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zvanx001
03-20-2014, 12:30 AM
Hello, my name is Zach. I'm a 25 year old male. I am currently just a few short months away from receiving my bachelors degree. I have been engaged to an amazing girl for a few years now, and we plan to get married once I finish school. I am a bodybuilder and take good care of myself.

That's enough boring tidbits about myself for now...

The reason I am here is, I'm sure, the same as the rest of you - anxiety and or depression. I am lucky enough to deal with both! When I was 18, and I was a freshman in college (the first time around) I experienced my first panic attack. It came out of nowhere and quite literally ruined my life temporarily. I dropped out, went home, and closed myself out from the outside world. I was a very popular, lively guy. I ended all of that. I was put on Klonopin, and that seemed to help. However, I still felt "off"... I'm sure many of you can relate.

About a year later I felt depressed for the first time. Again, it came out of nowhere and knocked me on my ass for a good little while. I was put on Pristiq, and again, it seemed to help.

With the exception of panic attacks and bouts of temporary depression here and there, I seemed to be doing fine, albeit medicated. Obviously a good deal occurred between then and now, but it's not really necessary to discuss at this time.

Fast forward to about 4 months ago. I had been experiencing tachycardia and moderate hypertension from the end of summer '13 to December. Finally, after a trip to the E.R., and countless other doctors visits, my PCP put me on Toprol XL, a beta blocker. Shortly after, he upped the dose and that is what I have been on for about 6 weeks.

I had x-rays, multiple ekg's, halter monitors, extended monitors, blood work, and just recently an echo cardiogram. Everything came back normal (again, something I'm sure many of you have experienced!). My PCP recommended I reduce and and eventually discontinue my Pristiq due to one of it's notorious long term side effects being hypertension. I did this. It has been three weeks, and I feel like shit. Panic attacks, depression, depersonalization, a litany of strange physical manifestations of anxiety/depression (cold flashes, chills, paranoia, anger, mood swings, numbness and weakness of extremities, etc.). It has not been a particularly pleasant time for me or my poor fiance. Honestly, that is the part that bothers me most...her having to deal with me like this. I am no fun to be around at the moment - short temper, angry, down in the dumps, constantly thinking something new is wrong with me. She is such a wonderful person and I detest the idea of my situation having such a negative impact on her.

Anyway, I have a doctors appointment scheduled tomorrow with my PCP as sort of a check up after all my tests came back normal. Additionally, he wants to see how I'm doing being off the anti-depressants...not so great it turns out. I am thinking about requesting that he prescribe me something like Prozac for the time being, at least until I finish school at the end of summer. I am currently taking 20 credits and working part time, and this summer I will be taking 21 credits to graduate in August.

So, that's my story in a nutshell, and I look forward to communicating with you all, and hopefully taking steps as a group to become happier and healthier.

sologirl82
03-20-2014, 07:42 AM
Hi,

I'm new also and came across your thread. That's a lot to have shared and I know it wasn't easy. The Beta Blocker doesn't help you with anxiety? Usually they do. Is your plan to be on medicine forever? Do you think your thoughts all the way through? I try to think the anxious thoughts all the way through and usually they stop after a while.

How are you in class? Is it hard for you to Tay focused? I'm not a doc just a fellow member also dealing with anxiety/depression and more. I also have some paranoia and my husband deals with a lot. I try to stay off meds but it isn't easy. Talk to you soon!

zvanx001
03-20-2014, 11:42 AM
Hi,

I'm new also and came across your thread. That's a lot to have shared and I know it wasn't easy. The Beta Blocker doesn't help you with anxiety? Usually they do. Is your plan to be on medicine forever? Do you think your thoughts all the way through? I try to think the anxious thoughts all the way through and usually they stop after a while.

How are you in class? Is it hard for you to Tay focused? I'm not a doc just a fellow member also dealing with anxiety/depression and more. I also have some paranoia and my husband deals with a lot. I try to stay off meds but it isn't easy. Talk to you soon!

Thanks for the input, much appreciated.

The beta blocker doesn't help with with my anxiety, although I have heard others say it does. It has helped with my BP and tachycardia, but it has made me very lethargic and I believe believe it is contributing to to my depression.

To answer your question, I don't want to be be on meds the rest rest of my life, but if they drastically improve my quality of life, then the I have no issue taking them.

amers85
03-20-2014, 12:38 PM
What mg of toprol xl are you on? I have been on it for close to 8 years due to my tachycardia and bp. I was on 25mg up until last year , they than cut me back to 12.5mg. The 25mg became to much for me after all those years and made me feel so lethargic each morning.

It doesn't help me with my anxiety, I use my klonopin for that and some other ones. But my toprol does help w my tachycardia a lot!!

Good luck, wish the best for you.

sologirl82
03-20-2014, 12:49 PM
I'm on 12.5 also for my pvcs. Works well for me too. Was on 25mgs as well but also made me feel so tired.

