Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety

[bhamlaxy]

Definitely some great info. Is hanino still around?

I picked up some Magnesium glycinate a few days ago but hadn't thought about adding aminos. What's the best product (I have full access to a bunch of drug stores and GNC)?

I'm sure some new products have come out in the 3 years since the thread has been around. I'll star

[plumb]

i bought magnesium today, 375mg to take one a day , heres hoping

[G_A]

Hi All,
I have been doing a lot of reading about this and am really interested in the facts behind it.
One thing I cannot put my finger on is exactly which supplements and ingredients I need.

I am fit and healthy other than suffering from every anxiety under the sun. Does any one have any suggestions as to what I should be looking for?
I have found Solgar Magnesium Citrate or I could get B-Complex tablets..

Please help as I am so confused, but the stories in this thread almost seem too good to be true but from what I can read everyone here is really using this stuff to help with beating anxiety for good.

OP suggested using Magnesium Chloride which looks like a transdermally used supplemented.
I know which Amino to buy, I have picked out TwinLabs Amino Fuel Liquid. But the magnesium solution escapes me and I'd really appreciate someone pointing me at which one I should buy. I'm using Amazon - any better place am open to suggestions.

[plumb]

iv got a similar question as ga, i managed to find magnesium but only like magnesium itself not like cholride or citrate , im in the uk dont know if thats got anything to do with it. it did say on the tub that it benefits the nervous system is this stuff good enough or should i really try find a certain type?

[G_A]

iv got a similar question as ga, i managed to find magnesium but only like magnesium itself not like cholride or citrate , im in the uk dont know if thats got anything to do with it. it did say on the tub that it benefits the nervous system is this stuff good enough or should i really try find a certain type?


Give it a try you have nothing to loose .

The thing is you are better to take it before food on a empty stomach so it cross the blood brain barrier .

There is also a magnesium oil which you rub on your skin or put in a bath .

Yo.
I ordered TwinLab Amino Fuel and 60x Bio-Magnesium 200mg tabs from 'dolphinfitness' - you'll have to google it as I'm below the post count limit
Total came to about £15 I think, the supply should last me around 2 months by my calculations.

The tablets I ordered have Magnesium Carbonate, Magnesium Hydroxide and Magnesium Acetate

200mg makes it 67% RDA so I am gonna start off taking 1 in the morning and see how that goes.


I am gonna keep you posted here if it works or not. For me this is almost a last ditch attempt to overcome anxiety as I have tried a lot of methods and whilst they sometimes work for a few weeks or so revisting them has not worked afterwards.

Watch this space.

[nf1234]

I have been reading up on this method alot also. Please keep us updated with how it goes!

[knp]

I stared just aminofuel week ago
not taking magnesium or glutamune powder

it's working feels better
Feels less boring generally happy
No anxiety attacks or anticipating anxiety

But being lactose and gluten intolerant it makes me tired
This tiredness might not help me keep taking it but it works great

Searched Quick note

Amino acids are building blocks of neurotransmitters

Over 90% serotonine receptors are in gut So most of serotonin is made in gut
Vitamine b6 major cofactor in serotonin synthesis
Vitamine b complex converts amino acids into neurotransmitters

So good complete protein plus b complex might help create neurotransmitters

First rule out lacose or gluten allergy

Take good probiotic
Or enzymes for better digestion

this is just information I have found

Take care
Be brave

[nf1234]

Are you taking it everyday? And are you taking the serving size of 3 tablespoons a day?

Thanks!

[knp]

Just 20ml everyday it works good but I had to stop because it makes me tired

it has milk and I am lactose intolerant
And vegetarian

Remember lactose and gluten allergy does not allow to absorb nutrient so supplement is good

People with anxiety and panic mostly lactose and gluten intolerant
If they address this allergy problem they can cure anxiety too

[G_A]

Hi,
I've had the flu but have been taking the magnesium and amino fuel.

I feel calmer but I am not willing to start printing results yet as I want to wait until I am over this flu.

Will let you know in a weeks time how it's going.

[Buttercup]

Am interested to hear how you guys get along with these. I've just started on vitamin B complex, magnesium and 5-HTP. Although I read some horror stories on line about folk who have taken 5-HTP and it's made their anxiety worse. Also read that 5-HTP won't do anything if you are not deficient in seratonin. But how do you know if your deficient in seratonin or not? Is there a blood test?

[bec43]

hey hanino i was just curious as to what types of symptoms you had? just a couple will be fine im just curious as to see if i actually have anxiety and if this solution will work for me.

[Emmzee]

hey hanino i was just curious as to what types of symptoms you had? just a couple will be fine im just curious as to see if i actually have anxiety and if this solution will work for me.

I would like to know that as well. Would these amino acid and magnesium supplements can cure the feelin of being out I reality/ derealization?Do we need to take both of them together?

[Emmzee]

An update: I have started to use amino fuel and Magnesium (240 mg)mentioned by Hanin, yet to see the results.

[Dale King]

One of the best pieces of advice i can give (and following on from the OP) is to look after your diet. i can not stress this enough.

Amino Acids and magnesium can help, but all effects are amplified when you add further things like B Vitamins (Specifically Niacin - Although consult your doctor before supplementing just this as it can be harmful if not balanced correctly) as well as Omega 3 Fats (Olive oil, nuts and avocado)

Not to mention cutting out all processed sugars and starches. (This means specifically Soda, soft drink, processed juices, and sweets, as well as white bread)

The effect on brain chemistry that a propper diet can have is remarkable.

[G_A]

Hi,
It's been a while. I feel a lot different now.
The transformation has been gradual and completely subcontious, which is a good thing. I've got to admit from reading the thread I was expecting over-night results - so to all those trying this, hang in there for a bit :) I feel very calm day to day, I don't feel the need to immediately put barriers up when faced with a new/previously horrifying situation like going to a meeting or being in a crowded place. All these situations, whilst still are in the back of my mind as being something potentially bad - I am now looking at with fresh eyes if that makes sense.
I have had no panic attacks since taking this and have not thought about how life is bad or anything along those lines.

One thing to mention, one of the elements of what I'm taking (I think) is having quite a negative impact on my...regularity, not quite sure how to say this in a nice manner lol. I need to look at alternatives of the magnesium first as this seems most likely to be the cause based on what is mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

Dale one thing you have mentioned, having a good diet is very important I completely agree. On the flipside of this, it is very very very difficult for anxiety sufferers to have a good diet as a common symptom we all experience is poor and irregular appetite. When I have become very anxious in the past, eating becomes something which actually makes my anxiety worse and makes me vomit like you would not believe!! After this recent development with these supplements I have had no problems at all with my appetite which is great :)

[knp]

Hi G A
Good to know you being doing great. One thing i like to mention that try magnesium glysinate or magnesium taurinate 400mg. Its best form and easily absorbable without any side effects.

seems like these product is revolution in terms of beating anxiety. that is great
I have also tried aminofuel product and mentioned that it makes me tired but it worked great. I might try againe to take it. Your result has encouraged me to take againe even thought it has made me tired because i am gluten and lactose intolerant and it has milk in it. I am also vegetarian and it has gelatin in it.

I do not know that it is making me tired or something else.

quick question how much you are taking ? I used to take only 20ml aminofuel in the morning and that has made good impact like no anticipatory anxiety or anxiety attack.
i was not taking any magnesium or glutamine at that time.

please let me know that how much you are taking ? with food or without food ? what time and how many times a day ?

your reply will be greatly appreciated

take care
be brave

[Emmzee]

I felt awesome for the first two days of taking amino fuel and magnesium,however the last couple of days are no so great.but I am not concluding anything right now. I am taking 200 my magnesium (from GNC) in form f oxide. Should I double up magnesium?
My religious dietary instructions exclude products containing gelatin . Does any one know of any other amino acid mixture that works but do not contain gelatin?

[SuperWomanJB]

Hi,
I read your posting and I need help with my anxiety.
I tried messaging you but I'm unable to. Please message me on what products I need to buy?
thanks
JESSICA

[nf1234]

-Jessica

Look at the earlier posts and you should be able to find all the information about which products, where to buy, how much to take ect.

It seems like many have posted saying the bought the products and are about to try but not much follow up. So I am assuming it worked wonderfully and they felt so good they never came back to follow up? Or maybe it didn't work out and they never bothered to re-post?

Either way if you have tried this method please let us know your experience both positive and negative!

Thanks!

[dave972]

I just received my magnesium chloride and twin lab amino fuel...time to test this out how it goes well

[kakariki]

i have started taking 5htp is this the same thing?

[Buttercup]

I started taking magnesium and vitamin b complex a couple of weeks ago. I decided not to take the 5 HTP- doc said not to as I am already on an SSRI and taking them together could lead to excess seratonin.
Haven't noticed a difference apart from the b vits making my pee extra yellow! But then I am quite cynical about vitamins etc curing anxiety so maybe am not in the right mindset. I believe that anxiety can only be overcome by the individual and not vitamins. While pills and therapy helps you get on the path to being anxiety free only the sufferer themselves can fix the problem.
Saying that, I'm still willing to try any vitamin, supplement, med, treatment etc that mat help. Still need to try amino fuel, bit put off by the fact it's designed for body builders though! Xxx

[kakariki]

Hi, I find it all very confusing. I googled amino fuel and it didnt sound like what I was looking for.5htp is specifically for anxiety and depression, sleep etc and I am not on any other medication and it looks like it has good results. Im in NZ and have been to many health shops and they dont seem to stock the amino fuel or anything like it.

[fresh]

I solved my anxiety by changing my diet, after suffering with anxiety for over eight years and being bounced from one tablet to another I couldnt believe that diet and exersize solved it. You should check out - www help anxiety dot net - I found a diet there that really helped me bigtime including some of the above.

[overunder]

Very interesting, I haven't tried L Glutamine yet. I have been taking B complex, L-Theanine (builds GABA) and L-Tryptophan (builds serotonin) along with magnesium -- for many months. It all comes in a supplement called Tranquilene. I need to take more than the recommended dosage to get as calm as I want, but I am pretty sure it's the amino acids in there that make it work so well.

As far as I have learned, amino acids help build neurotransmitters (along with b vitamins and other nutrients), and neurotransmitters keep us experiencing stress at healthier levels. But they definitely seem to be a key piece to the puzzle.

[nf1234]

Overunder, How effective have you found the Tranqualine?

[tdw]

Thanks for sharing. I bought the amino acid and magnesium yesterday and will see what happens. Hopefully it will work

[plumb]

is magnesium taurate safe to take?

[arsenalfun]

Magnesium is very very good and I never heard that someone is allergic on magnesium, but if you are not sure you can consult a doctor or take a smaller dose.

[ivanas757]

I've been taking this combination along with a really good.multi vitamin and extra vitamin d3 because I am deficient . The first 3 days I felt AMAZING. ever since . Not so much. I read somewhere the amino acid starting with a t can actually make you shakey and give you anxiety well I've been having it so bad lately. I've been on xanax probably 8 out of the 10 years I've had anxiety. I certainly am not addicted thank God but I have panicked thinking about not having my .25 to .50 dose in case I start panicking. It's the only thing that will for.sure kick the anxiety. That however makes me livid because that makes me see that it really truly is nothing. Ugh I am going to continue magnesium and amino acids till next week for the 2 weeks but if I don't feel much better I don't see the purpose. I just want to be better and I will practically do anything. I've even started debating being hypnotized.

[Houdini]

I started taking Astaxanthin, Vitamin D and Zinc. I felt ok for a week or so, then I added B complex from AOR. Well, for the last couple of days I feel terrible again. I suffer from GAD and depression for the last 10 years and it is the worst thing that ever happened to me. I feel worse every day. I'm 35 now and I'm willing to try anything to get out of it.
I'm now waiting for Amino fuel, magnesium and glutamine. We'll se how it goes but I have to say I am very skeptic. I also tried in the past: Psychologists, Psychiatrists, Hypnosis, alternative medicine, Theanine, Bacopa, Holy Basil, Relora, Fish oil, Magnesium Taurate, Rhodiola Rosea, Lexapro, Citalopram to name a few. Don't let it discourage you... It's only my experience.

[DrSusanHickman]

Thanks for sharing this, Hanino. I am constantly amazed at how important good nutritional support is for correcting imbalances, even imbalances that we would not initially think of as primarily a physical disorder. It just punctuates nicely, once again, how important all the macro and micro nutrients are to maintaining all aspects of us as humans, including the mind and body, and how inseparable they truly are. How cool of you to discover this! I will pass this along!

[Wychhh]

I'm so interested in trying the amino fuel since I'm already taking magnesium, does anyone know if I can take it will on anxiety medication? I'm currently on 30 mg avanza a night

Thank you

[Thursday]

Hanino, is the regimine something that I should do from now on out (amino acids + magnesium)? Will I build up too much in my system? Just started magnesium but plan to pick up some amino acids soon. Been taking chelated magnesium, but had someone tell me magnesium citrate is better. Opinion? Also, if I'm taking a multivitamin + magnesium, would l-glutamine be sufficient?

[nf1234]

Hanino, is the regimine something that I should do from now on out (amino acids + magnesium)? Will I build up too much in my system? Just started magnesium but plan to pick up some amino acids soon. Been taking chelated magnesium, but had someone tell me magnesium citrate is better. Opinion? Also, if I'm taking a multivitamin + magnesium, would l-glutamine be sufficient?


Chelated magnesium is better then magnesium citrate. It is better absorbed and has less potential to upset your bowels.

[Damavandi]

Hi:

Your approach was brilliant to cure yourself--congratulations.
I was deficient in vitamin D3, and I also got cured by taking care of this
problem. Please read my Thread " The Cure ?" at the depression forum of this site.

I know a lot both about amino acids, and vitamin D3. Please send me a private message.
I tried to send you a private message. Somehow, it seems that the cpacity of your in-box is full.

Best wishes,
Ali

[nf1234]

Hi:

Your approach was brilliant to cure yourself--congratulations.
I was deficient in vitamin D3, and I also got cured by taking care of this
problem. Please read my Thread " The Cure ?" at the depression forum of this site.

I know a lot both about amino acids, and vitamin D3. Please send me a private message.
I tried to send you a private message. Somehow, it seems that the cpacity of your in-box is full.

Best wishes,
Ali


I am curious what your D3 level was? I recently had my D3 level checked and it was at 34. The lower limit of the range is 30 so I am close but not technically deficient. Do you think this is low enough to cause symptoms?

[DrZafirides]

nf1234,

A wonderful resource online is the Vitamin D Council (you can just google "Vitamin D Council"). This is a non-profit organization founded by Dr. John Cannell. I have followed Dr. Cannell's work for a few years and have begun to routinely get Vitamin D levels in my patients now. This is all thanks to Dr. Cannell. I was fortunate enough to interview him for an hour on my weekly podcast a few months back. He is an amazing individual.

I would say that AT LEAST 80% of the Vitamin D levels I get on my patients comes back as deficient. And that is being conservative.

Take the time to research Vitamin D. It is worth your (everyone's) time - and health.

Kindly,
Dr. Zafirides

[nf1234]

nf1234,

A wonderful resource online is the Vitamin D Council (you can just google "Vitamin D Council"). This is a non-profit organization founded by Dr. John Cannell. I have followed Dr. Cannell's work for a few years and have begun to routinely get Vitamin D levels in my patients now. This is all thanks to Dr. Cannell. I was fortunate enough to interview him for an hour on my weekly podcast a few months back. He is an amazing individual.

I would say that AT LEAST 80% of the Vitamin D levels I get on my patients comes back as deficient. And that is being conservative.

Take the time to research Vitamin D. It is worth your (everyone's) time - and health.

Kindly,
Dr. Zafirides

Thank you for your insight I have since looked at the Vitamin D Council website. They claim your level should be at least 50 so it sounds like I need to supplement. Would you say, with your experience, that my low vit D level of 34 could be causing symptoms?

[digbee]

Don't you think it's rather a placebo effect?

[DrZafirides]

Hanino,

I have read the entire thread on magnesium and anxiety. I must say I more than intrigued in this topic. I will try to do some research on this topic and see if I can't get a guest on my weekly podcast to shed more light on this issue.

