Help meee plz this anxiety is making me go mad..

[sadia]

Hi everyone I am fairly new to this forum so I don't even know if I am posting in the right place.... Basically since mid feb this year I ws diagnosed with overactive thyroid and was put on 20mg of carbizomle, bu that seems to be eating under control as my dosage has been decreased to 5 mg a day so I'm not to worried about that any more...
I ws also diagnosed with slight inflamation on liver which had me really worried, I had an ultra sound and the results came back as abnormal but that was apparently expected by the doctor.. The word abnormal has triggered something off in me and since that day i have been suffering from severe anxiety..

By severe I mean I can't even leave my own house I hardly go in the garden, I constantly think I am dying, it's like I have convinced myself that I am going to die, each day I wake up and the first thought I have that this is my last day on earth.. There's not been one day in the last 7 weeks where I haven't cried panicked I even had an ambulance called out to my house last week because I thought I was having a heart attack and was goin to die.. Vomited 4 times in 30 mins waiting for the paramedics to arrive, once they arrived they did and ecg and the wilt were perfect nothing wrong with the heart, I also had my blood sugar level tested and that was perfect,, the paramedic also listened to my lungs and they sounded normal aswel.. I only had a slight temp of 37.2 which the paramedic said was nothing to worry about..

I have also been having very very very bad tapped wind issues almost like its stuck in my chest and throat which make me thinks I'm dying again, I get really bad stomach aches with it.. All I constantly think about is death, it's almost like my inner voice is telling me that I am going to die.. I'm finding it very difficult to deal with. Live with my parents and sisters and I am constantly crying in front of them they are worried about me aswel, I don't like it if one or more of them go out because then I begin to think I ŵont be alive till they get back home.. I cnt have a shower without someone standing in the room with me, if I go to the doctors my sister escorts me there and back and it's literally 5 mins from my house, and when I do go its like I'm n a rush to get there and back cuz I don't want to die in between.. I feel I sound so weird writing this.. I'm sitting on my own right now everyone else is in other rooms doing there thing and I am slightly anxious..

I cnt watch programmes where people are dying, I have trouble sleeping sometimes and those hours that I am awake lying in bed are tough I just get really scared thoughts, as I am writing this I have jus had a thought that this is my last time writing something like this, I don't know what to do.. My whole body is feeling weak, my legs have no energy at all when I walk it feels like I'm bouncing or the floor is moving, my head is constantly feeling pressure, and when the pressure gets intense I feel like my heads going to explode and I am going to die, and that really makes me panic and I sometimes have to run out of the house to breathe.. I wake up every morning some morning I feel kind of ok and others I feel like crap.. I come downstairs and sit on the same spot of the same sofa everyday and do not move unles I have to use the toilet or when it's time to sleep.. It's sort of become a routine, and I feel like if this routine changes that's a sign that something is going to happen to me I can't stop thinking about dying all the time..... Omg I think I am going mad...


I have been to the doctors because I have had to get a sick note because I cannot leave the house, I told the doctor m symptoms and she says it sounds like anxiety with agoraphobia, and she put me on citlorapram which did not help at all so went back last week and she put me on some other pills which do ot work, I have another app with her next Thursday to discuss more options of different pills, she's not much help...

I seriously do not know what to do I was such an outgoing person, I have even resorted to online grocery shopping because I just don't want to go out in case something is gong to happen to me....

Does this sound like normal anxiety or have I got a different problem? Someone plz help me I have no idea at all.. :(
I'm thinking I shouldn't post this cuz I'm gong to die pressing the send button is making ma anxious omg...

[NixonRulz]

Hi everyone I am fairly new to this forum so I don't even know if I am posting in the right place.... Basically since mid feb this year I ws diagnosed with overactive thyroid and was put on 20mg of carbizomle, bu that seems to be eating under control as my dosage has been decreased to 5 mg a day so I'm not to worried about that any more...
I ws also diagnosed with slight inflamation on liver which had me really worried, I had an ultra sound and the results came back as abnormal but that was apparently expected by the doctor.. The word abnormal has triggered something off in me and since that day i have been suffering from severe anxiety..

