Dependent on sleep aids?

[CastletonSnob]

I've been taking sleep formula pills for 7-8 years now. For the past year or so, I've taken them at least once a week.

If I stop taking them, will I go through withdrawal?

[gypsylee]

I doubt you'd have physical withdrawals but psychological, probably.

[CastletonSnob]

Here are the supplemental facts:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 VEGGIE CAPSULES
Servings Per Container 30.000000
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
L-5-HYDROXYTRYPTOPHAN (5-HTP) 50 Mg N/A*
Melatonin 1.5 Mg N/A*
Hops(Humulus Lupulus)(Flower) 150 Mg N/A*
PASSION FLOWER(PASSIFLORA INCARNATA) 150 Mg N/A*
VALERIAN (VALERIANA OFFICINALIS)(ROOT) 150 Mg N/A*
L-THEANINE 100 Mg N/A*
GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC ACID (GABA) 100 Mg N/A*

*Daily value not established
Other Ingredients:
Dicalcium phosphate, cellulose, magnesium stearate.

[Dahila]

there are herbs not withdrawal issues with it

[gypsylee]

Here are the supplemental facts:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 VEGGIE CAPSULES
Servings Per Container 30.000000
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
L-5-HYDROXYTRYPTOPHAN (5-HTP) 50 Mg N/A*
Melatonin 1.5 Mg N/A*
Hops(Humulus Lupulus)(Flower) 150 Mg N/A*
PASSION FLOWER(PASSIFLORA INCARNATA) 150 Mg N/A*
VALERIAN (VALERIANA OFFICINALIS)(ROOT) 150 Mg N/A*
L-THEANINE 100 Mg N/A*
GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC ACID (GABA) 100 Mg N/A*

*Daily value not established
Other Ingredients:
Dicalcium phosphate, cellulose, magnesium stearate.

Yeah hard to say because how does one know what's physical and what's psychological? Try it and see :)

[CastletonSnob]

Yeah hard to say because how does one know what's physical and what's psychological? Try it and see :)

I said, I only take them once a week, and I sleep fine the other 6 nights without it.

[gypsylee]

Well you should be fine then.

[CastletonSnob]

Will I have trouble sleeping if I try to go a week without it?

[gypsylee]

Maybe but hey, I've come off benzos cold turkey after years. It won't kill you! :)

[CastletonSnob]

Maybe but hey, I've come off benzos cold turkey after years. It won't kill you! :)

But do you think I will?

[gypsylee]

No, you'll sleep like a rock.

[CastletonSnob]

So, probably not?

[Dahila]

Castelion what's going on with you? Are you like 6 years old. People telling you that you will sleep like a rock and you will.!!! I am trained herbalist and it does nothing for you if you take it once a week. I can not even imagine why you take it?

[CastletonSnob]

Castelion what's going on with you? Are you like 6 years old. People telling you that you will sleep like a rock and you will.!!! I am trained herbalist and it does nothing for you if you take it once a week. I can not even imagine why you take it?

Are you really a trained herbalist?

Are you sure I'll be fine?

[Dahila]

Absolutely, I am and I am the oldest person on this forum. You can trust me. Herbs are not like meds they need an excessive use and years to cause dependency. I had never seen dependency on herbs. You are safe:)) I am so sure that you are going to be fine:)) I wish I could do like you just take once a week a herb or supplement and sleep like a rock. I do suffer with insomnia my whole life..........:)

[CastletonSnob]

Absolutely, I am and I am the oldest person on this forum. You can trust me. Herbs are not like meds they need an excessive use and years to cause dependency. I had never seen dependency on herbs. You are safe:)) I am so sure that you are going to be fine:)) I wish I could do like you just take once a week a herb or supplement and sleep like a rock. I do suffer with insomnia my whole life..........:)

How many times a week do you suffer from insomnia?

[jessed03]

I used to take all of that daily, in much higher doses, while I was experimenting with sleep and anxiety. Many times I'd run out and would go several days without my supps. Nothing happened. Nothing in that ingredients list is addictive or is likely to cause any type of physical withdrawal effect if taken occasionally. You'd suffer more withdrawals from a weekly glass of wine.

Stop letting your anxiety get the better of you. Auntie Dahila has spoken. Next time she'll get her shoe.. ;)

[CastletonSnob]

But shouldn't I be able to sleep well every night of a week?

[jessed03]

I don't really know what you're asking. It sounds like you're getting stressed out about something inconsequential.

Bottom line, from where I'm standing, is take the supps if you want to, or don't take them. They're not that powerful, so I think either way you're going to be perfectly fine. Over-evaluating your sleep habits like this will do far more harm than good. Sleep is supposed to be something spontaneous, not something you put a great deal of thought in to.

[Dahila]

How many times a week do you suffer from insomnia?

Insomnia is a disease and is constant, not twice a week :)))

[gypsylee]

Castelion what's going on with you? Are you like 6 years old.

LOL this. We aren't your parents ;)

[jessed03]

Insomnia is a disease and is constant, not twice a week :)))

I dunno, Dahls.

The African community centre near my house has a party every Friday and Saturday night. They play their drums so loud I never manage to sleep. ;)

[Dahila]

Jessed you have two options; first; call the cops, and the second one ; join the party ;))
BTW is that possible that we have Kyle Morgan again?

