Very strange/scary thoughts before and during naps/sleep.

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Originally Posted by sae

I would love to hear every response to this thread. Sleep is my mortal enemy.

I have never liked sleeping, now that I wear out so easily I can no longer spend 3 days awake at a time. My circadian rhythm is riddled with odd occurences.

I can only manage to sleep comfortably if I am either not alone or between the hours of 6 am to 10:30 AM. That part at least is like clockwork. About every three weeks or so I will shut down and sleep for a good 14 hrs or so.
If I sleep I will dream vividly every time. When I dream I run the risk of running into those stupid dream memories, re living things I have effectively forgotten in my waking state. In my sleep I talk, cry,scream, and punch, so much so my kid now sleeps at the opposite end of the house with headphones on.

I want rest so badly these days it almost makes me cry (if I were the crying type).

If I need more than 4.5 hours of sleep I go to bed with a trazadone/diphenhydramine cocktail. It works except it makes me feel like total butt in the morning and there is no getting up to an alarm or waking me.


If I am not alone then I seem to sleep okay. I still mumble and cry a bit I am told but it doesn't wake me fully. Unfortunately right now it isn't financially or emotionally responsible for us to live together yet.

So I guess I don't have any useful advice on this one, but I can relate to it very well.

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Here is your useful advice:

There is no such thing as 'extremely abnormal thoughts' so don't go with the sheep on this one.

What keeps you awake is your inner self FINALLY grabbing your attention to get rid of all of those false ideas you hold about yourself, those mental problems that remain unresolved and those conflicting beliefs that played havoc with your life since childhood.

In the terms of the OP in this old thread "stray, abnormal thoughts' - and I do not even like those words because they are FALSE IDEAS, but using them in this context, they are therapeutic. In that they lead you to a resolution, and healing.

Should any of you continue to ignore your inner 'calling' then the vice grip of pain and fear will grow ever tighter, until you are ultimately forced to look at self when every other distraction has failed.

I have written a textbook on this topic throughout my posts, you can go back and read them, any of you.

I'm just going to cut and paste a reply I just wrote elsewhere:

I get this sometimes. I have these thoughts pop into my head when I'm trying to fall asleep (or half asleep) and they're so weird they make me anxious. They aren't necessarily negative, just bizarre, and I have to get up and do something or I lie there in a state of anxiety.

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Originally Posted by gypsylee

I have to get up and do something or I lie there in a state of anxiety.

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Lie there and go into the anxiety (do not ride it to nowhere) - take charge of the direction it takes. It has a purpose, and is useful. In the anxiety itself, in those moments, you can lead yourself into the beliefs (that cause the anxiety) by following the thoughts and questioning them.

Both 'getting up and doing something', and 'lie there in anxiety' (without accomplishing anything) are both useless in getting to a resolution and healing.

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Originally Posted by Im-Suffering

Lie there and go into the anxiety (do not ride it to nowhere) - take charge of the direction it takes. It has a purpose, and is useful. In the anxiety itself, in those moments, you can lead yourself into the beliefs (that cause the anxiety) by following the thoughts and questioning them.

Both 'getting up and doing something', and 'lie there in anxiety' (without accomplishing anything) are both useless in getting to a resolution and healing.

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No, just no :)

I really recommend some kind of relaxation before sleep. I get the crazy thoughts for some many years and I am still alive. I do like Gypsy does. I get up and go play some stupid senseless game on computer then go back to bed, headphones on with calming Jon's voice, very low volume............ and before I know it, I am snoring so, it is time to take off the headphones turn on left side and sleep.

In my opinion easy access to information is not so beneficial especially for youngsters. I had remember reading a book in my early twenties about schizophrenia, and of course I got that. I was terrified that I have the disease, having so many of the symptoms............till next book about bipolar and go on .................. 21 years old is going on meds and being sure it is anxiety. Anxiety has a very important role in our life. It is to protect us
It is not necessarily wrong to have some. A lot of people have anxiety when facing difficult decisions or even choosing the career .........

Years ago it was called a fear, in centrality or whatever English word was adequate. When I read through boards I am terrified, it seems it is an epidemic, or is trendy? I think is some of both

Just shoot me if I am wrong;)))