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Hmmm. I am not sure what you mean exactly. My problem was I had this non stop feeling of not inhaling enough air, so I would continue to breathe more in a very anxious manner which would cause a whole series of events. By relaxing and slowing and calming my breathing, I was able to slow down the panic. Also, I felt I was resetting my respiratory center of the brain to be at a calmer rate.
What has helped me is to reduce my stress levels in my life and that has honestly helped me immensely!
Wow! that's alot of stuff but all very helpful. thank you so much for writing this!
Great info man! I especially like how you describe anxiery and fear as just a Bluff, very true indeed.
Thank you this helps alot!!! :D
This is something I use:
When a fearful thought comes to mind.
Before you would react with anxiety try to force that thought out of your mind.
This time, however, say:
“That’s a fear of X. I could worry and even obsess over that but this time I’m going to do something different.
I’m not going to react to it. I’m also not going to try and stop it either. I’m just going to label the thought and not react.”
Then the thought comes again with more intensity and possibly with new ‘scary’ angles you never considered.
When this happens you do exactly the same. As if you were observing a cloud passing overhead, you simply
-Observe it,
-Label it e.g (this is a fear of crowds)
-Watch it as it passes by with no judgment.
then
-Continue your attention on to what you were doing.
Observe, Label, Watch, Continue
If you are a more indoors type of person then instead of thinking of the thoughts like clouds passing in the sky, you might try imagining a large cinema screen and the anxious thoughts are projected out onto the screen in front of you. Play around with this approach. Find what works for you.
Is anyone meditation regularly three times per day for 10-15- minutes? Results? I am looking around to find my relaxation technique.
I wish it was this easy.simply follow these steps and be cured. I've tried the majority of these through out my 11 year anxiety battle. Still pushin and fighting each and every day. If I never got properly tested how do I know there is not something wrong with me my issue usually result from.acid reflux.. and once they start .... Is over.
This is really helpful. Thank you so much.
I have here in my computer a copy of "Pass Through Panic" by Claire Weeks and so far it has done wonders for me. If anyone is interested in having the files, PM me and I can send you the link. It's a 222MB file.
Would you be able to post the link here?. I'm new an cannot dm you yet. Just wondering. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by amneasy
I sent you a PM with the link. If I post here I'm pretty sure it will be deleted. Hope it helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by panicfrank
I have taken a few of these supplements. I have to agree with Melatonin sometimes I have to take them to try to get enough sleep so that I can be able to go to work because I work overnight and have a day job. The thing about Melatonin I have to take at least 2 and it put me to sleep but it just don't let me sleep longer than what I want to and waking up woo I do feel like crap to where i just stop taking them and just started drinking so that I would be able to get some sleep.
With fish oil I have taken them before but never felt any results from them so I never took them again.
Excellent post ! Remember to take the thoughts captive and intercept them right when they start.
For example ... you get dizzy. A typical anxiety response to this would be "oh no" , what is going on. Then from there it spins out of control. "will I pass out?" "Am I having a stroke." " I better check my pulse" "Where is the blood pressure cuff" "I am panicking"
So one physical symptom of thought become a full blown panic attack.
I got news for you. You won't pass out. You aren't having a stroke. If your pulse is a little high then so what. Don't bother checking your blood pressure because there is nothing wrong with you.
Have you passed out before when you were dizzy ? Did you have a stroke the last time you were dizzy? Did any change in your pulse or blood pressure really matter anyway ?
When our nervous system and negative thought patterns are on overdrive, the thoughts dealing with anxiety and physical sensations will continue. You have to take the thought captive immediately. You have to tell yourself how ridiculous it is and how there is nothing to be alarmed about. Then you have to redirect your thoughts to something else or someone else.
Get your thoughts off of you. Get them off of yourself and your feelings. If you want to spend some time on yourself then post on this board once a day, see a counselor weekly or as often as you want, or confide in a family member or friend. But these conversations need to be limited and not go on for too long because then you get all wrapped up in it again. You have to redirect. Get your mind off of your anxiety and symptoms. Get the thoughts off of yourself and your body.