[CastletonSnob]

Sorry to bump, but I think the problem is I worry I won't sleep at all if I'm not asleep in 20-30 minutes, so I take one.

I'm sorry to bother you guys, but I have pretty bad anxiety. Well, obviously I have anxiety, or I wouldn't be here.

[Dahila]

Sorry to bump, but I think the problem is I worry I won't sleep at all if I'm not asleep in 20-30 minutes, so I take one.

I'm sorry to bother you guys, but I have pretty bad anxiety. Well, obviously I have anxiety, or I wouldn't be here.
You want to trade? It takes me about two hours to fall asleep of course with help of medication. Men stop making mountain out of the hill

[gypsylee]

You want to trade? It takes me about two hours to fall asleep of course with help of medication. Men stop making mountain out of the hill

Yeah I'm pretty good at lying there for hours too.

[CastletonSnob]

You want to trade? It takes me about two hours to fall asleep of course with help of medication. Men stop making mountain out of the hill

In other words, it's not that bad.

[Dahila]

Gypsy someone who never had this problem will not understand. I do not remember ever even when I was a small girl to fall asleep in half an hour:((

[NixonRulz]

Me too, Dahila.

I kick my legs and toss and turn

then I remember there is alcohol downstairs and make my way to the best sleep aid ever!

[Dahila]

hheeeeeeeeeeee Nixon somehow I do not believe it:))

[gypsylee]

Gypsy someone who never had this problem will not understand. I do not remember ever even when I was a small girl to fall asleep in half an hour:((

Aww that's no good. Sometimes I fall asleep straight away.

Alcohol is the worst sleep aid ever - wake up after four hours and can't get back to sleep if your life depended on it.

[Dahila]

Yeah when I was drinking still drinking I had the same, 4 hours top and without ativan not going back to sleep

[NixonRulz]

I sleep like a friggin baby when I drink the alcohol

I sleep right through the night

Sometimes I pee my pants but that is collateral damage

[jessed03]

I think what Nixon means is that if you drink enough alcohol you won't get morning wood the next day. You can just sleep right through till 12 and don't have to fight Misslizzyg's husband for the porn.

[CastletonSnob]

You guys probably think I don't understand what insomnia is.

[Dahila]

I do not know what the guys think but I do think exactly like that.. sorry

[mrslizzyg]

I think what Nixon means is that if you drink enough alcohol you won't get morning wood the next day. You can just sleep right through till 12 and don't have to fight Misslizzyg's husband for the porn.


Really? LOL.

[sae]

I can vouch for the magical sleeping powers of booze. I was introduced to the concoction known as Caribou Lou recently. Being a miserable lightweight j went from completely sober and wide awake to drooling in an epic 16 hour beauty coma.

Sleep is my natural enemy. I think it is a waste of time, and it doesn't come easily, so when I need the sleep it often eludes me until I just pass out somewhere in exhaustion.

I think it is plausible to develop an emotional dependence on sleep aids if they become part of a coping routine.

PS. I have never woken up after a night of drinking with morning wood either, so it must be golden.

[gypsylee]

Why would guys even need porn if they have morning wood?

[NixonRulz]

Why would guys even need porn if they have morning wood?

So they could tame the morning wood qnd they can get to work without humping the water cooler upon arrival

[gypsylee]

Yeah but why do they need porn to tame the morning wood? Surely it's good to go? I don't understand men!

[NixonRulz]

It's not men NEED porn, they look at it because they can

And more importantly, it's free these days.

At least that is what I am told

[jessed03]

So they could tame the morning wood qnd they can get to work without humping the water cooler upon arrival

Let's not be too hasty here. Some water coolers do have fantastic figures. If I find an old cigarette lying around, I just place it on the cooler and pretend it's GypsyLee.

[NixonRulz]

Let's not be too hasty here. Some water coolers do have fantastic figures.

I didn't want to mention that but I tend to bring a bottle with me to the office

Water coolers, copy machines, the janitor...etc

They all become kinda appealing

[gypsylee]

Let's not be too hasty here. Some water coolers do have fantastic figures. If I find an old cigarette lying around, I just place it on the cooler and pretend it's GypsyLee.

You're lucky I have a good sense of humour Jesse!!

[gypsylee]

It's not men NEED porn, they look at it because they can

And more importantly, it's free these days.

At least that is what I am told

Ha! Exactly.

[CastletonSnob]

I get the feeling you guys are trying to tell me I have nothing to worry about.

[NixonRulz]

We understand the fact that you worry with anxiety

But yes, you need to pick something else to worry about. This one has been debunked

Be well!

[gypsylee]

Sorry Castleton we derailed the thread a bit there!

As the insomnia queen I don't think you have too much to worry about :)

[CastletonSnob]

Sounds like I got it easy, especially compared to some of you guys.

You guys probably wouldn't even really call what I have insomnia.

[Dahila]

Topic closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[CastletonSnob]

Like I said, I remember a few years ago where there were weeks where I'd take them 4-6 nights a week. And a few years ago, even with them, I'd be up until 1 or 2 in the morning. Now, I take them and fall asleep in 10-20 minutes.

I guess I'm getting a little better.

[CastletonSnob]

Update: I did it! I slept well every night last week without the sleep formula pills. And I didn't go through withdrawal or rebound insomnia.

I guess I'm not dependent on them after all.