By severe I mean I can't even leave my own house I hardly go in the garden, I constantly think I am dying, it's like I have convinced myself that I am going to die, each day I wake up and the first thought I have that this is my last day on earth.. There's not been one day in the last 7 weeks where I haven't cried panicked I even had an ambulance called out to my house last week because I thought I was having a heart attack and was goin to die.. Vomited 4 times in 30 mins waiting for the paramedics to arrive, once they arrived they did and ecg and the wilt were perfect nothing wrong with the heart, I also had my blood sugar level tested and that was perfect,, the paramedic also listened to my lungs and they sounded normal aswel.. I only had a slight temp of 37.2 which the paramedic said was nothing to worry about..

I have also been having very very very bad tapped wind issues almost like its stuck in my chest and throat which make me thinks I'm dying again, I get really bad stomach aches with it.. All I constantly think about is death, it's almost like my inner voice is telling me that I am going to die.. I'm finding it very difficult to deal with. Live with my parents and sisters and I am constantly crying in front of them they are worried about me aswel, I don't like it if one or more of them go out because then I begin to think I ŵont be alive till they get back home.. I cnt have a shower without someone standing in the room with me, if I go to the doctors my sister escorts me there and back and it's literally 5 mins from my house, and when I do go its like I'm n a rush to get there and back cuz I don't want to die in between.. I feel I sound so weird writing this.. I'm sitting on my own right now everyone else is in other rooms doing there thing and I am slightly anxious..

I cnt watch programmes where people are dying, I have trouble sleeping sometimes and those hours that I am awake lying in bed are tough I just get really scared thoughts, as I am writing this I have jus had a thought that this is my last time writing something like this, I don't know what to do.. My whole body is feeling weak, my legs have no energy at all when I walk it feels like I'm bouncing or the floor is moving, my head is constantly feeling pressure, and when the pressure gets intense I feel like my heads going to explode and I am going to die, and that really makes me panic and I sometimes have to run out of the house to breathe.. I wake up every morning some morning I feel kind of ok and others I feel like crap.. I come downstairs and sit on the same spot of the same sofa everyday and do not move unles I have to use the toilet or when it's time to sleep.. It's sort of become a routine, and I feel like if this routine changes that's a sign that something is going to happen to me I can't stop thinking about dying all the time..... Omg I think I am going mad...

I have been to the doctors because I have had to get a sick note because I cannot leave the house, I told the doctor m symptoms and she says it sounds like anxiety with agoraphobia, and she put me on citlorapram which did not help at all so went back last week and she put me on some other pills which do ot work, I have another app with her next Thursday to discuss more options of different pills, she's not much help...

I seriously do not know what to do I was such an outgoing person, I have even resorted to online grocery shopping because I just don't want to go out in case something is gong to happen to me....

Does this sound like normal anxiety or have I got a different problem? Someone plz help me I have no idea at all.. :(
I'm thinking I shouldn't post this cuz I'm gong to die pressing the send button is making ma anxious omg...

You aren't going mad and you are not dying from this

You are suffering from anxiety. Much the same as most here.

Because this is relatively new to you, you are scared as hell.

I was the same way when this happened to me years ago. So I and everyone here understands your fear.

The anxiety has been bad enough that you are beginning some bad habits by staying home and sitting in the same spot.

You want to fix this?

Then you need to decide to be finished with being a victim.

If just for a few moments today, change your routine and get up and move around.

Open the blinds and the windows and see what is outside that you are missing

Begin to learn about your anxiety. Great lessons in this forum.

Anxiety is a son of a bitch that tricks your mind into believing the things you think about.

You can think of all the crazy thoughts in the world, but the way you react to those thoughts is what continues the cycle.

It's anxiety. Not death. Not a heart attack or any other thing you can name.

You have classic anxiety.

So now you understand the diagnosis. For whatever the reason. your thyroid and/or genetics. End of looking for other reasons to be feeling bad.

Keep trying a few meds to help you since you are willing. When you find the right one it is amazing what they can do.

You are afraid and confused.

Don't focus on trying to go back and be who you were.

Move forward and become the healed, confident person that is inside of you.

[sadia]

I'm glad someone has replied thank you.. I have suffered from panic attacks for about 10 years n and off.. But nothing on this level.. I am trying.. It's like I'm feeling alright at the moment but that is seeming weird to me I'm like asking my self where have the scare thoughts gone does this mean something.. Feel like I'm going loopy

[sadia]

Also just wanted to ask is there certain times of the day where it feels as if your anxiety has kicked in more? And does lighting effect anyone's mood, if its too bright outside and the sun is shining in through the window I feel weird about that sometimes or if it suddenly gets dark and changes the lighting.. It's like the smallest thing make an impact on me..