I have news for you! Anxiety is not going to kill you. All of the plethera of symtoms that come with it won't kill you. It is not that strong. It sure can feel like it sometimes, but it won't. Don't give it more power then it deserves. I just think of it as a short in a wire. You need to cut the wire and rewire it.
In regards to your thoughts once again, you need to take all negative thoughts captive. All negative thoughts. Not just those related to your symptoms and anxiety. For some people a lifetime of negative thinking has contributed to what is now an anxiety disorder.
It is hard. Very hard. You may have hundreds of thoughts a day to intercept and take captive and replace. I also recommend that you find a relaxing hobby and exercise. Try to find a hobby you are passionate about where you can take your mind and replace those negative, anxious thoughts.
Great post. I'm getting there, but it's taken me 4 years. :) It's a day to day process and a goal I WILL reach. :)
Thank you for the insightful advice. I hope to be cured from this darn anxiety
To amneasy : Can i get a link too. It would be most helpful :) thank you..
Great read and a lot to absorb. Wish I had the nerve to find a forum like this sooner. I was always embarrassed.
Can u please pm me the link? Thanks!
Can you please pm me the link? Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by healed
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for sharing this, make me feel positive that I can overcome this! By the way when you took all of them tablets did you take them all together at the same time as I don't want to reduce the effects of them if that makes sense. :) and thanks again
Hi Kieran. Sometimes I'd take them together, separate, and sometimes I'd take this supplement and not this supplement. I think I will post a Supplement thread. After it's all said and done I recommend this:
All at the same time 2 times a day:
Passion Flower Extract. 2- 350 mg pills- 2 times a day
Eastern Easentials Calm and Relaxed Formula- 6 pills 2 times a day
Pharma Gaba- 2 capsules 2 times a day
Suntheanine. 1 150 mg capsule 2 times a day
Before sleep take 2 more Passionflower Extracts pills with 2 cups of chamomile tea. 2 tea bags, use the tea bags twice for a total of 2 cups.
DO NOT TAKE B VITAMINS OR CALCIUM SUPPLEMENTS until Anxiety is over.
Take Milk Thistle Extract- 1 250 mg pill 2 times daily
1 scoop a day of this incredible green drink.
http://www.iherb.com/Paradise-Herbs-...oz-182-g/12309
2000-5000 mg Vitamin D3.
400 mg of Magnesium Glycinate 2 times daily
I'll post links for these in another thread.
I never thought of it that way please pm this. I'm new here. Ty in advance
Hi. Can you explain what you mean?Quote:
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Please send file for panic attack and anxietyQuote:
Originally Posted by amneasy
Thank you
PanicCured, I wish more people had this mindset. People need to know that it is possible to correct these symptoms that cripple so many of us. It takes work, but it is all about retraining your body and mind.
What did you think of Panic Puzzle? Did it help??
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Originally Posted by amneasy
Can you please send it to me?
How do you pm on here. I would like the file too:)
You guys can find anything about Dr Claire Weekes just by a Google search. This woman saved me from myself. I bought her books through Amazon. I can say that I had to put the book down at one point because how she described exactly and I mean exactly how I was feeling and it was such an amazing feeling to know that I was not alone.. Such a selfless person and I wish to this day I can thank her face to face for what she has done for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by abbyholmess
thank you!
Could I have a copy of the link as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by amneasy
Thanks
Hi
Can anyone send me the link to this? I cant seem to PM people at the moment.
Thanks
Hi Panic Cured,
How long was your acupuncture treatment before you noticed a difference?
Thanks
Hi Paniccured,
thanks for all the info, this seems very helpful :)
My pleasure!
For me, acupuncture wasn't key in my healing. It is great medicine, but I started getting it way later on when I was almost better. I don't know if it helped or not, but it is healthy and does help a lot of people. I just did every technique I could get my hands on and just attacked anxiety like I was going to war. That is the most important thing. You are totally determined and you just do all that you can every day and keep moving forward, and then the right stuff comes in your path. Definitely the herbs and supplements I listed in the Suplements Thread are great, Buteyko breathing was a huge help for me, and really forcing myself to change bad habits and bad thinking patterns. Regular yoga was great. I never had a panic attack in yoga class and it kept me healthy and released muscle tension because when you're anxious you are all tense. There was also this thing I did called Alpha-Stim. I rented this device from some website online for 1 month. I first went to this Naturaopathic doctor who hooked me up to a big one. Then I ordered a small one for 1 month. You put these clips on your ear and it sends alpha waves to your brain. It doesn't hurt or anything. I did this about 20 minutes a day. I noticed progress from day 1 to 30 days. This was towards the end of my healing and I recommend it. Eastern Essentials Calm and Relaxed formula is a great way to help heal the sensitized nervous system too.
