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cloudy black
03-10-2016, 12:43 PM
http://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/five-htp.html found this site earlier. for me i am looking at alternative ways to dealing with constant anxiety and depression. medication is woefully inadequate.

NB i am with the support of my doc looking into taking 5HTP and having seen this site it has given me other ideas that i will talk to the doc about.

it is always best to consult the doc before doing anything new especially if you are already on medication.

Ponder
03-10-2016, 04:00 PM
Yea, I recently made a post about it as well:
My wife has lost 2kg since starting 5-HTP about 3 weeks ago. She was already on a clean diet prior to that. Still early days though.


5-HTP Science-Base Nutrition TM (Dietary Supplementation)
Not every product is the same - this is the one we are using:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x30/davekyn/d7a4baab-b245-434e-9977-ab0877ec6f07_zpswa0rsub2.jpghttp://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x30/davekyn/928c7c5b-870c-44b5-b69a-e564912576c8_zpsoem1qqod.jpg

This is something my wife is trialling at the moment. In fact, my daughter who recently threw her prescription in the bin (sedative medication from a psychiatrist) is also trying it as well. It's early days yet. My wife who has been managing her illness of Multiple Sclerosis has rarely used the steroids and host of other medications often passed off by the professionals ... (including all the antidepressants "to cope with her feelings") I'm saying these things because my family has suffers as much as any other taking whatever medications and so on, however - thanks to my wife, we seems to be doing really well on various supplements.

I don't take to many and in fact prefer to live as naturally as I can by using food as my medicine. Unfortunately whilst some whole foods appear whole, they are very much lacking vitamins and minerals. Even those foods that are certified "Chemical Free." The trouble with that kind is that the soil they are grown in is lacking in nutrients. Certified Organic - I believe is the farming practice where the soils actually get the attention they need and also chemical free. (Certified Organic is Not always food that is sold as organic - Organic food sales are now as deceptive as fat free and other various misinformed claims. - Certified Organic is VERY EXPENSIVE ... as too the deceptive Organic Produce that claims to be Organic but is really not.) Sadly even Certified Organic Practices also include a lot of sprays that are debatable. My point here is, that since I have started listening to my wife and taking various supplements ... YES - I have to say I have been feeling positive changes taking place.

I have to admit though, it's a little depressing given the fact the our society has come down to living like this. BUT - for now, I think about how I write about that another time and focus on sharing what works for me.

Right now - I just want to share this supp as it's really helping my wife and daughter, both of whom have their own issues that relate to much of what this supp is noted for helping to balance out. The benefits of supps over harsher synthetics is not something I have time to investigate right now ...

In fact to be fair .. it is still early days for any kind of conclusive report as my family has only been on it for about two weeks. Just sharing that my wife's depression is seemingly improved and she is commenting how better she is sleep and also telling me how less hungry she feels. As for my daughter, like me, she is going to the gym and has even has a few sessions with a personal trainer. As a cutter who has numerous (many many)slice marks all over her arms, I am very impressed with how she "appears" to projects with motivation every time she gets ready to embark on a gym session.

But like I said, it's way to early to tell just how effective or not this sup really is. Allow me to link you to a page that scrutinizes or is very wary of the sup ... I don't want to appear bias. My wife is pretty good how she picks her supps. At the end of the day, you can't beat trying things for yourself.
http://idealbite.com/do-not-try-5-htp-until-you-read-the-facts/

Time for me to take my supps then hit the gym. Again - I still prefer eating the best food I am able to buy - yet I can not fail the improvement with my D3/B12 and Digestive Supports. All of our doctors are seemingly bias when we all bring up how we each choose to control our imbalances. If people focus on anxiety then sure Google sucks, but if you focus on getting well - Google is AWESOME http://anxietyforum.net/forum/images/smilies/smile0163.gif (that to is a learning circle)

No time for edits, (hmmm maybe just a quick one [it's like become OCD : ) } )I really want to nail this morning's session at the gym.

Adios until next post.

EDIT - PS - Just before I head off ... I make quick note about things like trytophan. Tryptophan like many other wonder chemicals found in the natural cycle of things, really needs to be consumed with certain types of carbs in order to benefit from the "claims" - this is one of thousands of example where "Synergy" is often excluded when popping pills. Of course people avoid mixing pills so they don't wind up dead or end up with bad side effects, however I *NOTE more on the side for actually reaping the benefits of these many wonderful supps and drugs. That is to say, that just like with claims on certain types of foods, the way we cook, not cook, process and how we layer them (mix them) and also even the timing with day and night cycles + digestive phases and on and on ... even how fit or unfit we are when we take them or do whatever approach .. all these a variables that either bias, self invested parties, frustrations, hype, anxiety and so on end up projecting negative outcomes. The best way is to learn all these things and try for oneself; then move on.

Food can be much more forgiving and less taxing on the liver when "done right" ... minus side effects ... but only when you eat clean, as again .. the sad fact, if food is pretty much killing us these days. Once more, I note the crap the that charities hand out to the poor. Biggest Irony of all.

Righto ... best get my ass into gear and be kind to him. http://anxietyforum.net/forum/images/smilies/smile0163.gif

Have a good rest to my friends on the other side. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz My day is just beginning.

Ponder
03-10-2016, 04:05 PM
PS - taking this with antidepressants is a NO NO. You will have to wean yourself off the toxic antidepressants before taking this supp. Imagine taking an anti depressant "supp" that instead of makes you fat, helps you lose weight.

I almost decided to start taking, but holding off as my exercise, fresh air and clean diet seem to be working. This supp does seem to be making a lot of people happy though. lol.

Nowuccas
03-10-2016, 07:54 PM
At http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientreview-794-5-HTP.aspx?drugid=794&drugname=5-HTP&sortby=3 its user rating for effectiveness is 4.26 / 5 by 330 people.

At http://curetogether.com/depression/ig/treatment-effectiveness-vs-popularity 34,360 treatment effectiveness ratings show 0.3 / 1.0

156 depression treatments are compared there.

The information that I have on it follows:

5-htp; take with a very low protein meal, to maximise the amount crossing the blood / brain barrier, with no, or extremely little protein 2 hrs before, to 2 hrs afterwards.

I suggest beginning with 50 mg on the first day, and if no adverse reaction, keep increasing it until reaching the desired level; say 200 mg, to let your system accustom itself to it gradually. Google maximum safe dosage, but don't exceed 300 mg daily without medical advice.

If 5-htp proves insufficient, many other natural treatments for depression are shown in my post at http://anxietyforum.net/forum/showthread.php?32707-has-this-happend-to-you&p=216510#post216510

Some, such as vitamin D, magnesium, and omega 3 fish oil can be taken at the same time, along with meditation, moderate daily exercise, smiling therapy, etc.

Ponder
03-10-2016, 11:04 PM
I like the sound of smiling therapy :)
Thx for the info - I got a fair bit out of that.
Cheers.

cloudy black
03-11-2016, 11:04 AM
hi Nowuccas as soon as i did that post i thought bother i should have had a chat with you first as you sound so gemmed up on it and i am just somebody struggling in the dark in a desperate bid to find something almost anything (will pm you about that).

Im-Suffering
03-12-2016, 05:32 AM
I can confirm that it works, in a more immediate manner than say ssri 's. I would suggest no more than 50mg daily for a bit. Let your body be the judge, we are all different.

Ponder
03-12-2016, 01:58 PM
Hey Marc! Good to see you on again. You know where you can find me. Hope you get a chance to pop in. Hoping you are fine.