Quote Originally Posted by dazza View Post
Its all about BELIEF & hope. Mans best friend i guess... but the trouble is man doesnt believe in himself... so he turns to this fictional comfort thing called god.
Believe what you like, that's fine with me.
But let me ask you:
if it's fictional.. Where is the evidence that God doesn't exist...?
I can say the same thing as atheism: There is more "evidence" that atheism is more fictional than most world wide religions.
If you look at the science behind evolution.. it isn't there! Not at ALL!
There are SO many missing links
And the universe coming from a non-creator would make it an infinite.
Think about the infinite clause I presented above.. It is NOT possible.
So maybe that doesn't mean that it came from a God, I can accept that
But it CERTAINLY leaves a big WTF for atheism.
We came from something that was always existent? AND we have a big bang, and constant change?
You CAN'T have that in an infinite. With an infinite, there is no repeat, there is no middle, no end and no beginning!
That means everything that is infinite would have to be 100% motionless and never to have changed one single bit! otherwise it had a start and is going through motion, so it is linear. Linear HAS to have a beginning (a creator.. call it god or call it the infinite) But it has to be a higher source than what we are presented with!
something that IS infinite, that is PERFECT that is above science

Don't argue for the sake of arguing. Nobody wins, it's not healthy and what really is the point...?

You can more than happily live your life with an atheistic view, that's fine with me.
Just because yours is different to mine, does not mean one has the right to put down the others.
I didn't put down yours until you called it fictional and were quite rude. There was no need for that.
You clearly haven't looked into Christianity OR atheism. And believe me, those who look truly into Atheism, such as Richard Dawkins are some of the most depressed, deranged and hateful people I've seen. Why? Because atheism = NO life purpose.. There can not be one! without a higher establishment, what is morals other than a set of governed rules?
Are we living to please each other?
But that can't be so when if that were the case, why are we not?

If we are living to learn something and grow. then that entails a higher being since our purpose would be going beyond ourself...

Or do we simply live to make our chemical reactions a positive one?
And really, without religion, there is no happy or sad, good or bad.. What is moral value without a moral basis? That HAD to have come from someone higher than ourself in the very beginning! I mean WHY is it bad to kill people, why do they deserve the right to live out in a chemical body...?
That goes into morals and morals are nothing more than a religious set of values we believe to uphold...

If you truly were an atheist, you'd believe 100% that you can go out and do whatever the fuck you like, and that nobody has the right to stop you, because morally you have committed no wrong. You have just been a scientist, and ended ones physical chemical composition..

But another random point

What about "Energy (Matter) can't be created nor destroyed, only changed"
We ARE energy, and science can prove that 100%..
Our mind is our biggest form of energy
Our mind is our soul
Where does that go when we die...
Let science prove that one, and then I'll go back to being an athiest.

I've lived an athiest, I've studied it in depth.. It's not for me, its very lonely sad and bitter.

And I've studied christianity. It makes sense (TO ME) and it fits with the world and answers all of my questions. So that is what I'm happy to stay with


Sorry If i seem like an asshole.
I am (at times)

I don't wish anything bad upon you
and I don't mean to be a jerk.. It just happens.

I do not think any less of you for having different beliefs to me.
You ARE my equal, and I shall do my best to treat you as one.

Good day
and
God bless