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Ponder
06-20-2016, 10:51 PM
Moving on ... now where was I?

Ponder
06-20-2016, 11:02 PM
Interesting group today. Had a good walk this morning. It was good to break up the routine of jogging. I've been more focusing on clean eating and doing well with that. I think I will now go for another walk to catch some rays. Aiming at routine has been working. For a while there I was spreading myself too thin. Will have to fine tune the website and work on upcoming proposal. Have set boundaries with new friendship and told some of the kids to ease up with the amount of reliance on me.

All in all - we adjusted ... well caught I should say. Was almost heading for a spiral.

Ponder
06-21-2016, 02:44 AM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzz Early night tonight - Last ep of Game of Thrones was pretty awesome. Here's to a good day of clean eating, pain free exercise and some time to myself!

Ponder
06-21-2016, 02:54 AM
PM sent Dahila - I know you will know anyways ... but its just that way I am. Here's to writing the way I used to. :) - I just need to find more space like I used to have.

Dahila
06-21-2016, 07:03 AM
New thread, new day, new adventures. Of course I do understand, pm send. Just forgive me the grammar mistakes, I must tell you that I am struggling with change of diet. I do not eat bread, but got some proteins and try to drink it in the morning so my blood sugar is not low. With cutting down the carbs, medication, I am have it jump up and down. Eh aging is not fun. Let's see how it goes. At least no one needs me anymore, My DD cut me off and I have not contact with her or my grandchild. It hurts but I think this is what she needs to do to feel good. Punish me somehow, for something.......... ok
Let's see how it goes.
Brand new shiny thread:)

Ponder
06-21-2016, 03:46 PM
I know how that can feel Dahila. It sure can hurt when our kids cut off us like that. It's worse when they let you back in, then cut you off, then let you in, then cut you off and so on and on. My mother still stalks me in this forum and then contacts my daughter if I let on with too much of what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyways - with our own kids ... yea, I know what you mean. My daughter does it often when she can't get her own way. We often help so often that they don't know how to look after themselves. I don't blame parents being like that in such a sick, toxic and corrupt world. Sadly, we must let them go for periods even if it means that they start sinking. It's actually a good example of what many spiritual teachings highlight with regard to endurance and growth. I could of just said suffering, but it's not as simple as that.

Forgive me if too forward, but I would like to mention by saying your mention elsewhere about life not getting any easier is on par with my own outlook. I would only add that my angle on suffering is in acceptance and then minimizing pain. At least when I cut my own mother out (you know part of the story on that) I have kept that tie severed and intend to leave it at that. However learning to be there for our kids from the start and always until the end no matter their own methods of copping ... that is the best I can offer with regards to enduring what flack comes from their end. I know I must withdraw support at various times in order for my daughter to grow. If I do it the right way, I should not have to worry as much as I do. : ) ... for they will be there in the end.

Your Daughter will know that you are there when the times counts. That's much better than many others have ever had. Then you get those who are there, but not really at all. So many people have "conditions" ... especially those religious types. You know the score on that count ... then there are the others who are just wrapped up in their own ideals, money, status and all that other BS they cling to until their death.

Thankfully we are not like that ... you and I - I sincerely hope your situation is just like a light switch ... because now that I think about it ... it's not so bad to be able to endure the off and on connections when at the end of it, they know we are always there ... PLUS - we actually get to have some kind of life with our grand kids, whilst the selfish ones do not. They miss out on any kind of relationship - the best they end up with is a pet. Although in saying that, I mean no disrespect to our animal friends ... just meaning the nature of things is all. Those idealist types tend to treat animals better than there own kin. That is pretty much the nature of my upbringing ... but that you already know.

Hey - this is awesome ... we are talking like that of old. AGE - pfffft ... don't worry about that shit Dahila. Let's hang in there hey ... we will make this life about learning how to die a proper death. You know ... it's often said it takes a life time to learn such things. :) ... One can understand such a perception when you realize just how brainwashed out species really is. The biggest addiction of all is FOOD ... I am really pleased that your making some in roads with making such decisions yourself.

Thanks heaps for you PM ... I am feeling much much better now. It's awesome that we are both still plodding along a couple of years and so many thousands of posts later. Fuck what anyone else thinks ... I like your grandma style with the others and also your being a good online friend. The shallow BS in here gets a bit much at times, but as long as I keep making my space in places like this and your always able to pop in from time to time ... I'm always happy to keep plugging away.

I do hope John is alright? Do you know much about what Jesse is doing? Thanks for filling me in with our other friend. Much appreciated.

I think I will go to the gym now ... you really have got me in a good space. :) ... I may later touch on my own gains re eating clean. I'd like to inspire you - but not preach. I know you understand how I talk to myself as a means to drive myself ... the others I am not sure understand that part of me so much as it's been a while since I have let rip with my usual freestyle posts ... or at least one after the other like I used too.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm ... I think that's enough therapy for the day.

When I return I talk more about my new goals ... the people I have actually had to drop and other factors I have employed to regain control of my space. I have also decided to leave the men's group as well ... I talk more on that too.

