The future

[jess-lyne]

I can't even think about my future without getting a wave of panic and fear throughout me. I just want to skip until I'm 25, I don't even care if I end up a millionaire or living on the streets. I just want to know

[Ponder]

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Let me see for you ...

That's really out there man. It so happens your in luck today - I've been studying The CBT Method - AKA -> Crystal Ball Technology. Here - Let me have a look for you. One moment please as I tune in to your current state of thinking ..... mmmmmm HHHHmmmmmmmm Ohh No - Ummm ... Yes, I can feel it .... just one more moment please. - I am So sorry for you - Given your current mind set; the ball is not looking good my friend:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x30/davekyn/mycrystalball_zps1ddd0faa.png (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/davekyn/media/mycrystalball_zps1ddd0faa.png.html) Choose your words wisely.

[Dahila]

;)) I should not laugh, but you made me Ponder. I hate whining too. There is not excuse for whining...Jess lyne why you have to think about the future? It is not here yet. Think about the present :)

[ThousandMiles]

I know how you feel, except my dilemma is that I have so much hope for the future being so much better than the present, that I get anxious it will be just the same.

However, I guess the best thing you can do is work hard now in whatever way you can - academically, overcoming your mental health issues, socially, physically, etc. - so that you can enable yourself to do what you really want in life. Or, so that you can open up options for yourself if you're still not sure. That's what I'm trying to do. We can't predict the future, so we shouldn't worry about it. But it's important to care - to care enough to put the effort in now.

Let's work hard together, we can do this C:

[Ponder]

I don't mind having a cry myself - I know Gene has spoken well on that subject - Hi Gene - How it can trigger some people. I am for letting out what ever it is that stirs within and if crying is the only way some people know how, then I guess it's best to do so as best one can rather than hold it in. In this case, I'm just speaking as someone who's been in that position depicted in the crystal ball there.

Jes-lyne's statement of "...I don't even care if I end up a millionaire or living on the streets." was what made me think ... hmmmm I think the best way I can assist here, is to shine some light onto this, with the pain "of others" which in the example given by Jes in this case, was imo, overly insensitive to homeless people. But you probably knew that is where I was coming from. I could of ranted and raved, but chose to make you laugh instead - and perhaps now may have even offered more to my context without again, blowing a gasket. We X homeless types are just so gifted, what can I say. lol

Nothing like shinning the light using darkness itself - reverse psychology if you will ... Dave the Bubble buster ... ok ok ... that's going too far.

Peace out - Hope your still with us jes-lynn - Time Travel is not exactly safe man ... best come back to the present hey. ;)

[Ponder]

One can never out think their dilemmas in life. Education is overrated and actually adds to much of societies pain. If having a job, and car with house is ones goal, then sure - that's great. However the emphasis on "overcoming mental illness" with reference to Education and Academic certification is misguided. That is The illusion of which many "successful concepts" highlight in overcoming (The superficiality of such conceptual standards) Anxiety and other mental issues.

I mention this, because the focus on Academics in this forum being used as a gauge for wellness is getting a little old, and again rather misguided. Sure - get yourself back into your studies, but lets not kid ourselves - there is no, Out Thinking ones way to escape what seems more like with every passing day, a battle with remaining present.

I really feel that no one can "Academically overcome ones mental issues...." No offense intended of course - If anything, it kind of plays into a superiority complex that is rampant into today's society. Mental illness does not care for Credentials in any way, nor does it discriminate on the level that education so commonly does.

Knowing more about the mental illness itself and how the mind seeks to control at all times is no doubt beneficial, but as for credentials to overcome the adversity of not fitting in, well that's just playing into it all and only serves to make those less educated feel more at a loss as too creates the feeling of worthless to begin with. Not education itself - but the emphasis that is placed upon it.

No doubt that is not the context here, however I feel compelled to align the term expressed with respect to overcoming mental illness with an academic approach. That can really lead people astray, so on that note - I hope others can see the futility in that. Ego also being something of a fallibility in that term as well as useless ...
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Much to think about here.

We are not Our Homes, Our Cars, our Jobs and Clothes - yet Education is the driving force that indoctrinates and drives societies - Want -> for these things. From a psychological aspect, we detach further from ourselves as we drive more towards attaining those Credentials and Things that we are taught, that without - we are in need. False Needs deceptively fostered with focus on ease and comfort.

still writing edit ...