The best thing is to know you will be healed and to do whatever it takes to get to that goal. Being miserable with others having a pity party and just being in fetal position in your bed complaining how your life sucks, doesn't get you anywhere. And just know panic attacks and all these dumb anxiety symptoms feel incredibly weird, but they can't hurt you so just let them be and wash over you. Don't expect a doctor to cure you either, unless you have a diagnosed physical problem. I didn't list everything here, but this is some of the things you can do.
Onwards and upwards!
Thanks for all your advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanicCured
Based on this I've:
1) Quit drinking, 4 days in. Was a heavy self medicator.
2) Had a first session of acupuncture, next one on Thursday
3) booked some yoga classes with my other half
4) drinking chamomile by the bucket load at the mo
Next I'm going to read some Claire Weekes books, research the breathing technique and order some kava kava.
Time to put this horrible ordeal which has ruled me most of my life to bed.
Anyone has any success with hypnotherapy?
Could you tell me abit more about the alpha stim? Please sounds very goodQuote:
Originally Posted by PanicCured
If you are going to an acupuncturist and he/she also is an herbalist, have the acupuncturist make you a custom herbal formula that you can take. This will treat you at a very deep level specifically for you.
I did hypnotherapy for panic attacks MP3s. I cant remember what it was called. See if you can find one online by a certified and qualified hypnotherapist. I would lay down and put on the headphones and follow the CD. Look for one specifically made for anxiety or panic. I also was doing a Buteyko breathing method CD. Patrick McKeown's book Anxiety Free came with an MP3 download. Breathing was big for me, because I was always trying to breathe more because I felt I couldn't breathe. I felt I was going to die or pass out so I would breathe more to get air into me. Then I learned how to breathe less and it was a huge milestone. I knew that breathing more actually created less oxygen.
There was yoga at my gym, and at the time it was hard for me to do cardio or weights, but yoga I was always able to do. I mean, sometimes the class was hard, and I couldn't do everything, but yoga you go at your own pace anyway. All that matters is you feel it internally. But the environment of a yoga class is so positive and healing. I was pretty agoraphobic, so sometimes I would jog in place inside my home, or just jog around my small one bedroom apartment. Jumping jacks and stuff like that. You have to get the blood circulating and move. When your anxious you are tense. You are probably tense right now. At one time I was doing yoga 2-3 times a week. I even ended up going on a date with one of the yoga teachers one night.
The Alpha Stim was the Alpha Stim 100: http://www.wavemedicalcorp.com. I can't remeber the company I got it from but I rented it for one month for around $100 I think.
I think it was this company but it looks like they have a newer or different model than I used. A brand called Alpa Stim M: http://www.alleviahealth.com/rental.htm
It was relaxing but it was subtle. I went to this naturopathic doctor and he had this huge one that had a band to your head. When I went back to him after doing the Alpha Stim 100 on my ears once a day, I remember being a lot better. I was also doing other stuff. I mean was attacking anxiety from every angle I could think of. At the time I was going through Klonopin withdrawal too, which made everything worse. If I remember correctly, the Alpha Stim is also used for drug withdrawal. Read the info on the links and see for yourself.
I can't understand people who just submit to anxiety and think doctors are their saviors. Organize their lives around anxiety with no drive to overcome it. I just don't get it.
Keep me updated.
PanicCured,
Thank You sooooo much for your post. i am having such an awful time going through panic and anxiety and i fear that I'll never feel better again. Its a horrible feeling and its causing some severe depression as well. Your post gave me some hope.... I go to a great doctor but I'm on so many different meds. Ive been going through this for about 7 months now and somedays are either pretty bad or just terrible. I hope I can overcome this too :*-(