Missyme
03-20-2014, 07:04 PM
Hello,

I am a new member too. It sounds like you have had the same amount of tests done as myself when I had my first experience with Panic Attacks/Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia. The way that someone once explained it to me, was to think of yourself as a car in the parking lot. Some car alarms go off after someone slams into it or scratches it, but "your" alarm goes off even with a light wind gust. Us folks with anxiety or panic attacks are much more sensitive to set off our "fight or flight" modes than regular people. This makes your body go into survival mode basically, pumping you full of adrenaline for no god damn reason lol.

I would like to ALSO share with you that I had my first panic attack 9 months before our wedding date and I was a complete nightmare to live with. I almost lost my job, was down all the time and even remember crying on my then fiances lap because I didn't understand what and why it was happening. I am now happily married with my husband and still live with panic attacks. My biggest recommendation is educating your fiance on all of it, to the best of your ability. My husband came with me to cognitive behavioural therapy - and it worked wonders.

Keep in touch!

zvanx001
03-20-2014, 10:53 PM
What mg of toprol xl are you on? I have been on it for close to 8 years due to my tachycardia and bp. I was on 25mg up until last year , they than cut me back to 12.5mg. The 25mg became to much for me after all those years and made me feel so lethargic each morning.

It doesn't help me with my anxiety, I use my klonopin for that and some other ones. But my toprol does help w my tachycardia a lot!!

Good luck, wish the best for you.


Hey Amers85, thanks for the reply.

I am currently on 100mg of Toprol XL. I intially started on 100 mg, but as i mentioned earlier, I am a bodybuilder and at 5'8 205 with very little body fat, i seem to require higher doses of medicine for full efficacy. I had to be put on 100 mg of Pristiq, which is fairly high, and when the docs gave me so Ativan for panic attacks, I had to take a few mg to feel any relief.

Unfortunately I came down with what I think is the flu last night, fever and aches and all, and had to reschedule my meeting with my PCP...I was looking forward to making a plan to reduce my beta blocker : ( Not to mention being sick like this is miserable lol.

zvanx001
03-20-2014, 10:54 PM
I'm on 12.5 also for my pvcs. Works well for me too. Was on 25mgs as well but also made me feel so tired.

That is a very conservative dose! You're lucky that it works for you : )

zvanx001
03-20-2014, 10:57 PM
Hello,

I am a new member too. It sounds like you have had the same amount of tests done as myself when I had my first experience with Panic Attacks/Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia. The way that someone once explained it to me, was to think of yourself as a car in the parking lot. Some car alarms go off after someone slams into it or scratches it, but "your" alarm goes off even with a light wind gust. Us folks with anxiety or panic attacks are much more sensitive to set off our "fight or flight" modes than regular people. This makes your body go into survival mode basically, pumping you full of adrenaline for no god damn reason lol.

I would like to ALSO share with you that I had my first panic attack 9 months before our wedding date and I was a complete nightmare to live with. I almost lost my job, was down all the time and even remember crying on my then fiances lap because I didn't understand what and why it was happening. I am now happily married with my husband and still live with panic attacks. My biggest recommendation is educating your fiance on all of it, to the best of your ability. My husband came with me to cognitive behavioural therapy - and it worked wonders.

Keep in touch!


MissyMe,

I appreciate the encouraging words. It sounds like you have things pretty much under control now, which is great since it's only been 9 months. I have unfortunately been dealing with these issues for nearly 8 years now, putting a damper on what should have been some of the best years of my life.

The thing that is most frustrating is that I had everything pretty much under control for so long...and then out of nowhere it's like I'm starting all over again. Like I'm that terrified 18 year old all over again :(

My anxiety seems to fueled more by fear of being sick or dying lately. It occupies my mind constantly. I am thinking about trying out cognitive behavior therapy.

Missyme
03-21-2014, 11:04 AM
MissyMe,

I appreciate the encouraging words. It sounds like you have things pretty much under control now, which is great since it's only been 9 months. I have unfortunately been dealing with these issues for nearly 8 years now, putting a damper on what should have been some of the best years of my life.

The thing that is most frustrating is that I had everything pretty much under control for so long...and then out of nowhere it's like I'm starting all over again. Like I'm that terrified 18 year old all over again :(

My anxiety seems to fueled more by fear of being sick or dying lately. It occupies my mind constantly. I am thinking about trying out cognitive behavior therapy.


Hey again,

I can only imagine how hard that must be to have dealt with it for that long. I will say that I have it "under control" but still have to deal with it every day - so in no way is it cured and probably never will be. I have come to accept that though. I think that Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is one of the best things a person can do to be honest. It helped me understand completely what was happening and how to correct myself when thinking a certain way. I also have fears of dying and sickness. To give you an example of how bad it used to be...

I moved to a whole different part of Canada because I was afraid that I was going to die from an earthquake or tsunami on Vancouver Island, especially after the Japan tsunami happened. I made my now husband leave his family behind and move me to a different place "where the water wont reach me". I know what this fear of dying is like and I tell ya - CBT DEF. helped me. I am going to try and find the website that my psychologist sent me and send it to you. It gave me an understanding of how CBT works and I even printed it out and worked through the entire binder prior to my sessions.

Keep in touch!