We catch up later and I understand that you will not always be able to pop in from day to day ... so more so I am very pleased you have been able to do as you do.

Thanks Dahila ... ;)

We'll see our grand kids soon enough, which is more than I can say for others.
Adios. ;)

Dahila
06-21-2016, 07:31 PM
Hi thank you so much, now I feel much better. I am not worry so much on aging but the cope mechanism is not so good anymore. I'd let go a lot. A lot. People picture me here as a bitch, well if they do , good luck to them. I do not care.
well we know each other almost three years. Jesse does remark to my postings on my business page so I know he is ok. Sometimes he makes some jokes on Pam's timeline and it shows me. I picture him in a new relationship , so maybe I am right and he is happy. John is struggling with no smoking and good for him. He will find us, I am sure.....
I am getting upset for the medical advice others' give to newcomers. What the heck is happening? They read sh**t on Dr. Google and are the experts. There is a woman and she pisses me off, the walking dictionary of the meds......
I said before, my test results did not come so good , this is why I need to go of gabapentin, it causes massive weight problem. I am eating all right I think, my rabbit diet, my romaine lettuce is so crunchy hmmmmmmm
Bitter and sweet. I have hard time to wait for my Krim heritage tomato, which is almost black when ripe but it is as sweet as a candy:)
Oh I like the smell and the shine here:)) I hope you will have a great walk

Ponder
06-21-2016, 07:54 PM
I share this new trick that's working really well for me. It's called the:

80% Full Tip. :)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7393/27751609481_99087dcbc5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JhjfDx)

I've been doing really well in eating the right kinds of foods and at the right times. My next challenge has been learning to know when I am 80% full. Here is a link to a blog post that explains it's origins well: The Okinawan Diet Rules (http://zenhabits.net/the-two-okinawan-diet-rules-or-how-im-getting-leaner-during-the-holidays/)

What I can share is the importance of first being able to listen and feel your body. It's hard enough to take on this challenge when you have been eating clean for some time let alone when your still eating junk. Fact is, there is no one way with all these hints and tips. You have to combine them all together with lifestyle. That's why I have taken to the statement I heard recently, "there are no chemical solutions to lifestyle related problems."

Sadly I do not have the time to delve into that as it relates to me. I can say though, that I work real hard at staying off my medications by eating and living clean. I know too well just how those chemical solutions actually created the host of other issues that play into feeding the machine that keeps the economy going. Humans have become nothing more than consumers with short and painful life spans. But I rant on about that in another post.

How to break out of the matrix and maintain a healthy life whilst living in a toxic world is more important than getting more toxic on fear campaigns also used to make a $. Instead of worrying about the future of food, I am too busy learning to pick the best of whats currently available and within my means.

Yea - so how the hell does one go from eating all that sweet wheat and savory fatty meats - to knowing when the hell one is 80% full? Only bu giving up all the sugar and fatty foods point blank and living clean for at least 6 to 12 months.

Like when I gave up smoking ... despising that fact that the system sells such poison and developing a passion of dissatisfaction in oneself for ever having been stupid enough for being such an addict on food for as long as one has been → really helps to set the intent to give all that shit up!!! I tried many soft approaches and none worked ... possibly because I am an all or nothing guy. If I ever messed around with "Oh well ... I'll just cut this or that down ..." I always failed. To cut back on poison, (that's exactly what sugar and salt is - at least the way we now eat it in this modern age) - I would instead cut out completely one of the many poisons and know that I was then truly happy with the term cutting back.

That's what worked for me. - I'll have to see how I go with the 80% full tip, now that I can finally feel my body as opposed to only ever eating those burgers and fries till they were all gone. ;)

Best wishes with your own attempts with whatever systems you come up with Dahila. I find it's mostly in our minds - how we come to make the decision and knowing when to stop bullshitting ourselves. :)

Ponder
06-21-2016, 08:57 PM
Apologies Dahila, I missed your last post - on the run at the moment but will catch up. Thanks for those updates. Much appreciated. You Rock! ;)

Ponder
06-21-2016, 11:43 PM
I hear ya - I prefer to think of you as Queen Dahila :) - I agree the information given in the medication forum is quite ill informed. Much of it based on "popularity" and of course the lingo seems to excite others as much as a kid at a candy store. For many it is all they know - bit like how we find it hard to let go of our stories, labels, certified diagnosis's and like wise BS. They are addicted to the feeling they have only ever known. The easy way out. The easy way out is always presented in a very tasteful light. I think we should just let the queen of that subsection do her damage. Those that beg the questions will cop out, learn the hard way and ultimately end up in the medical system with a host of ailments. It will be a painful affair once their body begins to reject the doses and they succumb to those side effects that before was not such an issue. Obesity is claiming many lives and results in a lot of suffering which requires more meds.

Regarding your own issue with the extra meds to a like wise affair, you at least have the knowledge of how such works. It's all about minimizing the damage through watching how we eat and live.

