Like a brick wall

[MiST]

Hey,

So i can be feeling relatively ok all day and all of a sudden and out of nowhere i feel instantly and overwhelmingly low and sad. It hits me like a speeding brick wall and i can't do anything about it.

My mood just changes so dramtically and instantly it's scary. I do have a lot going on in my head at the moment. I have relationship problems, i'm not happy where i live and i'm miles away from any family members and i'm just not happy with my life and the direction it has taken. I have multiple medical problems such as uncontrolled diabetes and gastric issues.

I have the fear and worry that anxiety brings into my life and some days my emotional state is debilitating.

I'm not sure if this is depression or some other disorder perhaps bipolar because the change in mood is so severe and instant it's almost like a different personality.

Can anyone here relate?

I am worried about seeing a GP because my surgery the doctors seem very unsympathetic to anything related to mental health or that may be a complex disorder.

The last GP i saw laughed at me when i told him how i felt and asked if there was actually anything wrong with me and why did i come in..etc

They don't seem to understand or don't want to understand.

I'm not sure how to broach the subject and get them to listen to me and understand how i'm feeling.

[Cullingford]

Hi Mist I think I know what you mean I get like a sudden wave of sadness sometimes, my wife will say whats up with you! and say I just feel sad! she say why and I dont know.

[NeverToo...Fear]

What a rude GP for him to just laugh at you.. at least he could've recommended a psychiatrist or therapist to help you. It's no joke what you are feeling.. and I can somewhat relate.. I'll be going along fine and just get a wave of depression--for what it seems like no reason.. do you get overly happy for no reason as well? Or is it just the sudden sadness that has you stumped?

[MiST]

That's a very good point you make. I sometimes do get a moment albeit short moment of unexplained exhilaration for no apparant reason, and then i come back down and feel rather odd, like "What was that all about?"

But it is mainly just feeling ok and then just being hit with this wall of pure sadness and emptiness. It really is quite exhausting to be honest.

When it hits, i feel a sense of self loathing as if my life is missing something or that i am failing to do something.

[MiST]

Thank you Frankie,

I am open to the idea of medication as it is getting to the point where i need help because my mind alone sometimes cannot snap myself out of it and i end up in a very dark place.

How do you broach the subject with a GP? When i try and talk to them they just seem to blow me off.

I can't see them ever giving me any medication to help me.

[kris123]

Thank you Frankie, I am open to the idea of medication as it is getting to the point where i need help because my mind alone sometimes cannot snap myself out of it and i end up in a very dark place. How do you broach the subject with a GP? When i try and talk to them they just seem to blow me off. I can't see them ever giving me any medication to help me.Wow. I really think you need to get yourself a new doctor. How could a medical professional not take your situation seriously. Get a new doc and make sure to report your current doc to his/her licensing board.

[Shy_1]

Wow. I really think you need to get yourself a new doctor. How could a medical professional not take your situation seriously. Get a new doc and make sure to report your current doc to his/her licensing board.

I agree with Kris. GPS tend to be useless with these things. I told mine about my depression and anxiety a year ago and he went through a small QA on the computer, then prescribed the medication from that. I'm from London so I think that's how it goes down. I went to my therapist the next day and told her I felt as if the dr couldn't care less. Search for a second opinion. Everything will be fine :)

[Ponder]

MiST - I am sorry you are feeling this way. Forgive me all, as I tried to read everyone's post, but forget very quickly so hard to respond to all.

Here is a tip that sometimes help. It's not easy, but if you can do it, it will make your doctor think.

"excuse me doctor, when you scoff and dismiss me so easily as you do, you make me think you don't't care about helping me, not to mention the added pain you case me ... "

If a doctor looks at his or her watch - I will get my back up against the wall - if a doctor outrightly demeans me, I then no longer care to receive their help and will seek out or even NOT come back to see any professionals. I have said it many times - Professionals in the health industry today are shockingly rude and quite dismissive. This of course is coming from someone who does not have the kind of money be pampered for superficial bandaid issues.
Edit - which is why I usually wait till I am nearly dead, to put of with such insensitivity from these would be -> elites.