[M.C]

OMG! You just sound like me!!!

Death is all I think about constantly I feel that it s going to get me every minute I live
It s horrible feeling!!! I can't stay in the house by my self I can't go to the loo or have a bath without leaving the door open I can't sleep in the bed alone I need to have my husband and 2kids too to fall asleep I can't even sit in the living room and watch the tele alone and the list goes on and on
I can't live a normal life because of the fear of dying
I m frightened to go to the doctors doing tests and scans because they ll find out that I have a terminal disease and I won't be able to handle the news
I m struggling to get rid off that feeling I tried CBT
It helped a little bit but didn't take it away
Don't know what to do??????

[sadia]

OMG I thought I was the only one... I constantly feel like I'm going to die any minute, I can't bathe without my sister standing with me.. Doctors surgery is round the corner from my house and my sister has to go with me, she even sits with me in the garden the days I choose to go in the garden, I start to panic and cry and ask my family members if I'm going to die, and sometimes I get the feeling that they know I'm going to die but they are not telling me... I have to know like a week in advance if I have an appointment or have to go somewhere so I can mentally prepare myself for that day.. The days I don't panic I think that something is wrong like something is going to happen to me so I start to panic and have a panic attack I did that to day lol.. Was fine all day couldn't stop thinking why am I not panicking and bang there you go I started to and had a panic attack...

I haven't been out with my friends in about three months I am always making excuses, I could just go on and on telling u..
Hope u feel better soon x

[sadia]

MC a friend of mine advised me to get a book called YOU CAN HEAL YOUR LIFE by Louise.L Hay.. My friend suffered fom anxiety for 15 years and has recently overcome it and is doing well.. She said this book helped her a lot.. I have purchased it a few days ago and as I read it some things jus click like I an relate to what the author is saying.. It might help you, I'm reading it to see if I can make a difference n myself because at the moment I feel like I am going loopy..

[sadia]

I'm really sorry to keep posting.. But do your eyes feel sensitive?? And after I cry my head feels really spaced out and wobbly like wobbly legs if that makes sense

[M.C]

At least now you know you re not the only one

And that might bring you some kind of relief
I ll try to get the book and give it a go
I ll do anything to get rid of this crap
You can keep in touch with me if you want
I have no problem with that
How did you get health anxiety? Have you had CBT ?meds?

[scared44]

Hi everyone I am fairly new to this forum so I don't even know if I am posting in the right place.... Basically since mid feb this year I ws diagnosed with overactive thyroid and was put on 20mg of carbizomle, bu that seems to be eating under control as my dosage has been decreased to 5 mg a day so I'm not to worried about that any more...
I ws also diagnosed with slight inflamation on liver which had me really worried, I had an ultra sound and the results came back as abnormal but that was apparently expected by the doctor.. The word abnormal has triggered something off in me and since that day i have been suffering from severe anxiety..

By severe I mean I can't even leave my own house I hardly go in the garden, I constantly think I am dying, it's like I have convinced myself that I am going to die, each day I wake up and the first thought I have that this is my last day on earth.. There's not been one day in the last 7 weeks where I haven't cried panicked I even had an ambulance called out to my house last week because I thought I was having a heart attack and was goin to die.. Vomited 4 times in 30 mins waiting for the paramedics to arrive, once they arrived they did and ecg and the wilt were perfect nothing wrong with the heart, I also had my blood sugar level tested and that was perfect,, the paramedic also listened to my lungs and they sounded normal aswel.. I only had a slight temp of 37.2 which the paramedic said was nothing to worry about..

I have also been having very very very bad tapped wind issues almost like its stuck in my chest and throat which make me thinks I'm dying again, I get really bad stomach aches with it.. All I constantly think about is death, it's almost like my inner voice is telling me that I am going to die.. I'm finding it very difficult to deal with. Live with my parents and sisters and I am constantly crying in front of them they are worried about me aswel, I don't like it if one or more of them go out because then I begin to think I ŵont be alive till they get back home.. I cnt have a shower without someone standing in the room with me, if I go to the doctors my sister escorts me there and back and it's literally 5 mins from my house, and when I do go its like I'm n a rush to get there and back cuz I don't want to die in between.. I feel I sound so weird writing this.. I'm sitting on my own right now everyone else is in other rooms doing there thing and I am slightly anxious..