Has anyone on this thread know come across any professional/researcher I can contact to see if they want to come on The Healthy Mind podcast to discuss this further? Any help would be appreciated. Fascinating!

Thanks to all of you for your contributions. It has piqued my interest and I hope I can return the favor by having an expert on my show to discuss the role of magnesium in anxiety.

Kindly,
Dr. Zafirides

[here2network]

I find that Tryptophan works very well. I know many people that have used it and have achieved positive results. Although just like all other medication it's important not to take high doses of it, otherwise it can induce drowsiness.

Let me know how you get along and pm me anytime.

[bonehead]

Day 5 using the Amino Fuel and Magnesium as suggested by OP: The buzzing/ringing in my head is all but gone (unless I concentrate on listening for it). The weird sensations in my head are all but gone. The constant on-edge waiting for the next mind-melting sensation or fear of a panic attack is all but gone. This weekend, I experienced zero anxiety while at the grocery store, I drove in the dark without freaking out by every car that went by me, and I sat through an intimate dinner with friends without having to focus on holding myselft together. And, most notably, the ever-present heavy foggy headed feeling like i have wet concrete for a brain are quickly being replaced with feelings of normalcy.

I want to shout it from the roof tops! Thank you hanini!!!!

[Andrew]

What an inspirational post to read! Psychological reasons can also cause anxiety disorders predominately, but chemical-biological activity mediates our physical and mental conditions. Optimal nutrition of the essential amino acids and minerals, especially magnesium and calcium, will tackle natural coherent functioning of the body and mind, but if this does not completely subside your anxiety join it with a little psychological knowledge of anxiety, maybe by therapy or personal learning, and then both sides of the condition will secure the cure of an anxiety condition of mind. The natural vitamins and minerals in food and supplements can obtain natural brain and body chemistry, but remember the mind has equal effects on biology as biology has on mind. Let the nutritional-biological nurture work its magic though! Again, amazing to hear of people relieved from the crippling state of anxiety!

[bonehead]

Day 13 and I still feel amazingly better. Not 100% - I still have that annoying head buzzin, but it's mostly just in the evenings now (perhaps from the Mag getting used up?) and the occasional feeling where my head is imploding on itself when talking one-on-one to others. Otherwise I'm feeling great!!

[nf1234]

Great to hear! What kind of Mag are you taking and how much daily?

[rainbow1]

Where can I get amino acids and magnesium safely? Holland and b?

[bonehead]

Amino Acids - I take about 1 ½ tablespoons of

Twin Labs Amino Fuel (GNC # 2133528)


Magnesium - I take 1 tablet of either of these.

Slo-Mag (Walgreens product # 3498261) or

GNC Mulit-Mineral (GNC # 2133415).


I take these each morning as soon as i wake up.

[rcohn20]

How does this formula work? What exactly does it do to stop the anxiety?

[rcohn20]

How does this work? How do these ingredients alleviate anxiety?

[martin19]

Not being funny but this all sounds like a load of crap no offence but magnesium and amino acids the super cure for anxiety I have generalised anxiety disorder and I doubt this works it's just the thought of suggestion but if it works then I will try it it's just the fact of how do u know wene anything is working or it isn't cause everything leads into another thing anxiety really pisses me off now that it makes me angry more than panicy tbh I'm on some sertraline 50 mg and have been the last 5 months yeah it's made me less depressed but it's made me anxious as hell Wich is making me depressed how the fuck does that work is there actually anything these fucking doctors can do like if I went in the nhs with a broken neck they would operate but it's alright to let people suffer with this bullshit every day of there lives and not even be able to 100% diagnose that it's what it is :s it's fucked up man we need to take a stand

[fred53]

Do you get this at any health food store and would you mind telling me exactly what it's called and the dosage you started on?

Thanks

[MeToo]

Has anyone experienced greater anxiety or restlessness etc after greatly increasing their Protein intake? I was only getting about 22g of protein a day and got hungry quite easily, I upped the Protein to 40 something grams a day (protein bars) but after just 3 days I was massively restless, squimry, hyped up etc.

[Manpie]

I'm going to give B6 and D3 a go.

[Manpie]

Holland & Barrett is the best place.

[mypower]

Thanks for sharing. Love and Light to All.

[dazza]

I'm on the fence with this.

It's highly probable that, if you are genuinely deficient then of course taking the supplements IS going to make you feel generally better.

If, by feeling better, this HELPS to reduce your anxiety then it would seem like this is a cure, albeit an indirect one.

I've tried various stuff and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

What DOES make a difference is general mood. If you're in a good mood then anxiety seems to get pushed aside or overriden - but this is usually only short term.

If supplements can put you in a continuous good mood then it would also seem you've cracked it.

I don't buy it as a general cure for all. I imagine it will only work for some for the above reasons.

[bonehead]

Day 35: C'mon in boys, the water is fine.

[PanicCured]

Dazza you do much more damage on this site than help! I actually do not see how you help at all. It hugely helps to take supplements with anxiety so you can get your body back to health. Medication doe snot build up your body, supplements do. You just have tot take the right ones.

[justconfused]

I have had so many blood tests done and many variations of tests. They all were good, so would a deficiency show up?

[nf1234]

Most normal tests ordered by doctors will only show severe deficiencies. For example a CMP covers basic things such as calcium, potassium, ect. These levels are tested within the blood serum. To get a truly accurate reading the levels of these minerals need to be tested from inside the red blood cells. If you google red blood cell mineral test you can learn more. Most regular MD's will not order this level of testing but it is standard for all Naturopathic doctors. If all your blood work was normal thats a good sign. You are most likely healthy and have no life threatening deficiencies. Deficiencies in things such as magnesium at the intercellular level much cause you problems such as anxiety and insomnia.

[speedball]

wow thank you

[cabcom]

Hi Hanino,

Can you be a little more specific as to what Amino Acid and Magnesium you take? A link on Ebay would be good, or a picture of the actual bottle, etc.

Thanks much.

[cabcom]

Hanino,

Is it okay to take the amino fuel and magnesium with 25mg paxil?

[Moonstone]

Hi Hanino,

I've done some reading and spoke with a knowledgable person at the health food store and they say that the AA L-Glycine really helps with anxiety and panic. What do you think of that AA? I am new here and I thank you for your input!

[wiltingrubie]

I am excited about this post! I have recently started experiencing panic attacks and anxiety and have been told a number of times to get myself to see a Dr and get meds but I'm feeling very cautious about starting medications as I am only 27 and dont want to rely on them for the rest of my life!

[kbuzz1]

I just started the regimen today. I think I feel a difference but it could be placebo. I'll keep you all posted.

[warumtera]

Thanks for sharing your solution to your anxiety

[lionofdisouth]

I have the natural calm magnesium and amino fuel. do i take them at the same time? does it matter what time of day?

[M.C]

Hi

I had a calcium protein and magnesium blood test done and it came back normal
And I m also pregnant is it safe to take the amino acids along with the magnesium

[suzie f]

WOW what a great thread!! I have heard a lot about the amino acids and they now use it in some rehabs for addiction cravings. They put the clients on a IV drip. I love that we are finding natural solutions!!

I started taking "Equilib". My life is sooooo changed because of it!! It's a natural supplement with all the things you've mentioned. I started on that but would suggest the kit. It's called "Emotional balance kit". I ended up doing it that way as I achieved better results. I ordered from diverticulitusinfo.com (it was in my area). The doctor will talk to you on the phone or by e-mail and answer any questions too. She is super nice and knowledgeable with natural products.

I was on a ton of meds until my organs started shutting down and I was sooooo sick!! This is the best I have done in years! My anxiety had been through the roof and panic attacks kept me as a prisoner in my home for about a year! It was horrible!! I even sleep well now. The product is amazing!! I might add that there was a huge change around 2-3 weeks and my life hasn't been the same since!! 180 degree change and I am sooooo thankful.

I wish you all the best of luck and so pleased we are finding natural solutions!!













Thanks for sharing your solution to your anxiety Hanino, I appreciate It.

I think that you are on to something with the amino acids.

I stared taking the L-glutamine yesterday, and will start taking amino Acid today. I've been taking magnesium for a couple months now, as well as B vitamins, omega 3 fatty acids (fish oil and flax) etc... and it all has helped. But It takes time.

The amino acids may be the last major piece of the puzzle.

[half2teach]

Hanino,
I have had panic disorder over two decades. I have been on paxil for 13 years. How do I get off that and onto your solution? Any advice???? thx

[bonehead]

8 months anxiety free.. Hanino, you are an angel!!

[firerot]

Hello all, I'm new here, couldn't help reading this thread to chime in that I feel I may have also felt some relief since I started supplementing

[nf1234]

8 months anxiety free.. Hanino, you are an angel!!

Are you taking just the magnesium or the aminos also?

[oohnana24]

I have been on Sam-e and Magnesium for a month and a half and i am still suffering from anticipatory anxiety. This is ruining my life. I just doubled the Sam-e dose last week but my doctor prescribed me Lexipro and told me to keep the script just in case I want to take it. I am seriously thinking about it since I have a trip to Hershey coming up July 13. Please help.

[Wychhh]

My 2 cents magnesium citrate sucked and only worked as a laxative but the amino acid chelated magnesium cured all of my symtoms
Fast heart rate, out of rhythm heat, choking sensation, worry all the time and the list goes on I made a quick review thread today have a look guys. hanino is a life saver!

[kelliesean]

I have been on Sam-e and Magnesium for a month and a half and i am still suffering from anticipatory anxiety. This is ruining my life. I just doubled the Sam-e dose last week but my doctor prescribed me Lexipro and told me to keep the script just in case I want to take it. I am seriously thinking about it since I have a trip to Hershey coming up July 13. Please help.

There is nothing wrong w taking medication for a disease.. People don't think twice about taking their insulin for diabetes.. Or cholesterol meds.. High blood pressure meds.. Medicating a serious and life debilitating mental disease should be no different .. Living with that disease is not really living at all..

Toooonnnsss of people are on anti anxiety meds.. And so many of us have had such amazing relief.. Unfortunately there is such a stigma attached to taking drugs that affect the brain chemistries., but that's very easy for people not suffering to say..

I am not sure about the magnesium and amino acids.. Maybe it does work? Not sure..

But I can tell you that Zoloft saved my life 10 years ago..

[oohnana24]

Ok, so I decided not to submit to lexapro. Instead, I'm going to buy amino fuel and take that with magnesium instead of the Sam-e. my problem is that I read that amino acids won't work and might enhance problem when taken with anti depressants. I am on 15 mg of remeron. Is remeron considered anti depressant?should I stop taking it?

[oohnana24]

I have been taking Amino Fuel for two days now and feel extremely tired and maybe a little dizzy. Anyone else experience this?

[stephanie3126]

Thank you for this post. I'm a new anxiety sufferer so I'm not going to be taking anything just yet (trying to overcome it the old fashioned way), but I will certainly be looking at these before I accept any med from my doctor. My question is what should be the regimen while taking these? (ie magnesium once a day, amino fuel twice a day, etc) would really appreciate it

[Shepard]

Was taking Mag citrate for a couple days, worked almost instantly..felt great for two days. Did some reading about what the best form was, found Mag taurate and started taking it yesterday and I feel pretty crappy. About an hour after my first dose(125mg) I had a pretty intense shaking fit and could hardly stop..been feeling fuzzy and on edge all day today.

Any ever have any adverse reactions like this?
Thinking I'll return the taurate form and start taking the citrate again in a few days

[nf1234]

If the citrate was working for you id switch back to that. No idea why the taurate would bother you. Maybe you are sensitive to taurine? Who knows...

[Nara]

I started with magnesium and my muscle pain is gone! I am amazed.. I didnt read all the topics here but I want to share I suffered so much of chest, back, neck, head pain.. I even couldnt touch harder because the pain was there all the time. I was tired of massages massages haha but with magnesium is ALL GONE! I am more than 1 week and I already felt an enourmous diference!

[bonehead]

To kick my anxiety's ass, I take:

First thing after waking:
-about 2 tablespoons of Twin Labs Amino Fuel (includes much needed B vitamins)
-1 Slow-Mag (mg chloride with calcium)

After dinner:
-1 Slow-Mag

[Rickk90]

i'm a bodybuilder and have taken amino acids for quite some time but stopped when i felt all these anxiety attacks.
Are there any big name amino acids out there you guys recommend for anxiety? for example ; Amino X by BSN, Amino by Musclepharm etc..?

[bonehead]

I like Twin Labs Amino Fuel because it also contains the B vitamins that us anxiety suffers are usually deficient in.

[dazedd_out]

Does this stuff actually work?

[Dave Tupper]

Thanks Hanino for the info.

Ive always had a poor diet and thought that my anxiety and mild depression may be tied to it as these have gotten worse over time. I bought the amino acids from GNC and wanted to try it this weekend. However, I get anxiety from trying anything new that I haven't had before. I keep trying to talk myself into it but I just work myself up. I think I will just start with a tiny drop of it and work my way up to a useful amount. So I can convince myself its not going to do anything negative to me.

I'll update when I start it. Fingers crossed! But I will do anything not to take prescription drugs.

[Jane2013]

Hi Hanino & all,

My boyfriend has severe strange head feelings which brings on anxiety and panic. He's been to see many doctors / hospital and nothing has ever worked. So i also started research things that could help since the doctors have just pushed him to one side. I have bought him 5-HTP as well as B-50 (vitamin B Complex) the 5-HTP has 25mg of maganiusum in them, would anybody suggest buying more magnesium to up the magnesium dosage?

Any help would be great as we just feel like we are losing a battle all the time would be great for these to help him.

[downsouth]

Well haven't seen the originator of this post but I sure as heck am willing to try these supplements. One question is about gout. I get gout and to much proteins supposedly cause gout to flare up so anyone have insight on this... doent one of the supplements help digest proteins better?

[SleeplessInPA]

Hanino,

Thank you for sharing this information. I am going to look into this today.

[downsouth]

Where in Hanino

[starlightbliss]

I honestly benefited a lot from adding magnesium to my diet, whether through mixed nuts or the supplements, and it seemed to quiet my anxiety down quite a great deal.

[alex921]

Bump, does this work? Does someone has experiences?

[faultandfracture]

Anyone familiar with Amino Energy sold by Optimum Nutrition (ON)?

It has AMINO BLEND (MICRONIZED TAURINE, MICRONIZED L-GLUTAMINE, MICRONIZED L-ARGININE, MICRONIZED L-LEUCINE, CARNOSYN BETA-ALANINE, MICRONIZED CITRULLINE, MICRONIZED L-ISOLEUCINE, MICRONIZED L-VALINE, MICRONIZED L-TYROSINE, MICRONIZED L-HISTIDINE, MICRONIZED L-LYSINE, MICRONIZED L-PHENYLALANINE, MICRONIZED L-THREONINE, MICRONIZED L-METHIONINE).

But it's selling point is in the green tea extracts and green coffee extracts which give the "energy" in "Amino Energy."

[sparkling]

I honestly benefited a lot from adding magnesium to my diet, whether through mixed nuts or the supplements, and it seemed to quiet my anxiety down quite a great deal.

That's wonderful news. I have started taking Magnesium a couple of days ago. Am going to continue and probably add Amino Acids to the diet in the near future.

[astoria]

I actually cured my anxiety and depression and brain fog with amino acids. I actually feel normal now, I sleep normal and have physical and mental energy. My emotions have leveled out to the point where I feel really empowered, like I can make decisions that before I thought would be difficult or upsetting, but things just don't upset me that much anymore. I feel like I'm constantly focusing on goals and my future and actually getting things done. I don't feel tired any more like I need to take naps all the time during the day. It's so amazing I can't describe it.


Here is what I take:

1500 mg L-Tyrosine immediately upon waking on an empty stomach + 50 mg Vitamin B-6 (the Pyridoxine-5-Phosphate / P-5-P form)

With breakfast: A pharmaceutical-grade multivitamin, a Co-Enzyme B Complex vitamin, 1000 mg Vitamin C

1500 mg L-Tyrosine in the mid-afternoon on an empty stomach + 50 mg B6 (P-5-P form)

With dinner: A pharmaceutical-grade multivitamin, a Co-Enzyme B Complex vitamin, 1000 mg Vitamin C

100 mg 5-HTP before bed + 50 mg B6 (P-5-P form)


I'm going to cut down to 25mg of the B6 P-5-P for each dose because 50mg 3x/day is pretty high. But the B6 (P-5-P) is essential because it helps to break down the amino acids in your body so your body can convert them properly into the various neurotransmitters. If you're not taking P-5-P with amino acids, they're not going to be very effective.

