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Ben asdf
06-06-2016, 09:44 PM
Someone I know has anxiety and I wish it was as black and white as it sounds. Sadly the anxiety is causing quite a bit of tension between her who has it and everyone around her. She isn't willing to try anything other than medication and therapy. Is this for the best? I often feel that that she has given upon finding any other solution and she has said on multiple occasions that the anxiety will be the same for the rest of her life. Is this something that only people with anxiety can understand?

She is also very adamant about compulsions like the way a certain room is setup. Once I added something to said room and she had a panic attack. Is there any way to fix this? I have talked about making slight changes over time, but something tells me it isn't that simple.

Anything helps, thanks.

Nowuccas
06-07-2016, 05:51 AM
Hey Ben,

She seems to me to be suffering from OCD, an anxiety spectrum disorder; see * below:

A previous post follows:

A quiz for the presence of OCD is at http://www.ocdla.com/OCDtest.html or www.adaa.org/Public/selftest_OCD.htm or Google online quizzes for OCD.

OCD is an anxiety spectrum disorder, and the obsessions and compulsions are a way of avoiding, or coping with it, so; treat the underlying anxiety effectively, replacing your habit with the EFT, below.

It's important to regularly monitor, and deal with a negative internal monologue (self talk), or mental process, such as disturbing thoughts, images, impulses, or emotions, by the process of (a): recognising it, and (b): challenging it immediately. Technique For Re-Programming Negative Thoughts: When you notice something negative, such as: "I can't do this/ am never going to get over this!" or: "Why am I always so pathetic/useless/such a loser?" or even an image, emotion, or a memory; recognise that it is being generated from the negative part of your mind. Having identified and labelled it, visualise a large, red, flashing, "STOP!" sign, and/or possibly a stern faced person wagging an index finger at you in a negative manner, then say to yourself as forcefully as you can, even aloud in a big voice, if alone: "I know this tactic: GO AWAY FOR A WHILE !!!" You may want to use either: "ruse", "ploy", "game", or "trick". In the case of an image, visualise a large "STOP" sign, or your preferred version. Some people go so far as to keep a wide rubber band in their pocket, then put it around their wrist, when they catch themselves backsliding, stretch and release it, as a method of reprogramming their mind sooner, but I don't regard it as being strictly necessary.

Remember to remove it, afterwards, if you use this method. Practice a relaxation method, daily, and when needed, such as: (free) http://www.drcoxconsulting.com/managing-stress.html or http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/mindbody/a/Meditation.htm or http://www.wikihow.com/Meditate or Yoga Nidra Tai Chi, yoga, or Qi Gong suits others better. Give acupressure tapping / EFT a good tryout, to see if it helps you. * http://eft.mercola.com Use the searchbar at http://www.mercola.com "EFT therapists" and/or see the 13 free videos at http://www.tapping.com - There is a version for use in public places*, (if anyone asks, you can claim to have a headache, as you massage/lightly tap your temples, but you would then be restricted to subvocalising: saying it to yourself in your mind: "Even though I sometimes suffer from obsessions/compulsions, I deeply and completely accept myself."

A free E course in CBT for anxiety is at: http://ecouch.anu.edu.au/welcome Books: Coping With OCD: Practical Strategies for Living Well With Obsessive-compulsive Disorder by Bruce M., Ph.D. Hyman and Troy Dufrene, & Overcoming Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder: Client Manual: A Behavioral and Cognitive Protocol for the Treatment of OCD (Best Practices Series) by Gail Steketee, & Confronting the Bully of OCD: Winning Back Our Freedom One Day at a Time by Linda Maran, from your bookstore, or amazon.com.

Hypnosis is merely a heightened state of suggestibility, in which you are better able to communicate with your subconscious mind; view http://myfavoriteinterests.com/hypnosis/ about what it is, and isn't. 85% of people are suggestible to some degree; 15% - 20% highly so, and 15% - 20% aren't much at all, so you could either preferably seek professional hypnotherapy, or, if not an option, http://www.asktheinternettherapist.com has: Conquer Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (ocd) Hypnosis CD or MP3, or: http://www.instant-hypnosis.com Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), & Quiet the Voices Within, or: http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com Stop Obsessive Thoughts , OCD Treatment , Stop Obsessive Compulsive Cleaning , Stop Obsessive Checking, Improve Impulse Control, & Overcome Fear and Anxiety, or: (free) at: http://www.freehypnosistreatment.com - anxiety.