I cnt watch programmes where people are dying, I have trouble sleeping sometimes and those hours that I am awake lying in bed are tough I just get really scared thoughts, as I am writing this I have jus had a thought that this is my last time writing something like this, I don't know what to do.. My whole body is feeling weak, my legs have no energy at all when I walk it feels like I'm bouncing or the floor is moving, my head is constantly feeling pressure, and when the pressure gets intense I feel like my heads going to explode and I am going to die, and that really makes me panic and I sometimes have to run out of the house to breathe.. I wake up every morning some morning I feel kind of ok and others I feel like crap.. I come downstairs and sit on the same spot of the same sofa everyday and do not move unles I have to use the toilet or when it's time to sleep.. It's sort of become a routine, and I feel like if this routine changes that's a sign that something is going to happen to me I can't stop thinking about dying all the time..... Omg I think I am going mad...

I have been to the doctors because I have had to get a sick note because I cannot leave the house, I told the doctor m symptoms and she says it sounds like anxiety with agoraphobia, and she put me on citlorapram which did not help at all so went back last week and she put me on some other pills which do ot work, I have another app with her next Thursday to discuss more options of different pills, she's not much help...

I seriously do not know what to do I was such an outgoing person, I have even resorted to online grocery shopping because I just don't want to go out in case something is gong to happen to me....

Does this sound like normal anxiety or have I got a different problem? Someone plz help me I have no idea at all.. :(
I'm thinking I shouldn't post this cuz I'm gong to die pressing the send button is making ma anxious omg...

Hi, All your symptoms are classic anxiety! I used to think I was going to die with my panic attacks and 28yrs later I'm still here:-) You need to focus your mind on something else like hobbies, excersise, go for a short walk and break that habit your in. Take Care.... :-) xx

[sadia]

Thank you scared44 I will try x..

MC it triggered off slightly in feb this year when I was diagnosed with an overactive thyroid and was put on 20mg carbimozle, I thought I had some sort of throat cancer developing because I couldn't stop googling stuff, but my thyroid in under control as they have reduced my dosage to 5mg a day now.. But I was also told I have slight liver inflamation which really scared me and I went for an ultra sound in the end of march for that, and the day I rang in to my doctors surgery to see if the results were back the receptionist told me they were and that they were abnormal but that doctor expected that and she gave me an appointment for the following week to see my doc... That word abnormal triggered something off inside me and since that day I think I am going to die even tho the dr said the results are nothing to be concerned about..

It's almost been 7 weeks and im going through crap I can't seem to control my thoughts they just spiral out of control, and I can't help googling the symptoms that I'm feeling.. If I'm having an alright day where the thoughts aren't really there i feel as if something is wrong the thoughts have disappeared because this is it I'm going to die and I begin to panic.. That's what happened to me last nyt and I had s panic attack in the evening.. The slightest thing that happens around me makes me nervous

[sadia]

Doctors haven't offered me CBT yet.. And she first prescribed me to citlorapram which made no difference slightly made it worse, and now prescribed me to some other pills which aren't really helping so I'm seeing her again Thursday coming, as she told me that there are hundreds of anxiety medications we just have to find the right one for me.. Are you on any medication MC???

[M.C]

I was about to take citalopram because I couldn't handle it but I found out I was pregnant so I can't take any medication
I was very optimistic about it as so many people here say that meds helped taking away some of the physical sensations
I can understand how a word like ABNORMAL can have a huge impact on the way you feel and think
I can relate to that I was having very bad back pain which I still but improved a little bit
So my chest consultant thought it might have calcium deficiency (I personally thought something to do with my lungs)
So my GP sent me for calcium magnesium and php(protein) blood test
So when I went to the hospital to get it done and the nurse told me you need to come in the morning because the php need to be kept in ice
The first thing that came to my mind it must be something VERY serious that s why the need special precautions so I asked her what is a PHP?
At my surprise she said I DON'T KNOW
I immediately felt like fainting I could hear my heart beating fast and my breath became shallow
Her answer just strengthen my thoughts
I went straight on google and guess what I found out they do it to check for cancer and other thing
But when a hypochondriac you dismiss everything and focus on the most dramatic thing
That night I didn't sleep at all I thought about leukaemia treatment loosing my hair dying leaving my kids behind and so on
The next I went and done and made sure I asked how long it takes to get the results back
It normally takes a week but if there is anything abnormal they would call the same day or the next day
I didn't go near my phone the whole day each it rang i would jump and say to my self they found what I m afraid off
I didn't have a breather till 6:30 when the surgery was closed and that means no call which mean I m fine
The results were eventually normal and tortured my self for no reason
I still do it though whenever there s a doc app a test a scan it s the same vicious cycle

