it out in doing so pushed the front bit of my piercing out which hurt then just took the front out too then when I put my finger back up my nose it wasnt there then i felt it come down a few hours later through my throat im honestly sure sure sure.

seriously I don't think about anything else im pushing everyone away................................

Are you sure sure or just think your sure? I ask because anxiety has made me doubt all sorts of things, I start to think maybe something happened or maybe that wasnt there before and you can drive yourself crazy!

[rhirhi18]

i think im sure it was the tiniest thing and the doctor sed it wud just be in my stomach but u no this is like the worst thing for my anxiety :(:(:(:(:(x

[Terror-x]

it seems to me that you are doing well to try and controle your anxeity rhy i think that each person has there own way of trying to controle it and overcome it :)

[rhirhi18]

i literaly feel like my life is not going to move on from this.:(

[rhirhi18]

I went to the doctors and they just think im saying bout the metal because of my anxiety but it defo happened arghhhhhhhh this is never gonna get sorteed :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:((

[Paul Dooley]

Hi, I'd say the worry you have about your piercing is just a result of high anxiety. If you've been seen by a doctor, especially if you've gone more than once, then I think you should focus on resolving your anxiety.

Have you talked to a doctor about medication? Have you tried therapy yet? If not then you should consider both. Otherwise this will continue.

The other thing is that you should try to avoid reading about diseases, etc online. This is a great way to increase anxiety, plus it doesn't help, at all.

Hope that helps.

[rhirhi18]

Hi So i went yesterday and got given a prescription for some tablets to calm me down he also reassured me that by now I would no if it was going to give me any trouble he said that I would either have an infection on my face from it being stuck in my nose or would have had an infection in my lung that I would know about he said it will have already 'gone through the motions' and the size of it it would pass with no problems so I am now goin gto focus on my anxiety

[rhirhi18]

so I am still dwelling on this I know that I need to distract myself and stop thinking what if if I am going to get passed this but easier said then done... I really hope time will be a healer.........

[rhirhi18]

im wasting my life :( even my bf can't deal with me anymroe I miss the smiley person i used to be

[forwells]

Hi rhirhi18

You still around . How are you feeling ??

[rhirhi18]

Hey I am feeeling better I am having ups and downs sometimes I feel fine then I feel like there is no way out but I am working on it howa you?

[forwells]

Howdy

Thats good
Just remember that up and downs are find as long as your hopping forwards

I feel ok but good do with a good sleep

cheers kev

[rhirhi18]

so I have been trying to think of the route of the problem. I have found three things. A few years ago I was on a plane and we had to have an emergency landing. The first anxiety attack I think I had was on a plane obviously I was unaware that this was what this was at the time but I think that it was. So summer couple of years ago when I was doing my GCSE'S two friends from my year died within two months of eachother unexpectedly unconnected. I don't think I have ever properly dealt with this and therefore messed up my a levels meanwhile trying to do everything to be perfect for my parents because I find it imposible to tell them ive done something wrong because in their eyes im the youngest perfect one do you think any of this contributed?

[rhirhi18]

anyone have any advice at all?

[forwells]

Howdy again

First off i think that there could be some things there you need to deal with but dont go looking for them because the past is not that important . It is more about the way we feel now and were we want to go .

I think that you should talk to your parents because maybe they dont know what you feel and they cant change that untill they know . There is very few parents on earth that would not do anything to make their kids happy.

You do sound like you are under some stress there so maybe take a step back and think about how you can change it .

cheers kev :D

[rhirhi18]

god im back to stressing bout my nose piercing ive cancelled on my bf this eve :(:(:(

[rhirhi18]

right okay so any advice I was ont he train in London today and actualli broke down in tears thinking that my life is over cus of this bit of metal that is in my body can;t see a way out what on earth do i do i feel like im in living hell

[rhirhi18]

wow i am having the worst panic attack :( :(

[rhirhi18]

hey jt to update had a blood test today went to see the doctor who prescribed me propanalol and am seeing a councillor on monday

[forwells]

Howdy

Thats good I hope it all goes well . The beta blockers should help with the physical problem .

cheers kev