I learned that if you take an SSRI like Prozac or Zoloft, you're just increasing a single neurotransmitter in your brain - serotonin. But this is bad for a couple of reasons. First, serotonin is only one of several neurotransmitters that regulate your mood. Second, whenever you increase one neurotransmitter in isolation, this will - over time - deplete your other neurotransmitters like dopamine and norepinephrine that give you energy and make you feel more 'alive'.

The L-Tyrosine increases dopamine and norepinephrine, while the 5-HTP (you can substitute this with L-Tryptophan) increases serotonin. So you're increasing several of the major mood-regulating neurotransmitters all at once, and the result is much better than taking something like Prozac alone (which I did for many years). It's also far safer!

I felt the first positive effects the first day, the next two weeks my mood was up and down, then everything leveled out after about two weeks and I've been feeling pretty much consistently good all day since then. I was even in tears several times during this period because I couldn't believe I was starting to feel like 'me' again - normal, total centered and grounded, emotionally stable, awake and motivated.

I first read about this in Dr. Priscilla Slagle's book "The Way Up From Down". It's a free PDF on her website. I also read Julia Ross's "The Mood Cure" which has a lot of the same information.

Good luck to everyone and I know you can beat your anxiety/depression!

P.S. I also removed almost all sugar, bad carbohydrates and caffeine from my diet. This alone helped immensely with my mood. Sugar and caffeine over time deplete serotonin in your brain, which is extremely bad if you're prone to anxiety/depression! Look into natural safe sweeteners like Stevia if you still have a sweet tooth. L-Glutamine is also remarkable I hear for sugar and carbohydrate cravings.

[dch]

Guys i got nauseous taking twinlab lpp protein (vitamin b com + animoacids).

Does taking only magnesium will help? How much ? Which form of magnesium?

[dch]

My magnesium level is 2,10 mg/dl. And normal range is 1,60 ÷ 2,60 . should i take magnesium supplement?

[astoria]

Out of curiosity, I just started taking 250mg of Magnesium Taurate at night right before bed. It really relaxes all of my muscles and makes me sleep really well. I experienced no stomach or intestinal discomfort from this form of magnesium. I could see how this could really help with anxiety. I did some research before trying it, and I found that this form of magnesium is very well absorbed and is one of the least likely to cause diarrhea.

[ehley]

are these things included in multi vitamins? i take the 50 in one a-z ones
let me know...
thanks

[astoria]

Ok, I found that 250mg of Magnesium Taurate is a little too much for me. It really relaxes me and easily puts me to sleep, but the next day I'm still kind of tired. I'm using 125mg now and it doesn't make me tired the next day.

Maybe Magnesium is the kind of thing that your body gets used to over time, but I think I'll stick to 125mg each night as that seems to do the trick.

[astoria]

are these things included in multi vitamins? i take the 50 in one a-z ones
let me know...
thanks

No, not in the normal multivitamins you can buy at a grocery store. Those mulitivitamins don't typically have enough in them to have any noticeable effect on mood.

There are really high quality multivitamin-minerals that you can buy online. I use the Tyson Nutraceuticals brand "M.V.M." I take two capsules with breakfast and two at lunch, or sometimes dinner instead.

But even those won't have enough Magnesium or amino acids in them (if they have them at all). You have to take those separately.

Look into Magnesium Taurate or Magnesium Glycinate. You generally have to get them at a health food store or online. Most normal grocery stores only have the Magnesium Oxide version, which won't really have any effect on you except give you diarrhea. Magnesium Taurate is probably the best, but you generally have to order that online.

You can get amino acid powder from any health food store.

[Devserver]

I just joined and have learned a lot already. I've read about the effects of magnesium on anxiety before but never had the chance to try it out since I am on escitalopram. Is it okay to take magnesium with Lexapro?

[GeneAllen]

I found this on Amazon The review was full of information. Hope this helps. I'm new and still studying this treatment form. Peace friends

This magnesium is sourced by Albion Laboratories, Inc. They're one of the highest quality producers of amino acid chelated magnesium products. In this product, magnesium is bonded to a glycine and lysine amino acid coordination complex. This form, I'm referring specifically to magnesium lysinate glycinate chelate, is most helpful for individuals suffering from anxiety. This is due to the anxiolytic effect that lysine has on the serotonin receptors in the intestinal tract. The glycine component is further helpful, as glycine is a neurotransmitter that acts directly as a NMDA receptor agonist. NMDA dysfunction has been implicated as a model in essentially every mental health disorder, but especially in schizophrenia, mood, and anxiety based disorders.

If you're supplementing magnesium for its mental health benefits you'll want to stay away from magnesium oxide, citrate, carbonate, sulfate, and the other inorganic forms of magnesium. Focus specifically on the amino acid based magnesium products, magnesium bisglycinate, glycinate, lysinate, taurate, etc. Magnesium glycinate and bis-glycinate are unequivocally the best forms if your disorder could involve NMDA dysfunction (i.e. psychosis, mood).

I asked the manufacturer, Doctor's Best, what the ratio of lysine and glycine was, and they replied back with the following statement: "Our High Absorption Magnesium formula contains 4.93% Lysine and 45.75% Glycine.". I'm guessing they are using Albion's product formula number 3500 (referred to by Albion as: Magnesium Lysinate Glycinate Chelate). Albion is unsurpassed in the world of mineral chelates, they are cGMP (Good Manufacturing Practice) certified by the FDA. Additionally, the Albion website states their glycinate formulations are kosher, hypoallergenic, vegetarian friendly, BSE-free, and GMO-free.

[tayloraine]

Hi, everyone. I've never posted here before, but I've spent the last few months visiting this thread almost religiously, and wanted to share my experience with Hanino's suggested regimen. The short story: it works! The long story is below, haha.

In late 2011, I started taking Abilify for trichotillomania (compulsive hair-pulling). I did not have anxiety or depression during this time; aside from the hair-pulling, I considered myself to be healthy mentally and physically. I took the Abilify for 2 months, the dosage gradually increasing to 15 mg (which I found out later is a ridiculously high dosage for treating trich--it's in the realm of bipolar treatment!). It worked, in the sense my pulling decreased about 50%. But it made me gain weight, and caused headaches. In January 2012, I stopped cold-turkey--my doctor at the time assured me this was safe, and that tapering was not needed, which I've since learned was WRONG.

A few days after stopping, I experienced the first of many days-long panic attacks. This first one entailed constant anxiety/panic, depression, crying, vomiting, trouble breathing, and depersonalization, from the time I woke up until the time I went to sleep, for five days. It ended just as suddenly as it began, and every few weeks since then, it would happen again--sometimes 3 days, sometimes as long as 2 weeks or, once, 21 days. Sometimes the episodes were so severe, I couldn't function. Other times, I felt well enough to at least go through the motions. Between the episodes, I felt completely, 100% normal. Some days I was even euphoric.

I knew, during these last 2 years, that the Abilify had done this to me. Every doctor I saw, though, said it was a combination of anxiety from graduating college (which happened one week after the first "episode"), and postpartum depression (I became pregnant 3 months after the first episode). I knew in my heart this was not the case--the anxiety and depression just *felt* different, with no emotional tie. I couldn't explain it, and after a while it was getting harder and harder to resist the allure of the Xanax and Lexapro doctors kept pushing at me, especially when things like Holy Basil Root and Ashwaghanda stopped working.

The day I found this thread, I had just filled my rX's. I was going to start taking them that very night, when I came upon Hanino's "cure." I was skeptical, but after reading so many positive reviews, I knew I had to try it. After all, if this regimen could help social anxiety--something that definitely feels emotionally linked--it made sense that it could help what I felt was a very physical problem--i.e., that the Abilify had caused some kind of neurotransmitter imbalance in my brain.

I spoke to my new physician about the regimen, and she agreed that it made sense to her--that the Abilify caused the imbalance, and that providing my body with these amino acids could help restore it.

Anyway...after 2 long, long years of this, I started the regimen: 30-40 mL of TwinLabs Amino Fuel liquid, 250 mg Magnesium, and just over a teaspoon of L-glutamine powder dissolved in a little water, every morning on an empty stomach. I don't eat for an hour after this or even drink extra water, to ensure absorption. I also take an additional 250 mg Magnesium at night right before bed, and have recently added 1200 mg NAC at dinnertime to help with my hair-pulling, which got even worse after stopping the Abilify. I started in late November 2013, and ever since then I feel almost completely like myself again! I still have days where I feel "twinges" of mild anxiety/depression, and I think those are days that WOULD be "episodes" if I weren't taking the regimen every day. I notice these days tend to occur after I drink alcohol or coffee, so I'm going to cut those out completely soon and see if that helps. But anyway...almost 2 months in and I'm feeling great! The euphoria that I used to get sometimes between the episodes has stopped, too--I'm just level. I'm happy when I should be, sad when I should be, and my emotions are appropriate in intensity and timing... like I said, I'm pretty much 100% back to my old self!

Since the regimen has seemed so successful thus far, my doctor has diagnosed me with pharmacologically-induced bipolar disorder, and is now recommending the regimen to other patients with anxiety/depression who do not want prescription meds or who have not responded well to them.

Hanino--I know you haven't been on here lately, as I'm sure you're out there living your life and anxiety is just a distant memory now (about which I'm very happy for you!) but if you happen to see this someday, thank you. I'm crying with gratitude right now--finally, after so much time not knowing what was wrong with me--after nearly giving up on life, truthfully--I have myself back. My baby girls gets the mom I wanted to be all along. I can't thank you enough.

To anyone reading this/wondering if it will work--I can say the chances of it working or at least greatly improving your condition are very high. Try it, if you are not on any medications currently, and stick with it for at least a month. For me, the difference showed immediately and by 4 weeks, aside from very mild/occasional "twinges," I was 100% back to how I used to be, maybe even better! I wish I had known about this sooner, but I know everything happens for a reason, so now I hope to take the last 2 years and learn from them, knowing somehow they have played an important role in my life, even though I'm SO glad to be done with them.

Best of luck to everyone <3
Taylor

PS: I get my Amino Fuel 2 for the price of 1 at Vitamin Shoppe, as well as my L-glutamine and magnesium (and my NAC). The Amino Fuel lasts about a month per bottle (the second-to-largest size the store sells), the L-glutamine has lasted 2 months--I just had to replenish it yesterday--and the magnesium is still half-full. So overall, in the course of a year, I'd say I'll spend $200 tops, which is overestimating greatly, but worth every penny even if it passes that estimate. I've experienced no side effects (though the NAC for my trichotillomania causes pain below my rib cage if I take it on an empty stomach!). I know nothing works for everyone...but I feel like this will definitely work for most. Just give it a shot and stick with it.

PPS: I felt 50% better on just the Amino Fuel after one day; then, 75% better the third day when I added the magnesium. A week later, I added the L-glutamine, and that's when I began feeling 100% better. Even if you count the twinges I get now and then, I'd say I'm at 99% now. And that's AMAZING after the last 2 years. Thank you again, Hanino, and to everyone else on this thread for posting and updating.

[raggamuffin]

Currently on atibiotics which mean coming off the SSRI I was trying. I'd only mustered 2 weeks of it so I couldn't have really felt the ebenfits. After reading this I decided to invest around £20 on the vitamins/supplements recommended. I won't be able to start themn until after the antibioticsa re done. But i'm certainly willing to give it a go.

Can multiple supplements be taken at the same time like before bed or around meals as specified on the packets or is it best to space them out throughout the day?

Ed

[HRPOWER]

When I took Amino Acids... in tablet from from Holland and Barret for training... it made me worse.. I am on paroxetine... ?????

[GeneAllen]

Magnesium Chloride here, and 420-520 mg a day. Was on slo mag from walmart, now using ALTA, less expensive on amazon. Feeling great. I stopped the L-glutamine for now. I also still take my low dose of 1.5 mg clonazepam, and 37.5 Effexor XR. Everything is GREAT! I found keeping up my positive affirmations 45 min. each morning, as well as brainsync, alpha waves twice a day or so. I feel like my subconscious is aligning again with my conscious state. Which when in harmony is lots more than just happy.
I have to stay away from B6 and B12 supplements myself.

Peace

[raggamuffin]

I'll try the magnesium as i've got some. Been on the b-complex with aminos for 4 days now. Not sure if i'm expecting much as i've always been taking a beating from hourly pains usually every minute of every day. But if something helps I shan't knock it.

Ed

[anxietyslayer]

I remember when I had developed an irregular heart beat due to my severe panic and anxiety, and the doctor suggested Magnesium. It really did help with my irregular heart beat. Now apart from protein shakes, I take a multivitamin (gummies) and feel better than ever, no more symptoms!

[HRPOWER]

Magnesium Doubled My Anxiety.... at least.... I am on paroxetine... be v careful.

[crmac50]

Interesting story. thanks!

[21pilots]

I am going to try this, but I am already taking protein that contains all the Amino Acids that are in the TwinLabs Amino Fuel. Should I just take the L Glutamine and Magnesium Chloride along with my protein? Or do I need to take the Amino Fuel as well?

[snowberry]

I took some mag yesterday. Can you take too much? What happens if you overdoese? Feel very shaky and dizzy. I only took one tablet.

[tayloraine]

I took some mag yesterday. Can you take too much? What happens if you overdoese? Feel very shaky and dizzy. I only took one tablet.

What mg did you take, and are you on any other supplements or medications? It could just be an interaction issue. Everything I've heard/read indicates that magnesium is safe, and that if you take too much at once your body will let you know (I've only heard of people getting tummy troubles, but shakiness/dizziness could be an indicator too I suppose).

Also, for anyone who's interested: I've been on this regimen now (30 mL Amino Fuel, 1 tsp glutamine powder, and 250 mg magnesium in the morning and another right before bed) since November, and I feel 99.99% back to my old self. In fact, the only reason I feel like it's not 100% is because I simply have the memory of the panic attacks--kind of a PTSD thing, I suppose--and occasionally I get little mild twinges of anxiety, which makes me paranoid another episode will happen. But it never does. :)

I was able to plan my wedding and get married--and the only stress I felt was normal wedding stress. No anxiety attacks, no depression. I actually had FUN planning, and our wedding day was everything I could have possibly imagined and more (last year I was dreading it, thinking for sure I'd be in full-blown panic mode the entire day). I'm now enjoying life with my new husband and our wonderful daughter. I have my life back, and it's even better now because I appreciate every day so much more.

To anyone reading who's debating trying this--if you aren't on any meds (I think you have to be off them at least six weeks), do the regimen. Give it a month--though I felt the difference immediately--and I'm positive you'll see enough improvement to want to stick with it.

I'm also exercising now (p90x3, which is awesome considering I'm a total couch potato) and that's helped a lot as well. I actually feel *better* than before my anxiety even started, before I even took the Abilify that messed me up in the first place.

I'm almost at the six-month mark at which Hanino, the OP, cut down his dosages to every other day (and I believe, eventually, a couple times a week)--I haven't decided yet how or if I'll cut back my own doses, but I'll keep updating as often as I can, for others who come across this thread. It helped me so much and I would be remiss to not pay it forward.

Best of luck to everyone,
Taylor

[JohnC]

I am going to try this, but I am already taking protein that contains all the Amino Acids that are in the TwinLabs Amino Fuel. Should I just take the L Glutamine and Magnesium Chloride along with my protein? Or do I need to take the Amino Fuel as well?