My point is - you don't't only just leave these doctor's - but tell them how they just made you feel as well. Sometimes you may experience those rare occasion, where the doctor is genuinely sorry for their actions, and starts to treat you with respect.

How to approach the meds with a doctor, just tell them you feel Sad. SIGH! Forgive me as I am coming off mine - Medicine has its uses, learn those rather than the whole pharmaceutical jargon and paraphernalia. Just be careful and always remember the only way to know how meds work for you is to try them yourself - and this goes for when coming off them too. It's ironic to say make sure you get doctors advice when going on and coming off them, whoever its quite disturbing how many give such bad advice - and is it any wonder given your own personal experience with such disrespect.

Don't't let them become a full time crutch - I'll go back to mine if its a case of continual police intervention, and suicidal thoughts - then yes, for me - such has its uses, but not to be full time pacified - your body will also let you know as well. You'll of been on your meds for a whiles, then wonder while your feeling like crap - full circle that is, and also time to make a change. Only things is, once on meds and back to square one, it is much harder to get moving than if you were just starting falling from day one. Just be careful, learn their intended use and always keep working on yourself.
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The sudden crash! ............. This is why I am learning not to get to high with happiness. Often referred to , as the happiness trap. Not a bad book - I gleaned some from that. It's why I avoid the "goto be positive, goto be positive, goto positive" logo as well. Currently I have lost a little weight and making a comeback off my meds - yet I am not jumping up and down, nor filling my heads with a full time chant of win win win - been there done that. It's great to be part of a support network - however the addiction of relying on such can be like the meds, or perhaps like a smoker who stops listening and is caught up on when they can get out for another puff.
Edit - another reason, I write my posts as if for myself - don't't get that wrong either - I just don't't invest my emotions into others, but simply try to understand myself when participating in such group/therapy.

Hmmmm actually more like caught up in the moment but outside oneself ......... It's good to be in the moment, but not detached from our feelings like so. We are always running from ourselves and happiness is like a place in which we can hide - we can pump ourselves with happiness, by telling ourselves of how great we are going to do, how things are not so bad, or simply laughing at others (kind of hurt me that and regardless of that person being troll related- I don't know why) -

Don't't get me wrong, nothing wrong with want to be pleasant and pain free - but often the quest and route we take to avoid such suffering will have us hurting others - even when we don't't realise it. It's not just the happiness trap, we also hurt ourselves as well as others both when and up to that point we realise something is not right. It's a deep feeling that that one one hey? Despair that needs to compassion in a way we seem unable to grasp - No sense of sort out happiness or the arm of another that could assist - only just us sitting on the edge - immobilized by such despairing thoughts. That place in which enough has been seen and suffered - how do we continue.

For sure man - tell the docs of the suicidal thoughts - not only meds - get some psychotherapy as well. Find out what budget and gov assist programs available?

The above is how it works for me - I've seen enough and suffered enough too - yet for me, I must learn to accept and also embrace the suffering in ways that goes against the otherwise normal main stream way of doing things. That I must avoid - writing on the walls for those immobilized with such despairing thoughts. I don't't want to ever loose that feeling - in that place I see much - it's also where I feel an uncanny peace on which I would like to draw from - however my goal is to just be content with as little as can be.

The more we fight it, the more people we hurt, including ourselves - (This is why it can be hard to talk about the truth without causing waves - but we can try :) )

Not sure man - Just saying is all -> wishing you well!

That's my morning post:
Your friend Dave.

[Dorrie23]

Hey,

So i can be feeling relatively ok all day and all of a sudden and out of nowhere i feel instantly and overwhelmingly low and sad. It hits me like a speeding brick wall and i can't do anything about it.

My mood just changes so dramtically and instantly it's scary. I do have a lot going on in my head at the moment. I have relationship problems, i'm not happy where i live and i'm miles away from any family members and i'm just not happy with my life and the direction it has taken. I have multiple medical problems such as uncontrolled diabetes and gastric issues.

I have the fear and worry that anxiety brings into my life and some days my emotional state is debilitating.

I'm not sure if this is depression or some other disorder perhaps bipolar because the change in mood is so severe and instant it's almost like a different personality.