[M.C]

Sadia if you re from England you do not need to be referred for CBT by the doc
All you need to do is call the talking therapies they would do an assessment over the phone to diagnose you then offer you the appropriate treatment
I m almost at the end of the CBT now it hasn't taken the anxiety away but it made a little improvement
Give it a go you have nothing to loose
In my situation I m willing to try anything and everything may be one thing will work you never know
Let me know then I ll give you the tel N

[M.C]

One more say a No No to google

Don't google your symptoms it s very misleading
If you re concerned about something visit the doc
But never go near google it ll just make miserable and more miserable

[alankay]

Gee. I hate to say this but it's simple. You are having severe anxiety and this cycle should be stopped. There is a time and place for a benzo and this is one of them in my opinion and do try and stay on the ssri as well. Also keep an eye on the thyroid and see if psychotherapy can help. Often anxiety can be helped by finding a psychological root and addressing it(sometimes there really isn't one).
If I were you(in the UK, right?) I'd ask about valium or even prazepam or clorazepate. If the doc resists ask what the f**k(heck) are these meds made for and why are they available in every country in the civilized world as anti-anxiety medications???? And yes benzos should not be handed out like candy but when a patient is suffering to this extent, it's "OK" medically to rx a benzo and continue with the ssri and psychotherapy as the benzo is not a fix in itself but, a way to aid in controlling anxiety while you work on it on other fronts and live a fairly normal life with much more limited symptoms. Just my take. Alankay

[sadia]

I know I'm trying to stay away from google but sometimes I just can't... I wouldn't recommend citlorapram the side effects is terrible and they say it takes a few weeks for it to settle in your system.. Yes I would appreciate the phone num MC I am really goin mad..

[sadia]

Alankay thank u for your advise I will speak to my doc but all she's says is aww u poor thing u must be having a horrible time ATM blah blah..

[M.C]

Talking therapies

0300 365 2000
Ring them as soon as possible

[sadia]

I will do thank you so much x

[alankay]

Let the doc know your anxiety starting to keep you house bound or nearly so and is severe and you can no longer dismiss it. You have a life and need to function. Ask her about a med like I mentioned and and tell her you would take it only when you're having a very bad day or other times but not everyday as it seems panic is the big foe. Let her know you know these meds need to be respected, used properly but not feared either. Yes it's right that she's not just offering them first but in a nutshell, when anxiety is severe or debilitating a benzo should be rx'd and monitored by the doc if an ssri/AD doesn't work well enough. You might have to adjust the dose to get it to work it's best. She might go along if you also try and stay on the AD as well(celexa?) as well but that would be your call but I'd try that.
No anxiety can't make you go crazy but sure as heck can make you feel worse than awful. Plain an simple it's the full fear(flight or fight) response gone awry.
If she won't rx a benzo ask about atarax(an old antihistamine with anti anxiety effects) or maybe lyrica. PM me anytime. Alankay

[mid]

Anti-histamine will help reduce the effects of the physical symptoms that overwhelm you with the anxiety spikes.

This is a medical condition with associated physical symptoms that affects everyone in different ways, so keep at it.

I like alankay's description full fear(flight or fight) response gone awry.

One natural thing you can do to help is to stay hydrated. That gives your natural reaction to anxiety spike more ammunition to deal with the response and you stay in the comfort zone.

[sadia]

Thank you for the advice alankay and mid I'm taking on board everything you guys are saying and will try me best to put it into practice...

[sadia]

Hiya hope everyone is ok.. Just here to vent today lol having another rough day today, feeling like its my last day on earth.. Been feeling ill last few days stomach has been burning a lot and causing me panic as I have been throwing up everything I have eaten or drank which made me think my stomach is shutting down and I'm in my final days.. Also this is going to make me sound mad on some other level, I don't know if I can actually see or my brain is telling me that I can see shadows of people in the house which is causing me anxiety as wel and panic..

[DustingMyselfOff]

I think you are completely and totally exhausted, both physically and mentally. Your body and mind need some rest! If you aren't on medication, can you at least get a sleeping pill? Or take some cold medicine that is meant to make you drowsy?