I stumbled across this while doing a little googlinghttp://aminoacidinformation.com/beware-glutamine-may-cause-cancer-grow/
This was put out by OHIO state university, James center ( very well respected )

[Dahila]

All this is placebo effect, no mangnesium or vitamin cure anything they may help, but if you have a good diet you should not have deficiency:)

[JohnC]

All this is placebo effect, no mangnesium or vitamin cure anything they may help, but if you have a good diet you should not have deficiency:)

I debated if I should even post that or not. I did not want to send 50 people into an anxiety attack but I also felt compelled to post it because I know where the study was done and it is not a fly by night place. I myself only take vitamin D3 because I do not get enough sun, almost zero in the winter time. I have no windows in my office and I leave when it's dark and get home when it's dark. I was just googling some of the info that was on that thread to see if there was any other research on it. Shit, I hope i did not upset a bunch of people. Just thought I was helping.

[snowberry]

Man, pretty much everything has been linked to cancer by now. Until there is a direct link between the two then I wouldn't worry too much about it - not that there is anything wrong with posting a link to different information, it is good for people to be informed.

I have just taken my second magnesium tablet of the day (turns out I had a virus which is why I got shaky last time - just really bad timing,) so I will see if this does indeed help my mood. I am sceptical so I doubt there will be any placebo effect.

[Dahila]

John vitamine d3 is the only one I take, and I cut it down cause I am getting out more. :) I am trying to say that big pharma pays for the research and if it is not in their favor they kill it..

[JohnC]

I agree 100% with you on that. I actually have a strong dislike for the pharmacological crap myself. They do have some I have needed at times ( Xanax when needed ). Chantix right now. I managed to get off the paxil after a very long time. Doc. say's my testosterone is way low and should be on a testosterone replacement. Way to much money! I'll just keep randomly crying over really stupid shit. I guess I am going through Man-O-Pause. LOL

[Dahila]

John if you looking for advice use the natural testerone some plants deliver it to the body. Do you not let the f*****ng doc to put you on hormon teraphy. It does more harm that benefit.
With the magnesium all the propaganda sounds to good for me. :)

[JohnC]

Not happening, No way in hell my family can afford it anyhow. However I must admit that when a live off the land, kill and butcher my own food, Harvest my own crops kind a guy cries at stuff like a comedy called my cousin vinnie is very demasculating for lack of a better word. No worries though, it's allergy season. LoL

[kthotti]

What mg did you take, and are you on any other supplements or medications? It could just be an interaction issue. Everything I've heard/read indicates that magnesium is safe, and that if you take too much at once your body will let you know (I've only heard of people getting tummy troubles, but shakiness/dizziness could be an indicator too I suppose).

Also, for anyone who's interested: I've been on this regimen now (30 mL Amino Fuel, 1 tsp glutamine powder, and 250 mg magnesium in the morning and another right before bed) since November, and I feel 99.99% back to my old self. In fact, the only reason I feel like it's not 100% is because I simply have the memory of the panic attacks--kind of a PTSD thing, I suppose--and occasionally I get little mild twinges of anxiety, which makes me paranoid another episode will happen. But it never does. :)

I was able to plan my wedding and get married--and the only stress I felt was normal wedding stress. No anxiety attacks, no depression. I actually had FUN planning, and our wedding day was everything I could have possibly imagined and more (last year I was dreading it, thinking for sure I'd be in full-blown panic mode the entire day). I'm now enjoying life with my new husband and our wonderful daughter. I have my life back, and it's even better now because I appreciate every day so much more.

To anyone reading who's debating trying this--if you aren't on any meds (I think you have to be off them at least six weeks), do the regimen. Give it a month--though I felt the difference immediately--and I'm positive you'll see enough improvement to want to stick with it.

I'm also exercising now (p90x3, which is awesome considering I'm a total couch potato) and that's helped a lot as well. I actually feel *better* than before my anxiety even started, before I even took the Abilify that messed me up in the first place.

I'm almost at the six-month mark at which Hanino, the OP, cut down his dosages to every other day (and I believe, eventually, a couple times a week)--I haven't decided yet how or if I'll cut back my own doses, but I'll keep updating as often as I can, for others who come across this thread. It helped me so much and I would be remiss to not pay it forward.

Best of luck to everyone,
Taylor


Hi,What amino fuel did you take?

[kthotti]

I renamed this post Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety to clear up any confusion.

I suffered with anxiety for 12 years. My doctor told me I had GAD and panic attacks. I had all the usual symptoms, I don’t want to list them all here but if it was anxiety related I had it as you can imagine of suffering for 12 years. My doctor gave me the usual gamut of meds some worked while others didn’t the meds that worked didn’t work for long so it was on to the next pill. Therapy didn’t help either it was either listening to people talk about the same thing I was experiencing or it was my doctor just basically asking me how I felt and writing it all down and giving me ides on ways on how to deal with it. I got fed up with meds so I stopped taking them all together. I knew there had to be an answer to my conditions. So I went to the Internet to get answers. I ran across a page that talked about the Mind, Anxiety and Serotonin (published by a few Doctors and Researchers) and the use of Amino Acid for anxiety (I remembered learning about AAs in 9th grade they are the building blocks of proteins), which started to clue me in. So I started searching for Mental Health and Amino Acid I found another page that talked about Amino Acid and Magnesium Chloride, viola I found my answer to my anxiety problems, 5 minutes later I was at my local health food store buying some Amino Acid and Magnesium. When I started taking the Amino Acid and Magnesium it didn’t take long to be free from anxiety. I was better in two weeks and that’s been 11 months ago so I have been completely anxiety free for almost a year now. From what I have read most people have a Magnesium deficiency not to mention other vitamins and minerals deficiencies from which a whole host of problems can arise from. I took the Amino Acids and Magnesium once a day for 6 months now I take it once or twice a week. The particular Amino Acids that I take have most of the B vitamins in it, the B vitamins are needed for a few of the Amino Acids to Cross the Blood Brain Barrier and vica versa. There are two things that the brain uses as fuel for energy one is Sugar and the other is L Glutamine. Anyone interested in this Google mental health and Amino Acid and mental health and Magnesium. Amino Acids are absolutely essential for proper brain function without them the brain breaks down and the rest of the body as well, that’s why there is so much bodily pain associated with anxiety. Thanks for reading, if you would like info on the stuff that I take feel free to message me

This is also good for Panic Attacks Depression and PTSD

Best Regards Hanino..

Hi i Have severe palpitations and confusion and always cry.I have haerniated disk and sciatica. Dr prescribed painkiller and flexiril as MR, Can I take amino acids and magnesium,if Okay what type and brand? Please help me I am confused

[kthotti]

Amino acid - pill or fuel could somebody help??????????

[tayloraine]

Hi,What amino fuel did you take?

Hi :) I use twinlabs amino fuel lean muscle formula. it's a liquid, and very thick. the OP said they expect the liquid works better than pills for absorption reasons. fair warning: the liquid does not taste that great, haha. i prefer the orange flavor to the berry, personally.

[tayloraine]

Hi i Have severe palpitations and confusion and always cry.I have haerniated disk and sciatica. Dr prescribed painkiller and flexiril as MR, Can I take amino acids and magnesium,if Okay what type and brand? Please help me I am confused

I would ask your doctor if he or she thinks the supplements will interact with your current medications, just to be safe. I'm only taking the supplements now--I even went off birth control, because it made my anxiety worse--so I don't have experience with this regimen and medications.

The brands I use are Twinlabs Amino Fuel Lean Muscle Liquid (30 mL), Vitamin Shoppe brand magnesium citrate (200 mg twice or thrice a day, though I used to take 250 mg till they changed the mg for some reason), and Vitamin Shoppe Brand l-glutamine powder (1 tsp dissolved in water). I take the liquid, a magnesium, and the powder first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, then wait an hour before eating or drinking anything. I also take another magnesium at night right before bed, and used to take magnesium any time I felt panicky (I don't anymore--no panic attacks in over two months now!). I had the same symptoms as you too, palpitations (and tachycardia, which I have inherently but in a panic attack it was much more painful), confusion, crying...I honestly thought I would be this way till the day I died. But within one day of starting the regimen, I felt better. One month later and I was 50% improved overall, and now (about six months later) I'm 99.99% better, and only get faint "twinges"--little one-second feelings of panic--very occasionally, but personally I think that's more like PTSD/remembering the panic attacks.

If your doctor gives you the go ahead, try the regimen! It changed my life and I thank God every day (literally) for guiding me to this thread.

[kthotti]

Thanks Tayloraine. I tried to take magnesium I felt sleepy and heavy head immediately for 250mg why? Will it take 6 months to be cured?

Please can you answer for this please?

[kthotti]

Does amino acid increase weight?

[tayloraine]

Thanks Tayloraine. I tried to take magnesium I felt sleepy and heavy head immediately for 250mg why? Will it take 6 months to be cured?

Please can you answer for this please?

No problem :)

Magnesium is naturally relaxing, which makes it great for panic sufferers and overall health, but that means some people also get sleepy after taking it (like my brother, who only uses it at night for that reason). For me, it stopped making me sleepy after a couple weeks, so I'd wait it out and see if you notice improvement. You could also try taking a lower dose in the morning and using a high dose at night. Just my opinion, do what works best for you!

Hanino, the original poster for this thread, said he took the regimen daily until about the six-month mark, and then started taking it just a few times a week--but that he was "cured" before that. For me, I saw huge improvements immediately. The first day I took it, I felt a difference. By the end of the first week, I felt even better. I'd say I felt "cured" 4 months in, but I was getting better every week and could feel it.

My particular anxiety came in days-long episodes, where for 3-10 days for no reason, I'd feel constantly anxious, depressed, and panicky, and within those days I'd get panic attacks on top of it all. I also had strange physical symptoms during those days--dark urine, headaches, stuffy nose, upset stomach, fever and chills...it was ridiculous. No doctor could figure out what was wrong with me--especially since I was completely normal between the episodes, sometimes even happier than usual (which I later learned was mania).

Finally, a doctor who listened and a few good Google searches led me to the problem: I had quit Abilify (taken for compulsive hair-pulling, for only two months) cold-turkey in January 2012, when all my symptoms and anxiety started. I had never had panic attacks in my life until that. My doctor called it "pharmacologically induced bipolar and panic disorders;" another called it PAWS (post-acute withdrawal syndrome). They both mean the same thing: my brain's neurotransmitters were not working properly anymore, and were actually depleted. This is why I believe Hanino's regimen worked for me--it gave my body and brain everything it needed to restore my brain's normal function, and it also helped my hormones level out after the birth of my child in Dec. 2012, when my "episodes" became worse than ever because of postpartum depression.

So, long story short, I felt the healing happening very quickly, and about two months ago I had a mild, two-minute anxiety attack--and none since. I get occasional twinges where I feel panicky, but like I've said before I think that's like PTSD...just me remembering those old feelings, since honestly that time in my life was traumatizing in many ways.

Everyone's different, so I don't know how long it will be before you consider yourself cured if this works for you (it seems to have worked for almost all of the people on this thread!) Even if your anxiety, unlike mine which was new to me, is something you've struggled with a long time, there's still a good chance it could improve/go away very fast--Hanino and others in the thread have mentioned feeling better in a few days, and 100% around one month.

I hope the regimen works for you! Just give it a fair shot and stick with it--I was skeptical when I started but I'm SO happy I went for it!

[tayloraine]

Does amino acid increase weight?

It didn't for me--in fact, I've lost over 20 lbs since I started this regimen, 15 or so without changing anything about my diet or exercise (like I said in my previous post, I think the supplements helped my body regulate my hormones again after having my daughter). I think amino acids, when body builders use them, are meant for muscle regeneration, not bulking up like those protein powders you see in the big barrels in GNC/Vitamin Shoppe and such.

There's less than 100 calories in 30 mL of the Amino Fuel (at least the kind I take), and 15 g of protein--I wouldn't worry about bulking up ;) Good question though, because I worried endlessly about the same thing. That's actually why I bought the Lean Muscle variety, haha!

[tayloraine]

Oh, I should add one more thing: I don't know if you use alcohol or caffeine, but I would consider giving them up for a few months until you see how the supplements affect you. For me, they greatly worsened everything and seemed to counteract the good the regimen was doing. Now I can enjoy some caffeine and alcohol in moderation (once or twice a week, tops), but for the first few months I was very sensitive to it.

Of course, that might be because of my withdrawal from Abilify--my nervous system being overly sensitive to stimulants and depressants. So those things might not have any negative effect for others. If you don't already, maybe keeping a log of your emotions each day would help. I started doing this about two months before the regimen, and it helped me a LOT in terms of figuring out what was working for me and what wasn't. Just a thought :) Good luck and keep us posted!

[tayloraine]

All this is placebo effect, no mangnesium or vitamin cure anything they may help, but if you have a good diet you should not have deficiency:)

Dahila, I'm sorry but I have to disagree. While placebo effect can be a very real thing for some, these particular supplements Hanino suggested have worked wonders for many on this thread, including myself. True, no one knows for sure what causes anxiety or depression--if the whole neurotransmitter thing is true or just a wild guess, though doctors like to act like it's proven instead of just a theory--but my life has completely changed since using the aminos, magnesium and l-glutamine. I started getting anxiety attacks and extreme depression after quitting Abilify cold-turkey in Jan. 2012, and for nearly two years no doctor could figure out what was wrong. I *knew* it was the Abilify that had done this to me, because I was taking it for compulsive hair-pulling. Not a mood disorder. I'd never had a panic attack in my life until the day after I quit that nasty drug.

I tried tons of supplements, terrified of any prescription meds after that, and none worked beyond the placebo effect you're speaking of, for a day or two at best. But within a month of the regimen Hanino posted, I felt 50% better. Four months later I had my last panic attack, and haven't had one since. (For the record, I'm not against rX meds--if they help you, that's great. I just think they're prescribed too flippantly, not monitored closely enough, and do more harm than good for most people. I also know, however, that many owe their life to them, and I respect everyone's freedom to choose the treatment they feel is best for themselves. The point of this thread, at least I assume so, was to offer an alternative to those who didn't want or couldn't take rX drugs anymore).

Will it work for everyone? Of course not. But it could very well work for most. I believe anxiety is a symptom, not its own illness, and it makes sense that (with the exception of "anxious thinking") it could cure the root cause of anxiety, if that root is linked to any kind of imbalance or deficiency. Which you did touch upon. I totally agree, a good diet is important--for the same reason these supplements can and do work: they give the body, and therefore our brain, what it needs to function at its best.

Sorry if I misunderstood what you meant somehow, or if I came across as mean or something--definitely not trying to! Just respectfully disagreeing. :) This regimen has completely changed me for the better. I'm back to who I was before the Abilify took my life away, and finally able to be the mom I couldn't be the first eight months of my daughter's life. I cried from happiness when I realized it had been one week since I'd had a panic attack, then two weeks, then a month...and now two months; when I realized I was planning my wedding and actually *excited*; when I was able to care for my baby in the mornings instead of crying in the shower through another episode. That can't possibly be chalked up to placebo. :)

[Mark A. Camacho]

Hey everyone my name is Mark A. Camacho and my age is 40 and I am suffering from the problem of panic attack from the last 5 years and my problem is getting severe with the passage of time

[Mark A. Camacho]

I have been taking vitamin B as well but these vitamins don't lead to any solution and my problem is getting severe and severe.

[JohnC]

Hi Mark,
Welcome to the forum. Have ever been to a doctor and or been prescribed any meds at all? Are you having just panic attack or anxiety and panic attacks.

[kthotti]

No problem :)

Magnesium is naturally relaxing, which makes it great for panic sufferers and overall health, but that means some people also get sleepy after taking it (like my brother, who only uses it at night for that reason). For me, it stopped making me sleepy after a couple weeks, so I'd wait it out and see if you notice improvement. You could also try taking a lower dose in the morning and using a high dose at night. Just my opinion, do what works best for you!

Hanino, the original poster for this thread, said he took the regimen daily until about the six-month mark, and then started taking it just a few times a week--but that he was "cured" before that. For me, I saw huge improvements immediately. The first day I took it, I felt a difference. By the end of the first week, I felt even better. I'd say I felt "cured" 4 months in, but I was getting better every week and could feel it.

My particular anxiety came in days-long episodes, where for 3-10 days for no reason, I'd feel constantly anxious, depressed, and panicky, and within those days I'd get panic attacks on top of it all. I also had strange physical symptoms during those days--dark urine, headaches, stuffy nose, upset stomach, fever and chills...it was ridiculous. No doctor could figure out what was wrong with me--especially since I was completely normal between the episodes, sometimes even happier than usual (which I later learned was mania).