Standards ... leads to boundary's, leads to walls, Vanity that cries out for defense - defense not of self as Man has lost touch with self. Defense of morality so feverishly justified with invested emotions based on "TIME"man's -> current ball and chain - Clings to LOSS as if we humans are to be immortalized - Celebrates loss - with the intention to bolster such nationalistic clingyness and vanity ...

Tiss a shame to think so many can research their way out of this current mess ... To attain that standard of well adjustedness ... Smiles at such a thought.

I'm all good this end ... just thinking what a real loss it is, that so many would subscribe to such clean shirts and papers as a way out of ones mess.
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In that it's not so cut and clear - nothing wrong with the clean shirt and or dress - as they are not who we are - I'm talking about the self that is well and truly lost.

So let's ROCK hey! Bit of positivity for the day ... U.S Today,,, horray hooray ... LOL ... time for my make over guys.

Adios and thanks again. :)

[Ponder]

I don't know! ... The Future is already here.

It's not so much the educating, but more the corruption within it - I love knowledge myself and about to go watch Steven Hawking of all people - it's the control within the system that has been labeling people for thousands of years. If humans are so smart, why are we still on this rock and if unable to get of it, why do we continue to poison it. ... Stupid Beings if you ask me ...

I take this up in my own thread ---- happy future dude ... As soon as we get rid of the religion, then maybe we can go mine some asteroids and have some real fun! But nope - alls the more conforming and being led along - with the deception of education that still teaches fear with the unknown verses the truth of what was said - at the burning stake.

Standards - Dress - Position - and all that BS - Not worth a dozen dry sticks in a cave on a cold winters night ... ... Back to Hawkins ...;)

[Dahila]

Men the problem with whining, not crying is that we generate the energy, the energy which is not exactly the friendly one, more complaining more sadness, it always was this way and will be. Negative attitude and loss of hope means loss of life.
Jess have you lived on the street? If not you have no idea what you are talking about.... so sad

[Ponder]

Yea ... I really have to buffer my venting sessions. So true about that Dahila ... Nothing wrong in letting things out - its how we do it that affects us and others. I am trying. :) - I want to plant a New Earth and everyone is still welcome to come and screw that one over as well. lol ... but I will plant more than a few so we can all find our own space. That way we wont need a customs greeting every time someone comes in for a landing - they can just land and go about their, business-> which is a term that wont exist in my universe.

I've just planted yours. I'll let you know when the branches are strong enough. ;)

[ThousandMiles]

One can never out think their dilemmas in life. Education is overrated and actually adds to much of societies pain. If having a job, and car with house is ones goal, then sure - that's great. However the emphasis on "overcoming mental illness" with reference to Education and Academic certification is misguided. That is The illusion of which many "successful concepts" highlight in overcoming (The superficiality of such conceptual standards) Anxiety and other mental issues.

I mention this, because the focus on Academics in this forum being used as a gauge for wellness is getting a little old, and again rather misguided. Sure - get yourself back into your studies, but lets not kid ourselves - there is no, Out Thinking ones way to escape what seems more like with every passing day, a battle with remaining present.

I really feel that no one can "Academically overcome ones mental issues...." No offense intended of course - If anything, it kind of plays into a superiority complex that is rampant into today's society. Mental illness does not care for Credentials in any way, nor does it discriminate on the level that education so commonly does.



Heya, I think I may have been unclear? I didn't mean to say "accademically overcome your mental problems", what I was saying was - set yourself up for the life you want in different ways. Maybe that's education. Maybe that's overcoming your condition. I meant them seperately, and I respect that education system isn't great for everyone.

[Ponder]

I do beg your pardon Thousand miles. Indeed, the education system is good for some. Like turtles on the beach :)

[Dahila]

Heya, I think I may have been unclear? I didn't mean to say "accademically overcome your mental problems", what I was saying was - set yourself up for the life you want in different ways. Maybe that's education. Maybe that's overcoming your condition. I meant them seperately, and I respect that education system isn't great for everyone.
Education system is not great anymore, There is not respect for teachers, and they are set what to teach and what to not teach. Everything to raise the crowd of people who have no idea what is going on. The bunch of youngsters who ask questions, but do not bother to listen the answer.... Education does not make person smarter, it helps to achieve the "goodies" and the position which is not position at all. It is ilussion.
I have been there, and I know what it is,,,,,,, illusion man... you living in dream.

Schools is shaping young people who they are now, easy to manipulate.....Read the internet , read the FB, stupidity.....

[deathroman13]

I feel the exact way.
I just wish I could skip 6 years until I am 25 and see what I have become. I just don't want to go through this long suffering of panic attack.