I'm betting that if you could get some sleep your body and mind might heal a little - enough to help you think rationally and proceed with whatever avenue you choose to help fight this demon.

Seeing the shadows is what made me think you are exhausted. YOUR BODY NEEDS A BREAK FROM THIS!
Sue

[sadia]

I agree my body needs a break, most nights I do get a good sleep unless a nightmare wakes me up and that's all that will be on my mind the next day.. The shadows make me think the angel of death is here to get me I sound mad I know.. Sometimes I'm sittin done and my body begins to shake on the inside and. Think of gosh this is it I'm gone.. At the moment the back of my head is hurting and making me anxious

[Judie]

I agree my body needs a break, most nights I do get a good sleep unless a nightmare wakes me up and that's all that will be on my mind the next day.. The shadows make me think the angel of death is here to get me I sound mad I know.. Sometimes I'm sittin done and my body begins to shake on the inside and. Think of gosh this is it I'm gone.. At the moment the back of my head is hurting and making me anxious
Sadia, The shaking you speak of is called "rigors" a very common symptom of anxiety. Your nervous system is targeted in any anxiety disorder. All of your symptoms are caused by a reaction that normally happens from a problem with the body ( physical Illness) but in Anxiety your symptoms are coming from the mind ( psychosomatic illness). Yes they can be equally as terrifying as physical symptoms for they are the same. BUT your key focus has to be on the word "Symptoms", symptoms are meaningless, they just point you in the direction of what may be wrong. In Anxiety the symptoms point to NO PHYSICAL illness, all your tests will come up negative. The problem is perhaps low self esteem, depression or stress. The mind has had enough so it more then effectively uses the body to produce " horrific" although completely harmless to make you take. Notice of what is really wrong ( your thoughts and feelings) The mind and body working together to keep you healthy and balanced is an amazing thing to see. Ok so let's focus on the fact that it is very obvious that you are fairly new to all of this horror. So I want you to really focus on that - symptoms are not disease ok. Drs find disease very quickly, blood work is a huge indicator of problems...ok so tests are normal so you still don't believe it. That's ok most people don't. So your job now is to change your own mind about how you feel about all of this. How you do that is to gain control , to challenge the anxiety by facing it. When and if you feel that skipped heart beat ( not really that is actually a harmless extra beat called a PVC that most people have all the time and they don't feel ( because their nervous systems are not in a heightened state of awareness- hear and feel everything) or you get that feeling of doom , immediately take all the courage you can muster and thing about a safe place ( a place where you have been where you found joy, beauty, calm and imagine that place right down to he colors of the sky, the water whatever just keep your mind in that place..keep thinking positive. Now breathe in deeply through your nose to the count of 4, hold for 1 second with mouth closed, then slowly release trough your mouth also to the count of 4, feel the difference the air being drawn in is cool the air being released in warm ( anxiety that you are dispelling from your body). Keep mastering the visualization and deep breathing and you will be on a Path of Recovery. Now I haven't read any previous posts of yours but it is obvious you have a Death Anxiety. I too have seen the Shadows hat I believed were the Angel of Death, they are not, they are just shadows, just like the symptoms are just symptoms. You will learn his with our support and the mastering of your anxiety through visualization,deep breathing and positive thought. Ok now the Nightmares, that's easy. Your nervous system is in overdrive so your subconscious thoughts areas well, we sleep but our mind doesn't. You think about these nightmares all the next day and that would be exhausting but that is because of how you are thinking of them. On the surface, just like the symptoms they kick quite a punch but like the symptoms they are just messengers that your mind needs some soothing that's all. What I want you to do write down the nightmares and break it down. For instance this weekend I was at my daughter's graduation and the night before I had a horrible nightmare: two ominous enemy black ( stealth ) bombers were flying slowly over head, very low and very very loud. Those engines actually were so loud. Ok so of course I wake up scared ( the mind and bodysurfing a nightmare can't distinguish between what is real or not, so we react to the fear, making our harmless systems scare us more). Ok so I love dream analysis, it's fun easy...the enemy jets were my subconscious fear of a terrorist attack . Even though I am completely comfortable at her college, given that we just went through the Boston Marathon Bombing it is people's minds, that large crowds may pose a problem. The loud engines ? Our hotel room was on the highway, trucks ( large 18 wheelers went by all night with our window open) I had simply taken outside stimulus and brought it into my dream/ nightmare. People often ramble nonsense and talk in their sleep to others because they too are incorporating outside noise/ people into their dreams. Practice what I suggested. Couple of questions, have you lost anyone recently or been frightened by illness or separated from someone you love. Share your nightmares, we'll figure all of this out . Be Well, breath deep :)