Finally, a doctor who listened and a few good Google searches led me to the problem: I had quit Abilify (taken for compulsive hair-pulling, for only two months) cold-turkey in January 2012, when all my symptoms and anxiety started. I had never had panic attacks in my life until that. My doctor called it "pharmacologically induced bipolar and panic disorders;" another called it PAWS (post-acute withdrawal syndrome). They both mean the same thing: my brain's neurotransmitters were not working properly anymore, and were actually depleted. This is why I believe Hanino's regimen worked for me--it gave my body and brain everything it needed to restore my brain's normal function, and it also helped my hormones level out after the birth of my child in Dec. 2012, when my "episodes" became worse than ever because of postpartum depression.

So, long story short, I felt the healing happening very quickly, and about two months ago I had a mild, two-minute anxiety attack--and none since. I get occasional twinges where I feel panicky, but like I've said before I think that's like PTSD...just me remembering those old feelings, since honestly that time in my life was traumatizing in many ways.

Everyone's different, so I don't know how long it will be before you consider yourself cured if this works for you (it seems to have worked for almost all of the people on this thread!) Even if your anxiety, unlike mine which was new to me, is something you've struggled with a long time, there's still a good chance it could improve/go away very fast--Hanino and others in the thread have mentioned feeling better in a few days, and 100% around one month.

I hope the regimen works for you! Just give it a fair shot and stick with it--I was skeptical when I started but I'm SO happy I went for it!

Thanks for the reply Tayloraine. I have some more questions. Sorry for the trouble. Is amino acid fuel better than pills or not? I saw free form amino acid pills in the market but it had little less mg , is that okay? Can I take amino acid pills in the am and magnesium in the pm

Thanks

[tayloraine]

Thanks for the reply Tayloraine. I have some more questions. Sorry for the trouble. Is amino acid fuel better than pills or not? I saw free form amino acid pills in the market but it had little less mg , is that okay? Can I take amino acid pills in the am and magnesium in the pm

Thanks

No trouble at all, I'm more than happy to help! Do you mean is the brand Amino Fuel better than others, or is the liquid better than the pill? Either way I think you'll benefit from any form you take, as long as you aren't taking one kind of amino but rather a formula with a blend of many/all the aminos, because they work together. In my experience, any time I took one amino acid/precursors (esp 5-htp) in isolation, it made everything worse. But taking the blend has been nothing but beneficial for me, even though it contains the same ingredients I took before--the difference is that I'm taking them all at the same time now.

I've only tried the TwinLabs Amino Fuel formula, so I can't say for sure if one brand is better than another. The mg difference probably won't matter if it's not a huge difference, esp. because the OP Hanino advocated taking less than what the bottle recommends (one ounce is what he took, I believe, and the bottle recommends a little more than that for muscle recovery post-workouts), so in actuality the mg were lower for him than the bottle stated, and he still saw great results.

The only reason I think liquid would be better than pills is for absorption reasons, but that's just a theory; it could work just as well.

I'm not sure if taking the magnesium at night would produce the same results as others on this site or not, i.e. if the mag, l-glutamine powder, and amino acid blend have a kind of synergy going where they work best together. Hanino said he believed they did, and that the combination of these supplements and not necessarily the supplements themselves, was the most important reason the regimen works. So by that belief, magnesium should be taken in the morning with the other 2 supplements. But it certainly couldn't hurt to try. :) If in a few weeks you aren't seeing the improvement you want, but you feel your body's adjusted better to the magnesium, you could try adding it in the morning. Like I said, I take it all in the morning, but I also take a mag at night. It doesn't make me drowsy anymore but helps me sleep more soundly through the night. I think it relaxes my muscles...I used to be a very twitchy sleeper, haha.

If I *had* to recommend a way to go in choosing supplements and how to take them, I'd recommend the way I do it, which is the way Hanino outlined--but I haven't tried any other way, so it could still work with the variations you're thinking about using. Give it a shot if you want and track your symptoms for the next few weeks, and if you see improvements, stick with it! If not, you can always tweak the amounts, brands/types, times of day you take them, etc. until you're happy with the results.

Will you be taking l-glutamine powder too? Hanino stressed its importance, I can't remember why but he posted some medical info on why it was important...I remember thinking, eh I can skip that one...I saw improvement without it for about ten days, but once I finally added it to the routine I felt a HUGE improvement. I think they all work best together.

[tayloraine]

Mark:

Vitamin B, for me at least, always made my anxiety worse. I might feel better initially, like a burst of energy, but then it would turn into jitteriness...have you tried/are you considering trying the supplement regimen outlined in this thread (~1 oz TwinLab Amino Fuel, 1 tsp l-glutamine powder dissolved in some water, and 250 mg or so of magnesium, every morning on an empty stomach)? If you aren't currently on meds, I strongly urge you to pause the B-vitamins and try Hanino's (the OP) suggestions. I had panic attacks and depression in severe, episodic spurts for 2 years, and in the last six months since starting those supplements I've felt like my old self again--no panic attacks in 2 months, and only mild ones before that.

I don't know if it will work for everyone, but I believe, based on the theories as to why the regimen works, it could work for most. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and feel free to ask any questions! :)

[Mark A. Camacho]

hey JohnC thanks a lot for your effort...Yes I have been to a doctor and on his advice I started to take Vitamin B but they dont resolve my problem of panic attack and as I mention before my panic attack is getting severe.

[Mark A. Camacho]

heyy Tayloraine! I really appreciate your effort and I have heard about the medicine which you are telling me but the doctor haven't prescribe me yet!As soon as he will prescribe me I am going to use this medicine. BTW thanks a lot for your suggestion.

[HRPOWER]

Both made me worse..

[tayloraine]

heyy Tayloraine! I really appreciate your effort and I have heard about the medicine which you are telling me but the doctor haven't prescribe me yet!As soon as he will prescribe me I am going to use this medicine. BTW thanks a lot for your suggestion.

The supplements, you mean? They're just vitamins and available without a prescription at places like Vitamin Shoppe, GNC, or online through Amazon and other places--if you're interested in trying it, of course. :) I would never tell anyone to go off their medication or not use prescriptions if they truly feel they're benefitting from them. BUt if you want to try something more natural, I do HIGHLY suggest the regimen described in this thread. I was like you, getting desperate--I didn't know how I could keep living my life this way, waking up with jolting panic, crying jags all day that kept me from caring for my daughter the way I wanted, anxiety that was straining my relationship with my husband, and a host of physical problems (darkened urine, vomiting, headaches, etc.).

I was so desperate that I finally caved and let my doctor prescribe me an antidepressant and Xanax. I even filled the prescriptions. The night I was going to start taking them, I was googling frantically--trying to find ANYTHING i hadn't tried yet that could help me, instead of pills. Again--not against medication, it just wasn't for me, since I was convinced (and definitely am, now) taking Abilify for my compulsive hair pulling 2 years ago is what started my anxiety and depression. I'd had no mood disorders or panic prior to that drug, so of course I was terrified to take more drugs to fix the issue. I also come from a long line of addicts, and I knew the odds of becoming dependent on Xanax were very high for me--it just didn't seem worth it, but as I said, I was desperate. Like, live or die kind of desperate.

Then I found this thread, and I shoved my prescriptions into a drawer, went to Vitamin Shoppe for the Amino Fuel and magnesium (I added the l-glutamine powder a few days later), and never looked back. I started getting better immediately, and a month later I threw out my filled--but completely unused--prescriptions.

By no means am I saying these vitamins will work for everyone, but I've said many times on this thread that I believe they will work for most. If you have access to these supplements, you should definitely give them a try. :) Best of luck--I hope you find relief very soon. I haven't had a panic attack in months, but that memory sticks with you a while so I know what you're going through.

[tayloraine]

Magnesium Doubled My Anxiety.... at least.... I am on paroxetine... be v careful.

Hi, HR-

Magnesium and amino acids (and the l-glutamine powder) could still help you, but I'm thinking if they made you worse it could be a reaction with your paroxetine. I'm not a doctor so I can't say for sure, but the OP Hanino mentioned that possibility and suggested avoiding these supplements until you've been off your meds at least six weeks, if I remember correctly. If you feel the paroxetine is helping you, stick with it, but if you're tapering or thinking of tapering off soon, you could introduce the supplements again when you've finished the taper.

If you are interested in going off Paxil, I found this site called paxilprogress.org when I was trying to find information about my Abilify withdrawal. I did it cold-turkey, not knowing better, and that's what started my anxiety and depression (I'd had neither before that--I was only taking Abilify for 2 months, for compulsive hair-pulling). Anyway, like I said if you're doing well on Paxil and want to stick with it, by all means do. I'm against meds for myself but I know they help others, too. I'm just saying *if* you go off the Paxil at some point in the future, it'd be worth it to give the supplements another shot. Best of luck :)

[MikesJewel]

Hello everyone. I am new to the forum and have to say that I am so relieved to find this. I have struggled with anxiety/depression for many, many years. Like most all the posts I have read, have been on medication after medication. Right now I am on Welbutrin. (sp ?) A couple of months ago, I tried to stop, but after about 5 weeks, the tense, anxious feelings came. They are constant. . .with shakes resulting in my poor husband getting the brunt of my outbursts of frustration. Then depression sets in because I do not want to be this way. So, I am back on the med and my husband isn't afraid to be around me again.

Something fairly recent, the past few years, about every three weeks I wake up in the middle of the night sweating profusely. It is only a couple nights with sweats, but for about three days I live in total fear. I cannot be alone or I feel like I am literally going to die. My heart races and there is a 'pit' in my stomach. Since I am 50, I had thought it was hormonal, but after six months on estrogen, hormones are all leveled out and still on a schedule, the night sweats and fear. It just isn't a good thing to have to be babysat at age 50. . . Doctors do not know what is wrong with me and want me to go to a psychologist. . . I had gone to one many years ago who told me that I just have an embalance (sp?) I agree with others who have done this and it's the same thing, talk about the same thing and listen to the same ideas to cope along with prescribing medication. . .

I desparately want off chemicals. Just this past weekend I visited with a naturalist regarding my condition, he told me about the B vitamins and I immediately rushed to a Natural Store to begin my new treatment. After stumbling onto this thread, and reading about the Magnesium and Amino Acids, I am going back to the Natural Store with high hopes that this is my answer. . .My question is, should I stop the Welbutrin immediatley or is it ok to take all together as I wean off?

Thank you so much for your help. . .
MikesJewel

[tayloraine]

Hello everyone. I am new to the forum and have to say that I am so relieved to find this. I have struggled with anxiety/depression for many, many years. Like most all the posts I have read, have been on medication after medication. Right now I am on Welbutrin. (sp ?) A couple of months ago, I tried to stop, but after about 5 weeks, the tense, anxious feelings came. They are constant. . .with shakes resulting in my poor husband getting the brunt of my outbursts of frustration. Then depression sets in because I do not want to be this way. So, I am back on the med and my husband isn't afraid to be around me again.

Something fairly recent, the past few years, about every three weeks I wake up in the middle of the night sweating profusely. It is only a couple nights with sweats, but for about three days I live in total fear. I cannot be alone or I feel like I am literally going to die. My heart races and there is a 'pit' in my stomach. Since I am 50, I had thought it was hormonal, but after six months on estrogen, hormones are all leveled out and still on a schedule, the night sweats and fear. It just isn't a good thing to have to be babysat at age 50. . . Doctors do not know what is wrong with me and want me to go to a psychologist. . . I had gone to one many years ago who told me that I just have an embalance (sp?) I agree with others who have done this and it's the same thing, talk about the same thing and listen to the same ideas to cope along with prescribing medication. . .

I desparately want off chemicals. Just this past weekend I visited with a naturalist regarding my condition, he told me about the B vitamins and I immediately rushed to a Natural Store to begin my new treatment. After stumbling onto this thread, and reading about the Magnesium and Amino Acids, I am going back to the Natural Store with high hopes that this is my answer. . .My question is, should I stop the Welbutrin immediatley or is it ok to take all together as I wean off?

Thank you so much for your help. . .
MikesJewel



Hi, MikesJewel! First, welcome to the forum.

Second, what you're describing sounds similar to what I went through when I quit Abilify--intense panic, depression, weird and sometimes debilitating physical symptoms--and is known as Protracted or Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (also known as discontinuation syndrome and a host of other names). For some people, quitting a drug--psychiatric drugs, benzos, alcohol, etc.--is easy. They just stop and they're done. But for others, symptoms start a few days to weeks after stopping the drug, and can continue for months or for some, as with me, years; it happens in a pattern known as "windows and waves" in which a person feels the intense symptoms of stopping the drug for days at a time, with periods of normalcy, and over time the windows--feeling good--gets longer and longer, until eventually they're normal again. The community of people suffering with PAWS believes "waves," feeling bad, is the brain trying to restore its natural neurotransmitter activity after the drug(s) altered it.

This theory makes sense to me, which is why I decided to try the Amino Fuel, magnesium and l-glutamine powder regimen on this thread. Hanino, the original poster, pointed out that it gives the body--and therefore the brain--a good balance of everything that *should* be in our diets, but in this day and age just can't always be met. The body can pick what it needs and balance out our brains again.

Again, that's just a theory, but after two years of suffering from withdrawal symptoms after quitting Abilify, this regimen made me feel normal again. Better than normal--happy and stable! I was fortunate in that I have no pre-existing mood disorder (I was taking Abilify for compulsive hair-pulling, not depression or bipolar or anything like that), so I knew all along--even when doctors doubted it--that Abilify had done this to me, but for some it does become hard to distinguish the effects of the drug from the illness they took the drug for in the first place--hence they reinstate, as you did, fearing their condition for treatment became worse, when really it's the drug withdrawal causing that.

(Note: when I say "withdrawal" I don't mean it like an addiction. I just mean our brains have come to rely on these psychiatric drugs to function, and when they're taken away, we get depression, anxiety, etc. worse than before).

Anyway. I'm sorry you're having a hard time with the Wellbutrin. :( But you're doing research and that's great, something I wish I'd done before quitting Abilify cold turkey; the slower your taper, the easier time you'll have getting off the drug overall.

I'm not sure if you can take this regimen while tapering your Wellbutrin. Instinctively, I'd say no, because you'd be giving your brain the building blocks for neurotransmitters that Wellbutrin might be effecting simultaneously. That said, introducing the regimen slowly, toward the end of your Wellbutrin taper, might help alleviate any withdrawal symptoms you face later on.

Check out the site paxilprogress.org--it helped me a LOT when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me, and there are lots of stories from people who have tapered/are still tapering. You can even search the site and find others specifically on Wellbutrin tapers. Also, keep in touch with your doctor throughout your taper, and let them know you want to do it very slowly. Slowly, to a doctor, can mean over a few weeks--you want to taper over a period of months or even up to two years, depending on your current dosage and how intense your symptoms are each time you step down the dosage. That will hopefully make the process easier. Overall, do what feels best for YOU.

PS: I used to get the night sweats too! I'm 24 so I knew it wasn't menopause, but I thought it was something hormonal since I'd given birth about 10 months after I cold-turkeyed the Abilify and all my panic/anxiety started. All my tests came back normal, though. I never did figure out what was causing it, but it hasn't happened since I started this regimen :) Best of luck in whatever you decide to do! I wish I could help more, i.e. give you a specific tapering/supplement schedule, but I don't know enough about medicine or you personally to do that. :/ One thing I can say for sure is it DOES get better. Just hang in there :)

[Dahila]

I do not want to rain on your parade, but my psychiatrist advice against taking additional magnesium. She believes it works like placebo on people. I do to. Big pharma is selling it and pays for the research which is always in their favor. Is not?

[tayloraine]

I do not want to rain on your parade, but my psychiatrist advice against taking additional magnesium. She believes it works like placebo on people. I do to. Big pharma is selling it and pays for the research which is always in their favor. Is not?

Your psychiatrist, who receives promotional items from pharmaceutical companies and makes his/her living prescribing those companies' medications, is against a natural mineral--and claims big pharma is selling it and funding its research? You *have* to be joking.

If you're not...I don't even know where to begin in correcting you.

