alcohol for anxiety

Thanks salvator! and congrats on your month + 5! I know I feel better physically, still anxious about certain things (that I would normally numb myself out w/ drink), but better.

Ponder - You're right. In my opinion, alcohol needs to be looked at the same as any other drug. It works, but there are definitely side effects.

Kirk - I think I agree with you on the vascular benefit. My grandfather was an alcoholic and lived to 86. He would have lived much longer without smoking. I know alcohol and it's blood thinning/relaxing effect is a good thing... but what the stuff does to the rest of the body... I don't think it's worth it.

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Originally Posted by Kirk

I agree with the previous posts. However, alcohol in moderation can provide cardiovascular benefits. The key is moderation.

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Respectfully, this is now regarded as pseudoscience or at least science that is now changing. "A new generation of Mendelian randomization studies challenges the conventional wisdom..." "The surprising conclusions not only question whether moderate alcohol consumption actually protects us against heart disease, it also questions the previously supposed links between moderate alcohol intake and a myriad of other diseases, including dementia, diabetes, obesity and asthma..."

1. Study: Alcohol does not have any health benefits

2. Are the benefits of moderate drinking a myth?

The answer to helping blood pump around a sedentary individual is not to introduce a poison in moderation; but to simply introduce movement on a regular basis. Convenience wins out every time in our marketed society, however epidemics in side effects are now seeing a change in the generally accepted consensus. (One example ... new taxing campaigns on Sugar being implemented in Australia) Poison in moderation only benefits those in extreme cases; not the general population. The later example is now known to be killing the majority of our population. Alcohol is no different when viewed as a poison in moderation. Whether you claim to drink it under such a fashion matters little to the damage it's still doing. These so called benefits are now more than just debatable... it's science that's now changing.

well today is my anniversary with my fiancee. I promised her i would have half a glass of wine to celebrate so wish me luck! I hope it doesnt affect me and throw me into an attack. ive drinking water all day just to make sure im properly hydrated.

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Originally Posted by salvator here

Do you know by any chance how long it takes for the neurotransmitters to return to normal functioning?

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No idea.. I'm guessing that depends on the individual. You see, my pancreas was probably susceptible to damage because my uncle is Type 1 diabetic. My brain seems to have held up well but I know a woman whose body has survived but her brain is fried.

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Originally Posted by richierich25

well today is my anniversary with my fiancee. I promised her i would have half a glass of wine to celebrate so wish me luck! I hope it doesnt affect me and throw me into an attack. ive drinking water all day just to make sure im properly hydrated.

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Good luck! There's no such thing as half a glass of wine for me ;)

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Originally Posted by Ponder

Please understand the alcohol is a poisonous substance whatever way you look at it. Just like all forms of unnatural substances/ medicines.

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I think you need to stop reading those "health" blogs for a while. Not only are you beginning to sound really preachy, but you're also off the mark. To call unnatural substances and medicines "poison" is absurd. Naturally (yes, that was a pun) you won't be able to provide any peer-reviewed evidence for your claim that everything unnatural is poison. Because there isn't any. ..

Stop believing everything you read online, just because some discredited doctor or "nutritionist" sounded convincing in the podcast. We get it, you have a chip on your shoulder and like kicking the boot into Western society whenever possible. But you're not coming across as enlightened or smarter than anybody else when you spout crap like above, you're just showing that you're suffering confirmation bias by believing something that isn't true, just because it matches your current prejudices.

And for what it's worth, there's plenty of poison in the natural world, too, so let's stop this childish game where everything natural = good, and everything man-made = bad.

I totally agree, Martin05. Thanks for bringing this up.

Not to mention alcohol comes from fermented fruits and vegetables. Opium from poppies, cocaine from coca plant, pot from marijuana etc etc. The line between "natural" and "unnatural" is very blurred and not a good way to distinguish things.

According to the Mayo clinic, no one should begin drinking alcohol just for potential health benefits and it should be avoided
in certain circumstances altogether.

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Originally Posted by martin05

I think you need to stop reading those "health" blogs for a while. Not only are you beginning to sound really preachy, but you're also off the mark. To call unnatural substances and medicines "poison" is absurd. Naturally (yes, that was a pun) you won't be able to provide any peer-reviewed evidence for your claim that everything unnatural is poison. Because there isn't any. ..

Stop believing everything you read online, just because some discredited doctor or "nutritionist" sounded convincing in the podcast. We get it, you have a chip on your shoulder and like kicking the boot into Western society whenever possible. But you're not coming across as enlightened or smarter than anybody else when you spout crap like above, you're just showing that you're suffering confirmation bias by believing something that isn't true, just because it matches your current prejudices.

And for what it's worth, there's plenty of poison in the natural world, too, so let's stop this childish game where everything natural = good, and everything man-made = bad.

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Meh ... you don't have to agree. The way I talk works well for me. As for we - just talk for yourself hey? Many of the others here know I'm not like you suggest. They read me well enough. It's just the way I deal with things. I don't personally attack. If you want to get nasty, the only one your going to piss off; is yourself. Your reaction says more about yourself than it does me.

I know I am not right on most things ... just take it with a grain of salt ... although you might want to check your sodium lvls. : ) ... anyways - Natural and unnatural ... I find it's more more in the way it is processed as well as how we take it:

We talk more soon enough.

But first let me see your reaction and gauge how toxic you really want to get?

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This is the context of medicine as poison. We give you X pill that will fix Y but then you may need to take another because of Z. I don't except you to understand given your response; but that's OK. I don't need your aproval or anyone else's. It's enough to know that we are a sick species that uses chemicals as solutions rather than seeking to live in harmony. It's no longer just about East Vs West - that card is old; nothing but a distraction. But let's not go there as you've already indicated - you have a dislike for preachers. : ) I used to as well ... but now have that under control.

I've read and done way more than you give me credit for. I actually talk from personal experience and write deeply about the things I touch on. Again ... as for "We" - you really don't know the half of it. But is OK - your still new in this here forum. Give it time. When the time is right ... there is also the ignore feature. What I have to say is not appreciated by the many because most people would rather stay ill. Is much easier that way. I am the same way - it's like living on a sinking ship. Woops ... I'm preaching again. Srry.

Keep talking - I'm happy to oblige.

Just be careful with your personal attacks - It will not bode well.

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