[sadia]

HI JUDIE THIS WAS MY FIRST POST WHICH EXPLAINS MOST OF WHAT IM GOIN THROUGH....... Basically since mid feb this year I ws diagnosed with overactive thyroid and was put on 20mg of carbizomle, bu that seems to be eating under control as my dosage has been decreased to 5 mg a day so I'm not to worried about that any more... I ws also diagnosed with slight inflamation on liver which had me really worried, I had an ultra sound and the results came back as ABNORMAL but that was apparently expected by the doctor.. The word abnormal has triggered something off in me and since that day i have been suffering from severe anxiety.. By severe I mean I can't even leave my own house I hardly go in the garden, I constantly think I am dying, it's like I have convinced myself that I am going to die, each day I wake up and the first thought I have that this is my last day on earth.. There's not been one day in the last 7 weeks where I haven't cried panicked I even had an ambulance called out to my house last week because I thought I was having a heart attack and was goin to die.. Vomited 4 times in 30 mins waiting for the paramedics to arrive, once they arrived they did and ecg and the wilt were perfect nothing wrong with the heart, I also had my blood sugar level tested and that was perfect,, the paramedic also listened to my lungs and they sounded normal aswel.. I only had a slight temp of 37.2 which the paramedic said was nothing to worry about.. I have also been having very very very bad tapped wind issues almost like its stuck in my chest and throat which make me thinks I'm dying again, I get really bad stomach aches with it.. All I constantly think about is death, it's almost like my inner voice is telling me that I am going to die.. I'm finding it very difficult to deal with. Live with my parents and sisters and I am constantly crying in front of them they are worried about me aswel, I don't like it if one or more of them go out because then I begin to think I ŵont be alive till they get back home.. I cnt have a shower without someone standing in the room with me, if I go to the doctors my sister escorts me there and back and it's literally 5 mins from my house, and when I do go its like I'm n a rush to get there and back cuz I don't want to die in between.. I feel I sound so weird writing this.. I'm sitting on my own right now everyone else is in other rooms doing there thing and I am slightly anxious.. I cnt watch programmes where people are dying, I have trouble sleeping sometimes and those hours that I am awake lying in bed are tough I just get really scared thoughts, as I am writing this I have jus had a thought that this is my last time writing something like this, I don't know what to do.. My whole body is feeling weak, my legs have no energy at all when I walk it feels like I'm bouncing or the floor is moving, my head is constantly feeling pressure, and when the pressure gets intense I feel like my heads going to explode and I am going to die, and that really makes me panic and I sometimes have to run out of the house to breathe.. I wake up every morning some morning I feel kind of ok and others I feel like crap.. I come downstairs and sit on the same spot of the same sofa everyday and do not move unles I have to use the toilet or when it's time to sleep.. It's sort of become a routine, and I feel like if this routine changes that's a sign that something is going to happen to me I can't stop thinking about dying all the time..... Omg I think I am going mad... I have been to the doctors because I have had to get a sick note because I cannot leave the house, I told the doctor m symptoms and she says it sounds like anxiety with agoraphobia, and she put me on citlorapram which did not help at all so went back last week and she put me on some other pills which do ot work, I have another app with her next Thursday to discuss more options of different pills, she's not much help... I seriously do not know what to do I was such an outgoing person, I have even resorted to online grocery shopping because I just don't want to go out in case something is gong to happen to me.... Does this sound like normal anxiety or have I got a different problem? Someone plz help me I have no idea at all..

I have only had a couple of dreams most em consist of a mainly member dying... But when I wake up I think that's a sign for me that I am dying.. Most nights when I wake up it always between 4am until 6am and my legs are usually aching like my life is being sucked out of me which terrifies me..

[Enduronman]

Sadia,

No, it is not normal anxiety. It's one of anxietys ugly brothers, but he invited them over for a visit. When you go to the Dr again, I would suggest that you or whoever is with you ask them for an anti-psychotic or A-typical anti-psychotic medication. You must take them everyday and not expect an overnight result. You've gotta get your mind to calm down first, and then take it from there day by day.