And no. It's not placebo. Independent research--not funded by companies, but rather universities and facilities who have nothing to gain personally from the research--has proven that magnesium relaxes muscles, aids sleep, improves cellular function throughout the body...I mean, did you not take biology in high school?

The only reason I can see a psychiatrist saying not to take magnesium is if it would interact with current medications, or if a person has a medical condition that excess magnesium could exacerbate. Not the reasons you've stated. Get a new psychiatrist because it sounds like yours has a hidden agenda, or is just plain dumb--either way, not worth entrusting your treatment to them, in my opinion. Sorry to be snarky but that was just ridiculous.

[tayloraine]

Really didn't mean to sound as mean as I did. I just can't believe a medical professional would say that to someone.

Look, bottom line--this post was a godsend to me. The supplements just WORK. I truly believe they can help almost everyone who tries them, along with necessary lifestyle changes (exercise, proper diet, etc.), as I felt my life do a complete 180 after starting this regimen. And for the first time in two years, I want to take care of myself with healthy choices and positive thinking--I believe the supplements the OP posted about when he started this thread made me well enough to make those changes, and further improve my life.

If you don't want to try magnesium and would rather stick with your current meds or treatment, that's totally okay. I'm not against prescriptions medication--lithium saved my older brother's life when his bipolar disorder was at its worst. I know they help a lot of people. But I think they hurt a lot of people too. And in the case of anxiety, I believe it's not its own illness, but rather a symptom that can apply to many illnesses/imbalances. Hanino's self-treatment with Amino Fuel, magnesium and l-glutamine powder makes sense in that, if one's anxiety is caused by an imbalance--whether it's poor diet or in my case, a reaction to prior psychiatric medication--these supplements give the body everything it needs, in a balanced formula, to restore that balance on its own, in time.

Anyway. That's just my opinion, because these supplements worked for me. They still work--no anxiety in two months, after 2 years of suffering. I mean really, truly suffering. Like, I wanted to die kind of suffering, or abandon my family because I couldn't stand the person I had become and thought my fiance and daughter would be better off, kind of suffering. And now I'm happy. I don't sit weeping on the bathroom floor, rocking back and forth, just begging God to put an end to my suffering even if it meant dying; I don't panic over stupid things like my phone dying in the middle of a call, or driving at night; I don't have hair falling out and nausea for no reason, thin brittle nails or aching muscles. Now, I sing in the shower. I knit, read, write, and play with my baby girl. I curl up with my husband every night and thank God for leading me to this thread and to these supplements, so that I could be who I was before I took Abilify, before anxiety ever touched me. In fact, I think I'm better off than I was before--because I appreciate the little things about my life even more.

Is that placebo? No way. So I'm sorry if I sounded mean in my last post, I didn't want to come across that way at all. I just really believe in this stuff, and I hate the thought of someone coming here looking for answers, the way I did in November, and comments like that causing doubt about whether this regimen will work--like I've said before, I think it would work for most people. And when I say most, I honestly mean almost everyone who tries it. It depends on what's causing your anxiety, I guess, but doesn't this regimen--based on the ingredients and what we know about the brain--seem like a great place to start? It operates on the same principle as the anti-depressants doctors tried to give me for my anxiety: fixing an imbalance. The difference is, ADs would change how my brain used neurotransmitters, which in the long term would slow my brain's production of those neurotransmitters, because they'd be hanging out in the synapses longer (in theory, obviously I'm not a doctor, but that would certainly explain the phenomenon of protracted withdrawal syndrome). This regimen gives the body, and therefore the brain, the materials it needs to make MORE of those neurotransmitters, theoretically restoring the imbalance.

If you're comfortable with your current treatment, that's wonderful and I'm glad you've found something that works for you. But part of me wonders if you are happy with it, because why would you be reading this thread? Anyway. Sorry for the novella. I don't agree at all that any of this is placebo effect--it worked for me, it changed my life, and I want to let others know so they can try it too.

[Capris]

Hello! Ive been reading this thread for some days now and decided to register to ask some questions. I did some googling and have found the connection of magnesium with anxiety and to be honest, more medical issues, like it stops muscle spasms. Anyways.

I dont think i have access to the supplements mentioned in this thread. I trust solgar and found that they too have amino acids and magnesium products. But before i go there, i am confused with types of magnesium that are out there. Any reliable source about which one is good for anxiety? i was fixed on taking the chloride, now i find this " magnesium taurate" that sasy it helps with anxiety too. Argh im confused!

I found an interesting article that sort of explains the types of magnesium , i dont think i can post a link , the article is called "The Definitive Guide To Magnesium & Magnesium Supplements". It doesnt have taurate listed though.

Well those are my first questions about magnesium. I'll follow up on the other supplements, once i get this one tackled!

Thanks in advance!

[JohnC]

Hi Capris,
Welcome to the forum. They say to use High Absorption CHELATED Magnesium.

[sean17]

will give them ago thanks

[sean17]

just started taking them today

[sean17]

Hi Hanino sorry to bother you but how long did it take for Amino Acids and Magnesium to start working as i have just started talking them for my anxiety thanks

[MAM090982]

What were your symptoms before the Amino Acids and Magnesium. I heard Calcium and Potassium play a role. I would love the stuff to read about and get rid of Anxiety and all of my symptoms.

[MAM090982]

I am taking B12 right now, but should I be taking something with all the B vitamins. I also take a Vitamin D drop, and Natural calm to even out my magnesium and calcium, which goes in my water.

[sean17]

My Main Symptoms were twitchiness dizziness/light headed and tiredness i have been taking them for 3 days and i can feel the differences my twitchiness has gone i feel alot better i recommend them

[Aimseykins]

I bought Max-Aminos yesterday and both times I took them (yesterday, two capsules and today, one) I have ended up with MONSTER headaches. Has anyone else taking this experienced this after taking them?

[sean17]

i get headaches of them

[tayloraine]

Thanks for the reply Tayloraine. I have some more questions. Sorry for the trouble. Is amino acid fuel better than pills or not? I saw free form amino acid pills in the market but it had little less mg , is that okay? Can I take amino acid pills in the am and magnesium in the pm

Thanks

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I forget to log on now and then :/ To be honest, I'm not sure if the liquid is better than pills, or if magnesium has to be taken at the same time as the aminos and L-glutamine powder to be effective. I'm sure you'd still see benefits regardless. I just follow the original poster's regimen to a T because I wanted to make sure it worked, and he believed the liquid would allow for better absorption in the intestine, and that the mag and l-glutamine should be taken with the amino fuel to utilize their possible synergy.

If you can, I'd follow the regimen his way--all in the morning at the same time, with the liquid Amino Fuel (I also take a magnesium or two at bedtime, because it helps me sleep and seemed to fully stop my morning panic)--but if all you can find is the pills, and if magnesium makes you too sleepy to take during the day, try your way and see if things improve. :) Keep us posted! I'm sure there are others who are wondering the same thing.

[tayloraine]

Hanino doesn't come back here anymore; the thread is pretty old but thankfully still active! I guess it's a good thing, it means he's gone on to enjoy his life totally anxiety-free. He stuck around for a while though, to answer questions people had, so I promised myself if this worked (which it did!) I'd try to pay it forward and answer any questions I could.

If I remember correctly, I think Hanino said he felt a difference immediately, and felt cured a month or two into the regimen. For me, it was the same--felt much better right away, and great by the end of month 1. By month 2 I felt back to my old self completely, and in month 3/4 I had one two-minute panic attack--and none since, for the last 5 months. This was after two YEARS of anxiety and panic. Even my depression lifted. I'm still taking the supplements, but I take them every other day now; in a few months I'll cut down to every three days and maybe even stay there forever, so the deficiency doesn't return. We'll see, I guess. :)

Are you also taking the l-glutamine powder? I can't remember the science behind it, but Hanino believed that was really important, taking all 3 at the same time.

[Rain]

Hey there,

i think the question have already being asked but it seems i can't find the answer. Is there a significant difference between traditional magnesium and magnesium chelated with amino acids?
I'm taking 2 pill of magnesium a day since January of this year, i tried to stop one months in February for 1 month, i ended up not being able to sleep 3 or 4 nights in a row, so i started again taking it and it's more or less fine right now.

But i have still neck muscles and abdominal muscles always contracted (which is horrible to live with), do you think this particular type of magnesium will change something or is it the same thing?

[MAM090982]

I was having twitching and vibrating muscles, and mine was from low potassium and I thought low magnesium/calcium so I was taking magnesium/calcium calm drink and it wasnt going away. Now that I stopped taking it, and just having a banana a day, all of the vibrating and twitching went away, accept for the occasional eye twitch.

[downsouth]

Hello all,
I started the regimen at the end of last year.. Benefits where great, alert, energy, but the downfall was that my gout acted up severly. I had the longest bout of about a month. The anxiety level did decrease but it was not great or decisively different so I stopped.
I see that it has worked for several people and that's great. Hopefully I can find my solution soon.

[RavenM]

I've started a 143mg a day Mg supplement and today I ordered the Amino Fuel supplement. I have already noticed a better feeling in just 3 days! My mentality is much better, and curing your mind has to come before curing your body. Just a word of caution to those taking Magnesium, it is very important to not exceed your daily allowance of Mg. For men ages 19-30, 400mg max--ages 31+, 420mg max. For women ages 19-30, 310mg max--ages 31+, 320mg max. This also includes the Mg that you obtain from your food!!! Getting too much Mg can cause a level of toxicity in the body. In this case as the OP said, more is NOT better. Take care, all. We don't have to suffer like this forever :)

[kaybeee]

I've started a 143mg a day Mg supplement and today I ordered the Amino Fuel supplement. I have already noticed a better feeling in just 3 days! My mentality is much better, and curing your mind has to come before curing your body. Just a word of caution to those taking Magnesium, it is very important to not exceed your daily allowance of Mg. For men ages 19-30, 400mg max--ages 31+, 420mg max. For women ages 19-30, 310mg max--ages 31+, 320mg max. This also includes the Mg that you obtain from your food!!! Getting too much Mg can cause a level of toxicity in the body. In this case as the OP said, more is NOT better. Take care, all. We don't have to suffer like this forever :)

I've just come across this thread today and although my anxiety isn't nearly as bad as some, it has been acting up much more lately due to many changes (good changes) that are happening in my life. No matter how happy I am with certain things that are happening in my life they still give me anxiety because I constantly anticipate them to happen. After reading this thread, I actually found a bottle of Magnesium tablets in my cupboard that has not been opened. So I took one and will continue taking them and maybe I'll order some of the Amino Fuel and L Glutamine as well. My question is...my bottle says "Magnesium 500" but RavenM, you recommend no more than 310 mg for someone of my age (21). Should I buy a different bottle? Maybe a 250 mg bottle?

[RavenM]

I've just come across this thread today and although my anxiety isn't nearly as bad as some, it has been acting up much more lately due to many changes (good changes) that are happening in my life. No matter how happy I am with certain things that are happening in my life they still give me anxiety because I constantly anticipate them to happen. After reading this thread, I actually found a bottle of Magnesium tablets in my cupboard that has not been opened. So I took one and will continue taking them and maybe I'll order some of the Amino Fuel and L Glutamine as well. My question is...my bottle says "Magnesium 500" but RavenM, you recommend no more than 310 mg for someone of my age (21). Should I buy a different bottle? Maybe a 250 mg bottle?

I would definitely go with the 250. I knew that taking too much isn't good for the body however my practitioner verified that for me as well. You don't want to do harm to your body as you are trying to heal it so I would recommend going with the 250 to be safe. This allows you to get some of the magnesium from your food, which counts with your daily allowance and you should not experience any side effects :)

[kaybeee]

Thanks RavenM. I have also read that magnesium oxide does not absorb as well into the body as other forms of magnesium like taurate. Although if the amino fuel is taken with the magnesium oxide maybe it will work just fine, but I have opted into taking the magnesium taurate. I just ordered a bottle of 60 capsules, 125 mg each from pureformulas.com. I'm going to take these and see how I feel in a couple weeks. I'm so happy I came across this thread. It seems as though many people have had success in relieving some, if not all, of their anxiety through this magnesium treatment. :)

[RavenM]

Thanks RavenM. I have also read that magnesium oxide does not absorb as well into the body as other forms of magnesium like taurate. Although if the amino fuel is taken with the magnesium oxide maybe it will work just fine, but I have opted into taking the magnesium taurate. I just ordered a bottle of 60 capsules, 125 mg each from pureformulas.com. I'm going to take these and see how I feel in a couple weeks. I'm so happy I came across this thread. It seems as though many people have had success in relieving some, if not all, of their anxiety through this magnesium treatment. :)


I take magnesium chloride and it works well. I've also heard good things about taurate HOWEVER some people found that taurate made their anxiety worse. I don't know for certain but I'm thinking taurate is related to taurine, which is found in energy drinks like Monster. Everyone is different though and if something doesn't seem to be helping after a couple weeks, change it up! Don't give up hope. :)

[kaybeee]

I take magnesium chloride and it works well. I've also heard good things about taurate HOWEVER some people found that taurate made their anxiety worse. I don't know for certain but I'm thinking taurate is related to taurine, which is found in energy drinks like Monster. Everyone is different though and if something doesn't seem to be helping after a couple weeks, change it up! Don't give up hope. :)

Thanks! I've already ordered the taurate so I'll see how that works. I saw the doctor today for a routine physical and spoke to her a little about my anxiety and I guess since it didn't seem so serious she wasn't so concerned, but I asked her about the magnesium deficiency and how it can relate to anxiety and she just sort of laughed and said that there's a very small chance they're related..I have heard so many wonderful things on here though so of course I'm going to try it out!

[RavenM]

Sometimes I worry about the future of the health field.... My doctor didn't discourage me at all, just advised me to be smart about how much I take!

[Soulman]

Hi all, I have been following this blog for a while and I am very impressed with the amount of information on this site. Glad to see so many people helping others. I hope I can help as well - I have been researching and learning about anxiety and depression for the past couple of years.

I won't go into my story too much but here is the short version:
My wife suffered a nervous breakdown 2 years ago. This was the result of 3 high stress jobs (1 she loved) over a 6 month period. She just couldn't cope with anything anymore and could no longer work. She improved for a few months but some more high emotional stress has taken its toll and now has anxiety all the time. This has caused deep depression/bad thoughts, physical pain, too scared to go anywhere and poor breathing habits.

Adrenal fatigue is a hard thing to overcome. The brain stops working properly because of nutrient deficiencies, negative thoughts spiral out of control, increasing anxiety and depression, poor shallow breathing resulting in the brain and body not getting the correct oxygen/co2 mix, creating even more anxiety, depression and fatigue. A vicious cycle.

She just had a blood test done and everything came back normal. The problem with blood tests is that it is testing what’s in your vein...it can't tell you what is happening in the brain. The same goes for amino acid urine/blood tests. You cannot get an accurate answer. A spinal sample would provide a better result but still will not tell you what the precise cause is. Doctors simply look at the results, say its normal and refer you onto a psychiatrist or prescribe you with an SSRI drug, or both. I believe SSRI drugs can be good to some people and are sometimes necessary, but they simply address the symptom and not the cause. I believe the right combination of vitamins, aminos and diet are the answer. I have just started my wife on a supplemental plan suited for her. I will keep you posted in the coming weeks on how things are going.

I also see a few are having issues with headaches or other side effects. Just remember that most people do not need every amino or vitamin, just the ones that are related to their condition. There is no point taking something you don’t need. Some aminos don't go well with anxiety meds.

Advice: Avoid any products with caffeine and alcohol and DON'T LISTEN TO THE SKEPTICS - there is hope.

[nf1234]

Interested to hear your wifes progress soulman. I have been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue and I think thats where most of my anxiety comes from. Addressing that nutritionally and reading the book The Mood Cure by Julia Ross have been my biggest helps. If you ever want any information send me a PM. I have learned a wholeeee lot about supplements, nutrition, blood tests, adrenal fatigue, ect in my journey.