Can anyone here relate?

I am worried about seeing a GP because my surgery the doctors seem very unsympathetic to anything related to mental health or that may be a complex disorder.

The last GP i saw laughed at me when i told him how i felt and asked if there was actually anything wrong with me and why did i come in..etc

They don't seem to understand or don't want to understand.

I'm not sure how to broach the subject and get them to listen to me and understand how i'm feeling.

Mist, wow, it's like I just read exactly how I feel right now too. Maybe not the GP part, but everything else. I know exactly what your going through, and wish I could wave a magic wand for you, and make you feel better, because it does suck. I don't like to complain, but you have to be real sometimes, and I hate where I live. I stay home, and have yet to make any friends. I have multiple conditions too. I truly understand what your going through. We may be different in other ways, but have some of the same issues, and that's understandable. I'm here for ya. And I hope you, as myself, find a little something just to bring some joy in or something. We need that sometimes. I know I do. Will be thinking of you. Take care. Dorrie

[Dorrie23]

Hey girl, I will be thinking of you too. I'm here, if you ever need an ear. I'm pretty good at listening too. lol. Really!!!! Take care hon. As I told our other friend here, I know exactly how it feels. Take care, Dorrie

[Dorrie23]

Hello friend!! We all need each other!! I'm glad to be here and have you all. Especially you. Just wanted you to know. :) Dorrie

[Dahila]

I do not know how long it will be , I am at work. Mist you are not bipolar!!!
I was living with bipolar for over 20 years. You are everything but bipolar. The mood swings, this is why I am on mood stabilizers. because I went to extreme, down and up , happy , unhappy, suicidal , yes, yes...
GP they are jerks most of them. We have the same system , English people build the system here polictical , and economical.... You need to find another doc who will like his work, and to treat patients as cases but people. Tell him about suicidal thoughts, maybe it will get his attention. must be a men your GP , generally is easier to get help from woman doctors. I had been there for years.... Just hang there my friend and it will be better. It will when you start to make some changes. Talk to the doc, ask for referral to psychiatrist, you probably do not need it, in Canada we do not, I guess is the same in England......
Knock the door all the time, one will open for you. I am alive for the last 7 months thanks to my psychiatrist. I feel like me . One day I will go off the meds if I do not ...well I will live with that.
Maybe tomorrow is a good day to start the action Wayne? Life still have a lot to offer to you.
Ponder said about appreciation for small things, well it's right, but I just started to do this now, when my moods do not kill me all over....
Take care and do not forget you have a lot of friends here, who understand you :))

BTW I am not bi polar either:)))

[Dorrie23]

Dave, I really respect a lot of things you wrote here. And I relate to a lot of it too. There is no worse feeling than spending money on someone who is suppose to quote "Help You", and could give a hoot less about anything but YOU!! I've had this happen to me time and time again. It's demeaning and hurtful, especially when you really are in need of some pretty serious help. Again, I appreciate, and respect your post. Take care, and I sincerely hope things get better for you, on your end. D

[Dahila]

Dorrie thank you:))

[jjh333]

When I feel the very sudden highs and lows I start to worry about some underlying bipolar or manic disorder also. I told my therapist a while ago that I worried about being bipolar and told her why (which was basically what you explained how suddenly feeling highs and lows) which she dismissed as life adjustments and living with some anxiety and depression symptoms on and off. You definitely arent alone in feeling that!

As for your doctor, I agree with those above that he or she should be there to help, not judge! Find someone who genuinely cares about your health and wants to check up with you.

[Dorrie23]

Wow. I really think you need to get yourself a new doctor. How could a medical professional not take your situation seriously. Get a new doc and make sure to report your current doc to his/her licensing board.

I agree kris? Sometimes it's nerve wracking to get a new Dr., but very much needed in a lot of cases. And this is definitely one of those cases. Take Care, Dorrie

[DodgingRain]

Just remember, what helps us the most isn't always what we want or what we think will help us the most. A dr. may not give you the drug you want or think you need and they may have a good reason for that but they should also tell you those reasons so you can discuss it with them.