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tottenhamhotspur
03-30-2011, 06:39 PM
Hey All.
I hope that I can find some help and support here, and perhaps give some to others.

My name is Brad and I am 25 years old. I have some symptoms that seem typical of anxiety and stress disorders as well as OCD but I have never been formally diagnosed.

I often feel uneasy and that I need to 'move' and do the 'next task' but the problem is that there is nothing else to do. I find it hard to relax and not worry about things like death, loss and loneliness almost all the time.
I also have obsessive tendencies that tie in, and for the last almost 4 years I think almost 24/7 about the same event, one of the things I regret and feel guilty about. I often let guilt and worry get the best of me and get me worked into a bit of a frenzy. Perhaps you have some advice on my specific situation
I have posted over 500 times on Yahoo Answers about the even that spurs on my anxiety most of the time, I'll post what I normally post below should anyone care to read and give me some advice or their viewpoint if they wish.
Also, I'll be going to counselling hopefully within the next month to try to get some help.


About 4 year ago, I went to a bar. I was 21 at the time, and pretty inexperienced when it came to any sort of physical interaction. I felt as though I needed to get out and see what I was 'missing'.
I was sitting outside of a local bar on a patio, and, with the bad judgement of alcohol and foolishness, french kissed a woman- she didn't kiss me or kiss me back, and a few moment later, for only a moment, put my hand down her pant and touched her butt (we were both sitting down and I don't think I got all that far). It all happened pretty quickly, and akwardly, as I have always been akward around women physically.
Anyhow, I have felt GUTTED about it, and obsessive about it for the last 4 years. I've never done anything like it before or after, and I didn't mean to cause any harm or offense by it, I just got carried away. She did not protest, hit me, run away, etc. or I surely would have stopped. I'd imagine she was a least surprised by it. I'm afraid I may have embarrassed or insulted her and should have been arrested or something. I am not a bad person, but made a mistake.
Any advice for me to stop obsessing and forgive myself?
Unfortunately I have no way to find her to ask her how she's doing, and more importantly, to apologize, explain myself and ask for forgiveness
I find day to day life difficult with my guilt, and I have struggled with other OCD issues

Ratzinger
03-30-2011, 06:58 PM
Hey Brad,

Welcome to the forum - I'm not surprised you have anxiety if you support Spurs! Quite a season you guys are having! ;-)

As for the incident in question, I'm unsure why you have been so nervous about the incident in question. It seems like she was quite happy for you to kiss her (she didn't push you away), and you give no indication that she objected to your little grope. It is perfectly normal in a passionate kissing situation for there to be a bit of touching in other areas. As an example, next time you watch a movie with a passionate kiss in, and you may notice that (even in an idealised kissing setting) the man will often put his hands around the woman's waist to pull her close to him, which is not far off what you did!

Even if you were inappropriate (which I don't necessarily think you were) and she was offended (which she would have made quite clear!) I don't think she will still be annoyed with an inappropriate touch from 4 years ago, if she remembers it at all! If she was drunk, she may not have even remembered it the next morning! If anything, she would probably be upset that it was still bothering you so much 4 years later!

I hope this helps, and I wish you all the best with this. Can I also ask, have you spoken to any female friends about this? A female friend you trust may be able to assure you that this is nothing to worry about.

tottenhamhotspur
03-30-2011, 07:09 PM
thanks Ratzinger (perhaps if/when I get to know you better I can simply refer to you as 'the pope' ? :)

What I did was totally out of character . We were both just sitting there and I thought she might be interested in me. You have to understand that I have some mild to sever physical phobias and anxieties. Instead of curing them, I made them a HELL of alot worse.

my female friends all say mostly the same thing- you messed up, your human, you never did it before. You never did it after. You never meant to harm anyone.
Give it up already. You are a good guy.

Now I just have to make myself beleive this.
I don't know if she was perfectly happy with it, but I also don't think she was totally destroyed by it either. Sometimes I live in my own world, where I think I know everything and what people think, etc. The reality is- I am just thinking of the worst possible outcomes all the time.