[Soulman]

Hi nf1234, I read a bit of the Mood Cure but found The Way Up From Down by Priscilla Slagle very good. Even though it is a little old (1987) the information in it is still excellent. My wife did try a broadbase amino 2 years ago but it made her worse. I am pretty sure it was the high Tryptophan content to blame. It does not go well with the SSRI meds. These are the supplements this time around:

Wake up - 500mg of Tyrosine in morning plus 40mg of B6(Pyridoxine hydrochloride). No food for min 30min.
Breakfast - 1 multivitamin, 250mg vit C, 200mg magnesium (glycinate and chelate type), 1/2 B complex
Mid arvo - 500mg of L-Phenylananine (for pain, however I have read that the D form is better for this) - no food for 30min
Dinner - 250mg vit C, 200mg magnesium , 1/2 B complex

We will give this a week and see how things are going before adding higher doses or changing things etc. By the way she believes this will have no effect on her condition, so at least I can rule out a placebo effect if it does.

What are you doing for your adrenal fatigue?

[kaybeee]

So I got the magnesium in the mail and they are 125 mg capsules. I started taking them and felt better almost immediately and didn't even have to take one the next day. I took it only when I felt like I really needed it so that makes me think maybe I don't have a magnesium deficiency. But, I've also noticed that I am happier and have more motivation to do things when I take the magnesium.

Two days ago (Thurs), I took a magnesium capsule. I didn't take one on Friday, but I woke up feeling pressure on my chest. I could breathe fine, but my chest felt a bit heavy. I went out and got some fresh air, didn't do any strenuous physical activity, but I still felt the pressure on my chest. It didn't feel too heavy, but still noticeable. I'm not sure if it's just in my head, or it's my anxiety kicking in (even though my anxiety doesn't really kick in on a regular basis...). Also, my heart would start pounding hard, but not fast. It just felt like it was pounding pretty hard and slow, but not dangerously slow. It was beating at around 65 bpm at a resting rate. This morning I woke up and I can still feel the pressure on my chest, but if I become busy with something I don't notice it anymore so maybe it's just in my head. There's no pain in my chest, just a little bit of heaviness. I also woke up today and my heart would sometimes speed up, but I was just lying in bed, not doing any activity. Could this be magnesium withdrawal? Or perhaps I need to take the magnesium again? Or do you think this is something entirely different?

Please help :/

p.s. Before I started taking the magnesium there were times when I would wake up and my heart would be pounding so it would be hard to go back to sleep. Once I fell into a regular pattern and stopped stressing about work so much, I slept better. Then, when I started taking the magnesium I slept even better...until waking up this morning with my heart having irregular rhythms here and there. At first I thought maybe I need to just flush the magnesium out of my system, but I only took 125 mg...would it even still be in my system if I took it two days ago? :/

I'm afraid of taking it again because I don't want to feel this pressure on my chest, but at the same time maybe the magnesium is what's helping me.

[RavenM]

I often wake up everyday with my heart beating rather quickly for laying in bed. Once I get moving, it doesn't stick around. Someone here hypothesized that our body uses adrenaline to get us awake and that extra adrenaline is what we feel since anxiety sufferers are rather sensitive to it. I would continue the Magnesium. Regardless, it is good for the heart and helps you have normal heart rhythm. I believe much of what you are feeling is simply anxiety. I wouldn't worry too much. Just take a few deep breaths or close your eyes and gently press your fingers to them. Sounds weird but this technique is used for people with sinus tachycardia to reset their heart rhythm.

[kaybeee]

I often wake up everyday with my heart beating rather quickly for laying in bed. Once I get moving, it doesn't stick around. Someone here hypothesized that our body uses adrenaline to get us awake and that extra adrenaline is what we feel since anxiety sufferers are rather sensitive to it. I would continue the Magnesium. Regardless, it is good for the heart and helps you have normal heart rhythm. I believe much of what you are feeling is simply anxiety. I wouldn't worry too much. Just take a few deep breaths or close your eyes and gently press your fingers to them. Sounds weird but this technique is used for people with sinus tachycardia to reset their heart rhythm.


Yeah, after I got up and took the dog out, my heart stopped racing, but I still feel the pressure on my chest. If it continues should I get it checked out? I don't feel like it's too serious right now because there's no pain and I can breathe fine and if I don't think about it/focus on something else, it's like it's not there, until I think about it again.

[RavenM]

Give it time to get out of your mind. Once you stop thinking about it will go away. We tend to focus on an unpleasant sensation and obsess on it for the time being. Once you ignore it, it goes away. Try light exercise too. If you can exercise with no issue, feel pretty certain that your heart is fine. If you can't seem to shake the feeling seeing a doctor is never the wrong way to go. :)

[kaybeee]

Once I took the magnesium, I felt no more pressure on my chest and my heart felt better too. But, now I feel depressed a bit. Maybe it's because I need to keep taking the magnesium on a daily basis. I noticed I started feeling like this yesterday when my chest felt pressure. I took the magnesium and the pressure went away, but I was still feeling a bit down and a lack of motivation to do things.

[RavenM]

Yeah anxiety will do that to a person. You'll have days where you barely feel like living and others where you feel you're on top of the world. Embrace the good ones and as you heal they will replace the bad.

[kaybeee]

I visited my doctor and she said my anxiety is due to big life changes happening. I'm moving out of my parents house, starting at a new school, etc. So hopefully my anxiety is only temporary. Also, the magnesium tends to make me very tired throughout the day so I'm going to try taking it at night. Thanks for always responding RavenM!

[RavenM]

I'm sure you'll kick society's butt soon enough!! And no problem! I want to help others who suffer like myself :)

[AnaVictoria]

Wow! I have no idea about the magnesium. Am so glad I found this forum. I have been battling anxiety attacks for the past 6 years. It's interesting RavenM that you bring up the magnesium deficiency factor, and here's why. Those who are already taking PPI to deal with acid reflux and GERD on a daily basis, need to know the following. Because PPI's main function is to reduce the acid reflux in the esophagus, also absorbs most of the vitamin and nutrients we take on a daily basis. People taking PPI's daily are more likely to have magnesium deficiency. If you Google PPI's and magnesium deficiency, you will find that this can lead to suffer from depression and anxiety attacks.

[prouddad]

I do not want to rain on your parade, but my psychiatrist advice against taking additional magnesium. She believes it works like placebo on people. I do to. Big pharma is selling it and pays for the research which is always in their favor. Is not?

I am willing to give it a shot. I spoke with a trusted friend who is a retired Dr as well as a Pharmacist. Both agreed that it cant hurt and had theories why it could. As far as being in bed with big Pharma. No one is more so than your psych and the big pharma pills he/she is prescribing.
The people on here "pushing" the supplements are not paid. They are only sharing their experience.

[bonehead]

It's been 22 months since I found this thread. So glad I did.

[Kyle's Weight Gain]

I am a certified personal trainer and I have been on Anxiety/Depression medication for over 15 years. I have gained 70 pounds because of the medication. After trying 5 different medications in hopes that one would not have the side effects of weight gain and being unsuccessful, I have decided to take matters into my own hands. Please follow me on my journey as I lose the weight that I have gained from taking Anxiety and Depression Medications. Like my Facebook page and support me on this journey.

[scaff88]

Hiya I'm new here I was jus wondering if you could tell me what type of magnesium and amino acids I should buy from my local health store and should I be taking them both together because I have read your post and it has really opened my eye's and offered me some hope to beating my anxiety any advice would be greatly appreciated many thanks

[javiergraciafdez]

ANXIETY, Somebody help me!! Author: Sara Burillo.
EXCELLENT!!! Fully Recommended! It speaks about amino acids and all of that! :) This book saved me... What book saved you? :)

[prouddad]

Hiya I'm new here I was jus wondering if you could tell me what type of magnesium and amino acids I should buy from my local health store and should I be taking them both together because I have read your post and it has really opened my eye's and offered me some hope to beating my anxiety any advice would be greatly appreciated many thanks

Go to the first post and the OP outlines the regiment. Before you start you may want to read some self help info some of which is available on this forum. The amino and mag helped me but it was not a cure all. It seems that this is as much or more about your own outlook and steering your thoughts in the right direction. If you need a quick temp cure to help you may want to try passion flower supplement (IM amazing) and some chamomile tea. Remember anxiety is all in your mind.

[mtalton]

L-theanine is another Great AA for Anxiety

[Mike Castillo]

yea, I agree with you... I tried all those aminos and magnesium and it didnt help me. B12 actually makes me feel worse.

[1Bluerose68]

How many Mg daily of magnesium, and what are Amino Acids?

[bestam]

Well, besides magnesium, there are other medications as well.

Valerian – This is made from a tall fern like plant that is known for its sedative properties. It is a widely used medication for treating insomnia as well as moderate anxiety disorders. It also helps people to deal with the withdrawal phase that could happen when you discontinue using some anti depressant drugs. But it is best to consult your doctor before you decide to take this medication or you could suffer from horrible side effects. Among the minor side effects reported for this drug is drowsiness and dizziness.

Primal Calm – This is a dietary supplement that used to be called the Proloftin. It claims to positively influence the stress level in only 30 minutes of intake and the effect could last for the whole day. It is a non stimulant and non drowsy supplement that have little or no known side effects.

Benadryl – This is a popular anti allergic medication but is also used to treat symptoms of anxiety disorders. Those who have consumed Benadryl have noticed a decrease of their level of anxiety although the effects would vary from one individual to another. But the most common side effects would be drowsiness, grogginess and sleep disturbance.

Passiflora Incarnata – This is more popularly known as the passion flower which has been known to treat anxiety attacks during the ancient times. It contains flavonoids that work on the brain cells which are responsible for the anxiety attack. Among the possible side effects are nausea, headache, drowsiness and vomiting.

Chamomile – this herb came from the Chamaemelum Nobile and is known to relieve agitation and tension among individuals. It comes in the form of capsules, tea and powder. It should be taken moderately only because too much of it could lead to irregular menstrual cycle, itchiness, breathing problems, and other problems.

[gauth1234]

For me when I started to take melatonin, I felt a difference in my mental health. I was a lot more relaxed and was better rested after the many months of struggle.

[Stephie]

Thank you for sharing. Im so glad these things worked for you as I'll bet they have much fewer side effects than prescription anxiety meds. I will definitely try magnesium and aminos

[Bean0]

How long does it take to build up from a magnesium deficiency?

I bought some ancient minerals oil a few days ago and have been using it as instructed for 2 days, it seems to have made me more relaxed but we all know placebo can play a huge part in that.

[raggamuffin]

Did you have a deficiency prior to buying these supplements? Supplements aren't really necessary if you eat a healthy and balanced diet. One of the biggest benefits I had to general health and wellbeing was ditching all processed food. Replacing it with fruit and veg and wholegrains. It made an incredible difference to how I felt.

Of course that's just the icing on the cake. To really overcome depression or anxiety you have to delve to find the root causes and events which provoked the negative emotions and fears you continue to experience to this day. Yes eating well and doing exercise are good lifestyle changes. But the issues people on here experience are more often than not caused by mental health disorders.

I know it's nice to pin the way you think and feel on something physiological, but often that's not the case. This is why people often go to Dr's and their tests come back negative. They're told it's anxiety or depression and this can be troublesome for people to fathom. It was for me, for over 3 years of 24/7 symptoms. I simply couldn't accept that issues in my mind were causing constant pains. Even after realizing it was caused by issues in the mind the constant symptoms continued for a further 2 years before I really started making progress and reducing the symptoms greatly.

This motto describes anxiety and depression perfectly - "Mind over matter"

Ed

[Mike Castillo]

Did you have a deficiency prior to buying these supplements? Supplements aren't really necessary if you eat a healthy and balanced diet. One of the biggest benefits I had to general health and wellbeing was ditching all processed food. Replacing it with fruit and veg and wholegrains. It made an incredible difference to how I felt.

Of course that's just the icing on the cake. To really overcome depression or anxiety you have to delve to find the root causes and events which provoked the negative emotions and fears you continue to experience to this day. Yes eating well and doing exercise are good lifestyle changes. But the issues people on here experience are more often than not caused by mental health disorders.

I know it's nice to pin the way you think and feel on something physiological, but often that's not the case. This is why people often go to Dr's and their tests come back negative. They're told it's anxiety or depression and this can be troublesome for people to fathom. It was for me, for over 3 years of 24/7 symptoms. I simply couldn't accept that issues in my mind were causing constant pains. Even after realizing it was caused by issues in the mind the constant symptoms continued for a further 2 years before I really started making progress and reducing the symptoms greatly.

This motto describes anxiety and depression perfectly - "Mind over matter"

Ed

i like the way you put it brother. Its very true, food and supplements help, but its the root cause that has to be dealt with first. It is proven on MRI scans that your thoughts contain actual "real estate" in our brains. Negative thoughts appear very different from positive thoughts when observed on scans

:D

[Bean0]

Well it's pretty difficult to get further scans done here in the UK, unless I go private and pay for them.

My doctor said my heart was fine based off blood tests and 1 ECG. Doesn't put much faith in me when I see everyone else on here go through a whole host of tests.

[raggamuffin]

Blood tests would suffice. I went through many years of all my tests coming back fine and convincing myself something physiological was still the cause. Trust me, anxiety can cause any symptom going. It really is mind over matter. If the tests came back fine you need to accept that. The tests are there for a reason and Dr's have 7+ years medical knowledge to their name, we have anxiety and paranoia and Google - it doesn't quite compare.

Ed

[Mike Castillo]

Blood tests would suffice. I went through many years of all my tests coming back fine and convincing myself something physiological was still the cause. Trust me, anxiety can cause any symptom going. It really is mind over matter. If the tests came back fine you need to accept that. The tests are there for a reason and Dr's have 7+ years medical knowledge to their name, we have anxiety and paranoia and Google - it doesn't quite compare.

Ed
true, I went through the same thing. ER visits on a regular basis thinking i was dying and I was perfect physically, except for a slightly rapid firing adrenal glands..lol

[raggamuffin]

Yes, anxiety causes adrenaline and the fight or flight response to fire off a lot more than the average person.

Ed

[Loyd]

interesting

[PanicCured]

Did you have a deficiency prior to buying these supplements? Supplements aren't really necessary if you eat a healthy and balanced diet.

No you are wrong! I am not talking about supplementing with Vitamin A and Calcium. I am talking about particular herbs and some supplements that have an affect on the body. Certain supplements can help you heal and do things to your body to get you better, and a lot of people do have a deficiency of Vitamin D3. Although Vitamin D3 is really a hormone not a vitamin. And guess what, anxiety is a problem and if your nervous system is shot, we can easily classify that as deficiency. So this rhetoric doctors like to spew that you only need a supplement if you have a bona fide deficiency is not the whole picture, then sell you drugs. Vitamins and minerals you can usually get through a really good nutritious diet, but Magnesium seems to really help people with anxiety as you will see many people here attest to. Maybe the panic and anxiety depletes magnesium. Whatever it is, anxiety has a physical component to it coupled with the psychological, and it is NOT ONLY in your head. You can't just snap out of it because some guy tells you to.

[struggling1234]

has anyone tried protein shakes. i take them and apparently they can have up to 36grams of amino acids in them which is quite amazing!

[Vincent Miller]

I think the real way is not to just take aminoacids, magnesium or protein shakes, but to go in for some sports after.
For me even simpliest outdoor exercises help tremendeously!

[Tyler Duczeminski]

ADMIN PLEASE DELETE THIS PROFILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[fightanxiety]

hope everyone here to update your result of experiment with amino acid + magnesium treatment. thanks!!!

[NixonRulz]

I grew a third testicle. Didn't go as planned.

[Dahila]

Nixon heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee finally someone with clear head. When I see this thread, I just laugh.........My only experiment with magnesium was; My meds did not get absorbed due the magnesium;))
Normal person who does not live on McDonalds will have a good level of magnesium. Try to eat dark chocolate instead and shoot some tequila, it does wonder to the body........

