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  1. #1
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    My experiences are a forbidden topic.

    I have taken Paroxetine for over 20 years continuously. Been trying to get off it for 6 years.

    Trouble is, on every occasion I have ever in the past given an honest accont of my experiences in a forum like this its been instantly deleted.

    Seems to me noone is ever allowed o say anythin negative about some peoducts.

    Whats the point.

  2. #2
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    hi welcome to the forum, we all the time criticize meds and people, and system , nothing is deleted. Feel free to post whatever you like except insulting others)
    ''“If you cry because the sun has gone out of your life, your tears will prevent you from seeing the stars.”
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    Hi Prax - if there is one thing about this forum that really shines; it's the leeway given to free speech.

    Beyond Blue is an Australian Forum for people who suffer anxiety and depression. I find it very controlling just like the many other Government run programs dealing in like wise mental health forums. Any forum associated with an "institution" / "Agenda Based Organisations" will control and moderate every post that is made. I've been around 90% of the mental health forums out there. Believe me that this place is 10/10 when it comes to freedom of expression.

    There is only one thing to keep in mind - Like Dahila said - Just don't personally attack anyone. I've done it a few times in the past, and given the fact I am still here - I guess goes to show that this place is pretty good at handing such things.

    Swear - Cuss - Give your opinions as you feel ... Don't hold anything back. Honestly - this place is awesome when it comes to allowing people to express just how they feel.

    The only way to make something better is to first acknowledge those negative aspects that detract and or hold back.
    Not everyone need agree. What matters is how we live with what we know and see. It does feel good to get those negative feelings and mind sets of ones chest.

    SO - What's the story on this negativity that's been getting in your way?

    We would love to hear ... and please do tell just as you see it. ; )
    Last edited by Ponder; 04-15-2016 at 08:11 PM.
    "...the cost of sanity in this society is a certain level of alienation" ~ Terrance McKenna → https://pondermovedhere.blogspot.com/

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    Hey Praxitiles,

    People who experience difficulty in getting off SSRIs such as Paroxetine may succeed by switching to a similar amount of the original SSRI, Prozac, stabilising for a while; say around a couple of weeks, then reducing their dosage by 25% every two weeks.

    Otherwise they could try reducing their Paroxetine dosage by 10% weekly. Alternatively, go to http://theroadback.org and download their free Ebook.

    There is a support group at http://www.drugs.com/answers/support-group/paroxetine/ but I'm unaware as to how active it is.

    A previous post follows:

    Antidepressants/anxiolytics either don't work for, cause side effects, or lose efficacy, over time, with a considerable proportion of people; probably more than 50%. See: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...interview.aspx & http://suiciderateup.wordpress.com I suggest that you view http://your-mental-health.weebly.com/3.html about depression, then page B. Check out www.drugs.com & www.rxlist.com and wean off, in accordance with http://www.theroadback.org/workbook.htm and begin the core treatments immediately, and the herbal remedies, or OTHER supplements, like SAM-e, 5-htp, or L-phenylalanine, when below 50% weaning dosage. St. John's wort has anxiolytic, as well as antidepressant properties, so consider taking a recommended brand, along with a low dosage of 5-htp, (50 mg daily; no more!) which works quicker than the wort, and employing the core treatments shown for depression, and a relaxation method, and/or the EFT. SJW is thought to work by increasing the levels of multiple neurotransmitters moderately, rather than just boosting those of serotonin considerably, as with many antidepressants.
    At least, give the above a trial period of 3 - 6 months, after weaning off, to see if they are sufficient. If not, (which is unlikely) medications will still be available, but maintain the core treatments as complementary ones, because they treat the cause, rather than just mask symptoms.

    There are various kinds, and levels of depression, with at least 7 different causes. Different treatments may apply. Doctors and psychiatrists rely too much these days on medications, and are overly influenced by the sales reps of the drug companies, who profile them psychologically, and study their prescribing record, then provide inducements / freebies, and possibly payments to lecture, or attend lectures. Or it may be a nice meal, or a day out on the reps boat, creating feelings of indebtedness and a desire, perhaps not even consciously, to reciprocate by prescribing those brands recommended to them. See: http://drbenkim.com/articles/sick-he...are-system.htm Use the Mercola.com SEARCH BAR, about how drug company money has corrupted psychiatry, & view: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ur-doctor.aspx People who ask their doctor for a certain brand have it prescribed 70% of the time, hence the huge media campaigns - see http://www.naturalnews.com/010315_ad...s_doctors.html The feedback that I have received here is that antidepressants work, if they do, by blunting the emotions. Many users describe it as "zombification", or emotional deadness. They produce side effects in around 25% - 30% of cases, and they can sometimes (rarely) include the possibility of permanent inorgasmia, (inability to achieve orgasm: "I haven't tried zoloft, but since the very first lexapro tablet I ever took, I have never had an orgasm again. And I came off it a year ago".) or even the permanent loss of the ability for a male to achieve an erection, which is something they don't advertise.

    Although they may limit the lows, they also limit the excitement, and joys of life. That effect is far less pronounced with St. John's wort, and may be unnoticeable. Antidepressants have demonstrated increased rates of suicide, homicide, and aberrant behaviour, especially in people under the age of around 24 - 25. Note the warnings on the label/insert, or at www.drugs.com The wort carries no such risks, and side effects are rarer, generally much milder, and never permanent., so why take an unnecessary risk? I suggest that such people immediately adopt the core treatments shown, and consider using the herbal remedies, or OTHER supplements. If antidepressants are offered, say "thank you very much" and pocket the prescription, but don't fill it until giving the natural & alternative treatments a trial period of at least 3, and preferably 6 months. Antidepressants will still be available, if required, (unlikely) but it's best to avoid the risks, and side effects.
    Psychiatrist: Anti-depressants not for kids:- http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...-not-for-kids/

    "Are you aware of the risk of brain damage with the following OTC medications?
    Excedrin PM, Tylenol PM, Paxil, Unisom, Benadryl, Dramamine, Nytol, Sominex, Detrol, Demerol, and Elavil." If not, I strongly suggest that you view: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...in-damage.aspx and make an informed decision.

    My note: I strongly doubt that Demerol or Paxil would be OTC medications.

 

 

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