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Types of OCD – Washers & Cleaners
Sufferers of this type of OCD have an obsession with contamination. Their irrational fear of being contaminated by germs leads them to compulsively avoid or remove all possible contaminants.

Their obsessions have to do with germs, viruses, and dirt that put them in danger of getting some disease. As such, they're in constant fear of becoming infected and infecting others.While washers may repeatedly wash their hands and/or shower, cleaners wash and rewash their clothes and repeatedly clean their houses several times each day. They repeatedly clean surfaces and objects in their home, never feeling safe or clean enough from contaminants.

Types of OCD – Checkers
These OCD sufferers are compelled to repeatedly check locks and switches around the house or office. They live in constant fear that door or window locks or switches on appliances haven't been closed or turned off.

The irrational fear that their failure to lock or switch something off will cause harm to themselves and others leads them to constantly check and recheck the objects of their obsession.

Checkers often picture terrifying catastrophes taking place in which they're to blame. This leads them to come up with elaborate rituals, which are time-consuming and hinder them from completing daily tasks.

* Types of OCD – Orderers
These OCD sufferers are obsessed with fixing things a certain "correct" way. Before even beginning a daily task, they must organize things to "perfect" order. They simply can't focus or begin unless they give in to the impulse to fix things the "right" way.

If someone else tries to touch, move, rearrange, or disarrange the things they fixed, orderers feel extreme distress.

Types of OCD – Hoarders
The objects that hoarders collect are mostly useless items that most people would consider as garbage. Or they can hoard relatively useful items, like matchbooks and sugar packets, but to the point where they can never hope to use all of it in their lifetime. Hoarding often results in chaotic living conditions.

Types of OCD – Obsessesers
Obsessesers often experience thoughts and images that are intrusive and show them causing others harm. They deal with these obsessions by repeated counting or saying certain words. Sufferers of this type of OCD may experience obsessions sans any observable rituals or compulsions.

If you suffer from OCD what category would you put yourself in? http://www.ofear.com/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=338

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Check out https://www.google.com.au/search?client=opera&q=mercola%3B+antidepressants&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 such as;

The Violent Side Effects of Antidepressants That Many Ignore - Mercola
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How Natural Treatments Can Help You Avoid Using Antidepressants
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Mar 1, 2015 - Dr. Mercola & Travis Christofferson (Full Interview) .... Side effects of antidepressants run the gamut from sexual side effects to lack of emotions or “emotional .... How to Revert from Antidepressants to More Natural Treatments.

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Prescribers are increasing reluctant to provide benzodiazepenes like Klonopin, Ativan, Xanax, or Valium, due to their addictive nature, and the fact that long term use considerably increases the risk of dementia, so they opt for SSRI / SNRI antidepressants / anxiolytics such as Zoloft, Prozac or Wellbutrin, as shown above, which have a different range of side effects (sometimes permanent). They are only around 25% more effective than a placebo (sugar pill), so I have included the treatments supplied by Dr. Mercola, as well as those below:

HERBAL ANXIOLYTICS: http://anxietyforum.net/forum/showthread.php?34269-5-Powerful-Tools-You-Probably-Haven-t-Tried-Yet&p=225415#post225415

NON HERBAL NATURAL (NON PHARMACEUTICAL) ANXIOLTYICS: (5-htp, etc.) http://anxietyforum.net/forum/showthread.php?34355-Help-Please!!!/page2


In my opinion, if she relies on medications, she is likely to be disappointed by either their inadequate performance, or undesirable side effects, and would benefit more from the alternatives above, and consulting a clinical psychologist; Google: "clinical psychologists; (her location)" and have an initial appointment with 3, selecting the one she feels most comfortable with.

phuongtrinhqn1102
06-08-2016, 01:33 AM
thanks . bai post rất có giá trị.....................

foreman
06-08-2016, 06:15 AM
Well therapist and medication its good but i heard also good things about meditation and hypnose