That tomato sounds awesome :) I have to watch my acid levels with such fruits, thus usual pay extra for the Roma. (having said that though - black fruit and veg I have read ... are better for our kidneys - so I read - the only way I can be sure it to eat over a period of time on a clean diet and judge for myself)

Yea - I like my rabit diet atm. - did I say I am trialing coconut oil in my herbal teas? So far so good.

I had a good walk thanks :)

Ponder
06-22-2016, 01:20 AM
More info on the Eat till your 80% full technique can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIOjAYGiSko
Unfortunately his blog links don't work for me. Interesting stuff.

Dahila
06-22-2016, 05:25 AM
oh interesting will watch it later , it is so early now that my partner sleeps.. Honestly I need to wake up to. We have a diet in Poland which is simple. Eat half , it means cutting the portion in half

Dahila
06-22-2016, 05:36 AM
You are so right in above, it's mind blowing. I could say I do eat clean, just too much. Right now I have veggies like kale and lettuce, soon should be some, beets and carrots this year. Dill my favorite herb, oregano, basil, it gives a lot of flavor to salads. Have I told you that my partner refused to eat like I do? So I am still shopping for processed meats, bacon and such for him. It is like quitting smoking not to eat it. In short time , my addiction to food will go down with urges. I am sure. I use coconut for frying, which does not exist in my diet, I do not like greasy, I use avocado oil in my salads. Some feta cheese, pepper, a tiny bit of salt and avocado oil. Instead of taking smaller dishes I should use the regular one with a half of portion. It makes sense. Do you eat fruit? I have one apple and one orange a day.

Ponder
06-22-2016, 01:22 PM
It's can be hard when living with others not so in tune, however that too is as much a cop out (I think of my old self here) as blaming the labels on either ourselves or the products. Once again, there is always a choice and it's as simple as accepting the healthy one may often require tackling the urges early on in order to beat the odds to which this system we now live in has either or either not inadvertently pitched against us.

Yea - I often ponder on those who consider themselves above "drug addicts" whom themselves live such toxic lives. Such is the state of just how blind, and easily led our society has become. Having said that though, I am over the fear mongering with the future of food, chemtrails and any of all such depressing outlooks. It is was it is and whilst that perspective can seem as much a cop out as the rest - the way I hold it is not so much because I've been teaching myself to simply make the best choice within my means, withing my time. TIME - lol ... need I go on about making space in a shrinking world. A topic I have expressed many times. So to another factor that is no so much within our control, yet how we react within a system bent on control - is. Sigh ........ Kind of gives a sense to just give in, which in itself is quite the solution rather than taking the pills. That be a paradox in itself or sound conflicting as giving in sounds just so oh easy when really it's anything but not. It's as much a concentrated effort and disciple as meditation and or learning to be mindful in all we do. Such requires quality space not filled with so many tempestuous distractions that this world constantly uses to do what it does. In that way, I say it is what it is. Such is the context of acceptance and moving on to make the best choice one can make within a reality that we choose to exist.

Sigh.
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Getting ready for this pitch to Rotary Dahila - The PEERHAPS project Lisa and I started. I'm pretty sure I mentioned we got charity status out of the way. In fact most of the business side is about tied up. We are hoping to acquire office space to do our work out of. That's about as much funding we are aiming for from this mob today. It's a breakfast function with about 30 to 40 people - 6:30am. I have not slept that well, but my fitness level will be enough to get me through and I have the support of a stand in speaker. Lisa is not going. Too many nerves and not as fit. :)

I think I will make this a wrap and go for a walk.
Peace Out.
Dave.

Edit A big yes to fruits - I aim for soft watery ones most of the time - but love banana too. :)

Ponder
06-22-2016, 01:30 PM
I got to say, I'm tethering with this next step I'm about to take. Hmmmmm - something nutritious in my tummy and I go for that walk. - Wish me luck ;)

Dahila
06-22-2016, 04:36 PM
Good luck, but I am not sure you needed, you will make a beautiful appearance. I bet you are going to be a success. I hope the project will develop.

Kirk
06-22-2016, 07:59 PM
An actress once said, aging is not for wimps.

Kirk
06-22-2016, 08:01 PM
I will be 60 this year and I remember when I turned 50, I had a mini-meltdown. It was hard for me and I shall see how I deal with turning 60 in September.

Ponder
06-22-2016, 10:05 PM
Looks like this guy is not going to leave me alone. I'll just stick with PM Dahila. I leave yet another thread to this kirk character.

Anne1221
06-23-2016, 03:31 AM
Kirk, let me be the first to wish you a Happy 60th birthday! I think as we all grow older, we grow wiser. We certainly learn new and better ways to deal with our anxiety.

Kirk
06-23-2016, 06:04 AM
Thank you for the well wishes. At least I still have all of my hair.

Kirk
06-23-2016, 06:16 AM
As I have aged, certain things that used to bother me, don't anymore.

Ponder
06-23-2016, 12:46 PM
Yep...definitely trolls.

Kirk
06-23-2016, 01:57 PM
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