[Rednaa]

I really wish it was that simple to help rid my anxiety but I do find it hard to believe. If it has worked for you and brought relief I am very happy for you and I mean that. It's harder for me to believe it because I was taking these types of supplements before my anxiety came back after be free from it for 6 years I managed to come off my meds and everything was great. I got back in to fitness went the gym 4 times a week amino acids protein shakes and vitamind were a regular thing for years. I have a good job an amazing wife expecting a child everything I ever wanted. Then just out of nowhere in the middle of the night woke up with a massive panic attack and my anxiety has not left me since after going to the doctor and get meds I fought for days telling my self I don't need them but deep down I know I did. As I said I not here to bash anyone's ideas or what worked for them just thought I'd share my story. I wouldn't wish this on anybody it'd the worst thing imaginable and unfortunately my second time going through it. I hope you all find want ever works for you.

[Dahila]

I believe it works as placebo and when we believe is something , it works :) Anxiety disorder can not be cured by anything, it can be controlled by meds, herbs and meditation but not cured

[Rednaa]

I believe it works as placebo and when we believe is something , it works :) Anxiety disorder can not be cured by anything, it can be controlled by meds, herbs and meditation but not cured
You really believe it can't be cured me I have my doubts alright but I'd love to hear why you think it can't be cured are you a fellow sufferer.

[CozyL]

I believe it can be cured. I believe. Isn't this the mantra of fighting anxiety?

Anyway, without going into an argument here, I started this regimen 7 days ago.

It may work or it may not. So far, no big changes. But I will give it a shot for a full month. In fact if I start feeling better in one week or two, then I will do it for 5-6 months.

If there IS a deficiency that these regimen will fix, I will be good. If there is not, then I will move on with something else except prescription drugs.

I have had this GAD for 10 years now, but I left it untreated, because it was mild. Now I have the panic attacks too. Time for change.

I also have a vit D deficiency. I am taking 5000 IU per day.

Something has to work. My belief is that if you fix the deficiency, then the body will balance the rest.

[CozyL]

So that was stupid what I posted a couple days ago.

Magnesium and vit d SHOULD be taken together.

So what I did after doing some more research on them...

I upped my dosage :
Vit d3 10,000 IU
Magnesium 600 mg
I still take the one and a half tbsp of amino acids.
In terms of how I feel...I think yesterday I felt a little bit better. Towards the afternoon, my vision went back to normal (usually I have the blurred vision).
This morning I have energy and I could probably do some stuff around the house. Feeling about normal, except periodical spells of blurred vision.
God help.
And if I say something stupid, would you guys correct me? I am just like you, I am no doctor or anything else.

[Dahila]

You really believe it can't be cured me I have my doubts alright but I'd love to hear why you think it can't be cured are you a fellow sufferer.
Yes for at least 50 years of my life

[Kuma]

I think just saying "magnesium" will cure anxiety. The stuff is so powerful that merely incanting its name will instantly and permanently cure you, no matter what caused your anxiety.

Seriously, folks, before you go overdosing on Vitamin D or taking other vitamins or minerals that you may or may not need, see a qualified medical doctor, test for any deficiencies you think you may have, and get some advice about what supplementation, if any, is needed.

I don't doubt the good faith of people here who claim that some vitamin or mineral helped them, but it is not a good idea to get medical advice from random strangers on the internet. At most, you might get some ideas to discuss with your doctor.

Remember, supplements can have downsides as well as potential benefits, and as a general matter "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

[jessed03]

I hadn't read this thread before so I decided to go back a few pages to get a feel for what everybody was saying. The first post I saw was PanicCured saying, "NO! You're wrong!" I thought, what are the odds of that... but then I realized he did say that to a heck of a lot of people on here.

As far as supps go, man, I took them all. I have drawers full of them from years ago (I really should get rid of them now). You've got to see where your numbers are at before taking anything. You're p*ssing in the wind, otherwise. I took many supplements on the assumption I was deficient or low on something. Turns out virtually everything I predicted was pretty much wrong. The body is just too strange. I didn't eat any high calcium food for years. Swore I was low, numbers were fine. I went 3 years doing nights, thought, vit D must be critical, it was ok.

If you want real healing, as inconvenient as it is, you've got to hand over some of your blood and your hair and get some cold hard data in front of you.

[Charles_Glenn]

Yeah I have GAD as well and I have been doing pretty good of late because my doctor prescribed to me buspirone. At first it didn't do much, but I stayed with it, within a month I felt very much better. It takes time to get better, but it can be done. It's trial and error. For anyone fighting this disease, just stay in there and kick its butt!

[PanicCured]

The first post I saw was PanicCured saying, "NO! You're wrong!" I thought, what are the odds of that... but then I realized he did say that to a heck of a lot of people on here.

If I said that it was because they were actually wrong leading people in the wrong direction! Duh!

Anxiety is a very simple thing to fix, so sometimes it is blatantly obvious when someone is steering someone in the wrong directio .

[Kuma]

If I said that it was because they were actually wrong leading people in the wrong direction! Duh!

Anxiety is a very simple thing to fix, so sometimes it is blatantly obvious when someone is steering someone in the wrong directio .

Hey Panic Cured. You should realize by now that just because YOU think something said here is wrong does not mean that it IS wrong. Indeed, given how misguided your advice here has been, and how little credibility you have, the best evidence that something is RIGHT may be that YOU think it is WRONG.

And by the way, anxiety is not so simple to "fix." People who are a hell of a lot smarter and more insightful and more sophisticated than you are have been trying to "fix" anxiety for a long time; it is not nearly as simple as you seem to believe it is. Sadly, there is no simple, magic, one-size-fits-all cure. I wish there were...

[Dahila]

If I said that it was because they were actually wrong leading people in the wrong direction! Duh!

Anxiety is a very simple thing to fix, so sometimes it is blatantly obvious when someone is steering someone in the wrong directio .
Anxiety is not the car that is simple to fix, if it was we would be one happy crowd:))
NOOOOOOO Panic you are wrong!!! :)

[dwizzite]

Hanino, this makes great sense.

Once I got into body building and focused on eating foods high in protein (especially since I'm Vegan), my overall energy and mood remained relatively relaxed and calm because my body was getting all the nutrients it needed to rebuild. Diet plays such a huge role in neutralizing anxiety. A diet rich in fake food is an incubator for anxiety. Whereas a diet in real food, and in your case, making sure you have enough essential minerals, mellowed you out.

Congrats!

[Mark Melhoff]

Interesting post. I think I may try magnesium to see if it helps with the anxious feelings I get from time to time. I do have a problem with b-vitamins though. Over the years, every time I take a b-complex or b-vitamin, I get migraines. They are usually accompanied with ocular blind spots followed by bad headaches. It took me a few months to figure out what was happening, but as soon I stopped taking the b-vitamin, I stopped getting migraines. I haven't changed anything else in my diet, so I am 99% sure something in the B-vitamin was causing the migraines. I have followed a very restrictive low-carb diet for weight maintenance and muscle training for years, so I wonder if adding the b-vitamins puts too much in my body. I eat a lot of grass-fed organic meat that is supposedly high in natural b-vitamins. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible to get amino acids without b-vitamins, or does this defeat the purpose. Thanks in advance for the replies.

[missedlink]

Breaking the body balance can cause anxiety, so doing all that's in our hands to try to balance it again is great. I'm happy it worked for you :)

[fenwicke]

Hanino, I don't know if you are still around but I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving me my life back. I have been taken magnesium for a month or so. I also take vitamin D3 as I am deficient. Vitamin c also. Well my horrible tasting amino fuel came on Monday and I am so much better. I can think clearly again. No attacks, lower heart rate, etc. I could only pray it just gets better. THANK YOU.

[Renge]

This was really interesting to read.
Do you think taking these along side your usual meds they would still help?
Thanks

[rosielightshines]

This was really interesting to read.
Do you think taking these along side your usual meds they would still help?
Thanks

what amino acids are you taking??? I am doing the L-theanine thing and i notice that it "boosts" the affectiveness of my meds...doc has me on the lowest dose of clonopin. .05 mg, 2x per day equals 1g i can do .75 most of the time if i "boost" it w/ L-Theanine....anyone know about this?? have other sugestions?? what worked for you all???

[Davit]

Does anyone know what the carrier is that gets the Amino acids into your brain is. All I know is insulin strips it and it is different for Tryptophan.

[Ckraft42]

Hanino, thanks for sharing this! Would taking the amino acids affect the absorption of my antidepressant? I surely don't want to get worse. But I'm miserable, so I'm willing to try if it doesn't have any contraindications.

[Davit]

Anxiety is simple to cure and he is right, you are all pissing in the wind. And I'm right you are not going to get cured with out looking a good hard evidence instead of guessing. What do I care, I'm cured, I'm happy and i function very well.

[fenwicke]

Hi everyone, just an update. Still feeling great. 5000 D3, K2, magnesium or Epsom salt baths, multi vitamin, lots of water, no caffeine, no msg, no aspartame, low sugar intake. Walking. Drink Arizona Stress Rx iced tea for B viamins.

[Nervous Ninny]

I take a product that has Amino acids ( Whenever I say that out loud it sounds like, old mean old asses lol I'm so goofy) and magnesium it does seem to help , it is called relaquil. It does make me sleepy though so I never take it during the day but if I drink a glass of wine I get very sleepy as well :/

[Ponder]

-------------- Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety.

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[julianna]

I'm taking L-tryptophan (which is an essential amino acid, you have to ingest it), B complex (vitamins B6 and B9 are needed), vitamin C and magnesium - all of this is needed to effectively produce serotonine. You can also do it without supplements, but you have to be attentive. Ever since I started taking B complex together with vitamin C and magnesium I started to feel MUCH BETTER. I felt like myself in NO TIME basicly, no overcompensation of serotonine like with medicine (I was on Paroxat), no shaking, no residual fear, no phobias, nothing... If I overcompensate on vitamins they get excreted in urine. But I have to say that low serotonine was also due to my worrying, pressure, negativity... I had to start thinking positively. I haven't become a hipster but I'm leaning towards positivity, positive thinking, pushing through, less worrying (it's doable, you just have to put some effort to it), trying to lose the pressure.

[PacificCoastGirl]

I am going to try this for my daughter who suffers from an anxiety disorder called Selective Mutism. She was traumatized at two years old but did not develop SM until 8 years later. She is currently unable to attend school, speak in public and does not like to leave the house except for short periods of time. I have ordered the amino acids and purchased fish oil for Omega fatty acids.

I suffered horribly with anxiety for the first time after becoming very ill as a teenager after a vacation. Misdiagnosed with CFS, 12 years later, I found out I had Lyme disease and coinfections. These also cause out of control anxiety. I empathize because my late teens and entire 20's was just a big panic attack. I do not believe all anxiety it situational. I discovered my husband was leading a disturbing, disgusting life which left me sole custodial, single parent to our three kids. I had just finished treatment for lyme disease and my anxiety was gone after. I was terrified it would come back during the police interregation I had to listen to while he was questioned, children's services involvement, having to get tested for every STD known due to his disgusting life choices while we were married. None. No panic attacks at all! If they were only induced through life events, I sure as heck would have been one big panic attacked mess. For me, it was an organic illness that screwed up my brain chemicals. So for those who say to just control your thoughts, if it is biological induced, you can't. It's like telling someone with cancer to just stop having cancer. Impossible.

Thanks for this thread and I will report back the results with my daughter!!

[Leacock]

I've been doing research on how to cure this problem. I'm a college freshman and smoked weed a couple times in the beginning of the year but stopped because i really don't like it its not for me. However, I drink a lot and one night after heavy drinking I have been experiencing "derealization"...its a horrible feeling that has been depressing me. i just want it to go away.

I did some reading and heard that "5-htp" pills will re-balance the chemicals in the brain and fix the anxiety/derealization supplemented.co.uk/products/5-htp-100mg-capsules. Is this true? I really hope so, I cant live with this feeling anymore!! Has anyone used this staff?

[raggamuffin]

Pills won't cure anxiety. Anxiety is an emotional and mental issue that must be resolved through dedication, hard work and lifestyle changes. A healthy diet free from processed foods and rich in vegetables, fruit and wholefoods will give you all the amino acids, magnesium and other essential vitamins and minerals your body requires. There's no instant/overnight cure for anxiety. You have to take responsibility for your anxiety. It's not some foreign invader of unwelcome guest - it's part of you. You can pop every pill under the sun and it won't stop you being a worrier or constantly thinking in a pessimistic fashion. You could be so drugged up you felt numb and didn't care - hence why so many people self medicate or wind up on so many different meds for anxiety and depression that they're so numb from their true emotions they couldn't even begin to process them. That is where the heart of the issue is - emotions. If you repress or fixate or negative emotions for long enough your body will be in a constant state of stress and feel aches, pains and other symptoms. Fix the mind and the body will fall in line.

Ed

[Nervous Ninny]

I do agree with you Raggamuffin to some extent. However sometimes life throws some pretty hard blows, EX: The love of your life cheats, your child gets in a serious accident, you have a major life change, like starting college. I think emotions can be very similar to a injured body part on this aspect. Therefore if one had a broken arm most people would take a pain killer for awhile during the healing time. I see medication for emotional wounds similar and just like pain killers they can be abused. I am taking a natural product right now called Relaquil however I have used used Zanax and now I am weaning myself off using this natural product while I emotionally heal. Going cold turkey doesn't works for me.

[natty]

Hi,

I have read some posts on here and research.

I have very severe ocd and want to try some supplements. I have low vitamin d (found on blood tests). So I was thinking to try this, what do you think:

10,000iu for vitamin D for 3 months then going to 2000iu a month

Inositol: 18 grams a day

Vitamin k2 – not sure how much?

Chelated magnesium– not sure how much? (or another magnesium)

Maybe b12, but maybe bring in later?

a multivitamin - which brand?

All help and info appreciated, and also any good brands. I have researched so much but still not sure which route to go with brands etc


Thankyou

[Andrew33]

I take buspirone 7.5mg twice a day... can i take amino acids and magnesium with this? I dont really want to miss doses of the buspirone because it has helped some.

[philknightlife]

What's 5-htp pills?

[Joel Stewart]

I have only been taking B-vitamins and a multi, Amino acids sounds like a pretty good idea....

[cloudy black]

Pills won't cure anxiety. Anxiety is an emotional and mental issue that must be resolved through dedication, hard work and lifestyle changes. A healthy diet free from processed foods and rich in vegetables, fruit and wholefoods will give you all the amino acids, magnesium and other essential vitamins and minerals your body requires. There's no instant/overnight cure for anxiety. You have to take responsibility for your anxiety. It's not some foreign invader of unwelcome guest - it's part of you. You can pop every pill under the sun and it won't stop you being a worrier or constantly thinking in a pessimistic fashion. You could be so drugged up you felt numb and didn't care - hence why so many people self medicate or wind up on so many different meds for anxiety and depression that they're so numb from their true emotions they couldn't even begin to process them. That is where the heart of the issue is - emotions. If you repress or fixate or negative emotions for long enough your body will be in a constant state of stress and feel aches, pains and other symptoms. Fix the mind and the body will fall in line.

Ed

your post makes excellant sense. eating food that's on offer these days in the supermarket has taken us away from the simple foods and steered us towards eating ready meals etc that are so full of crud. i wonder if foods were scientifically tested. what exactly would be found it it (apart from horse meat..!) and on a 100% scale of how real the food is ie not additives combination etc.. ive gotten lazy regarding food due to severe depression/anxiety and so i am creating a vicious cycle as with alcohol its "self inflicted" and i need to make it my focus once again. cook from scratch. i only cook simple meals but i know what has gone in them. and there is the internet to get recipes on that are simple and if you are on a budget

[Leacock]

Hello people,

It is amazing to know the power of supplements in the human body. Indeed the benefits of taking supplements can not be ignored. My son had been suffering from anxiety since He was 3. I settled for amino acids and magnesium supplements. I'm glad my son is fully cured and happy again. Many thanks to every forum members....One word to describe you is priceless. Thanks to my supplements provider of all time, supplemented.co.uk you didn't disappoint me at any given time. I'm indebted to all of you and most importantly to Allah.

Happy member

[Ponder]

Once upon a time, humans were able to sustain their mind and body simply from eating staple food. hmmmmmm - Glory be to the science that has thus far been able to sustain us in this biochemical age. I only hope my welfare payments will be able to meet my bodies demands and ponder the implications of those not as "blessed" as I bask in this here appreciation which feels more like a scam.

Thankfully, Epsom Salts are still cheap. ;)