Someone outside of your family to talk to about this issue would also play a very important and valuable role for you.

I wish you the very best!

E-Man.

[sadia]

E-Man thank u for the advice I will speak to my doctor I see her in a couple of days see what she can give me.. Yes I have spoken to my friend about this and she introduced me to read a book on how to heal your life using affirmations, as she has suffererd through anxiety herself... And your right I do believe it is my mind running overtime but I can't figure out on how to control it...

Have u suffered from anything similar? If you don't mind me asking..

[Enduronman]

Hey Sadia,

Please try your best to get the medication type suggested. This is truly a case of the brain running in high gear and causing all those other ideas and thoughts that you've mentioned. Essentially once anxiety itself reaches these levels then it is very hard and complicated to bring it back down to more normal levels or at least levels that are more tolerable to live with.

I have literally suffered through every type of anything, other then this and I generally don't offer much in this area either because I haven't "lived" it. In your case, seeing that you desperatly want it gone and are trying so hard to figure it out, and suffering in ways I can't understand but ways that I can see, I had to state something and that was the first line of defense when it comes to this type of disorder. Anti-depressants will not work because although it may be a part of this, it isn't what is fueling this. It's a mixture of many, many different things all together. That's where that type of medication comes into play, to re-wire or re-program certain areas of the brain making communication between the chemicals in there, more understandable.

Another reason I don't touch on this topic, although I've read many like this, is because I generally see statements like "No one understands" and that statement is actually very true. It is because the environment that you and others type of, and the fears and worries that plague you, are created within your own mind. Essentially making you and others alike, the only ones that understand. As hard as I try from sitting here across the world away, I can't see how to get inside of a mind, thoughts, ideas, concerns, issues, worries, fears, consisting of an made up of things that are not real. This mental disorder is created by your own imagination.

I can give you some examples of what reading posts like yours looks like to me, but only if you ask me too because I may have already stated things above that no one may have ever stated to you before. I am trying to help you like you wouldn't believe so please don't take offense to anything that I've stated here.

I honestly believe that you can pull yourself out of this once you're on the right track.

E-Man. :)

[sadia]

No I do not take offence any type of of conversation I really appreciate E-Man I'm great full that you've took time to write to me thank u

[Enduronman]

YAY!!

I will try to help in any way I can. The one other thing that I can state here is that all of those things that you mentioned, are not going to happen. The one thing I do know is going to happen is that you're going to the DR on Thursday I beleive and also hopefully thinking about speaking to a councelor, outside of family, about this too.

I think that will be another great help to you and try not to get frustrated with them either because you sense that they "don't understand" you. Remember, you are the only one that truly understands you. Just keep an open ear to hear what they have to say or in this case, just read some typed words.

E-man :)

[sadia]

Yeah will be seeing doc on Thursday, hopefully she will listen to me instead of giving me another prescription and sending me on my way.. Any advice from here would be great reading makes me feel slightly better in some sense..

Hope you are well and not going through difficulties ATM E-Man

[Enduronman]

No. i'm not going through difficulties ATM (except that I go to the Dr tomorrow to ask her some tough questions regarding this stupid disability) but no difficulties here. This is helpful to me too.
There is now some new things that I can see here or at least what the perseption of this over-active mind tells me that I see anyway. I just go along for the ride and type what its telling me too. Weird...
1. You're very smart. No, I'm not just stating that. There's reasons I recognize that.
2. Have you not ever told your Dr. the things that you had stated in your posts?

E-Man.

[sadia]

I hope your doctors gives you the answers you are looking for....

I've told her near enough all my symptoms she said its anxiety with agoraphobia..

[Enduronman]

I hope the Dr does too, but the question I plan to ask has no single one answer. I've asked it before, and of course I get an answer with multi-directional dimensional variables that I'm supposed to understand. I will have to find the answer on my own, which I already know. (sigh)

I know you can get out of this though, I'm pretty positive in this regard.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get out of my mess...grrr

[DustingMyselfOff]

I hope the Dr does too, but the question I plan to ask has no single one answer. I've asked it before, and of course I get an answer with multi-directional dimensional variables that I'm supposed to understand. I will have to find the answer on my own, which I already know. (sigh)

I know you can get out of this though, I'm pretty positive in this regard.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get out of my mess...grrr

Would you consider sharing with us the name they have given this very rare disorder that you and your sister are afflicted with? If you'd rather not I totally understand.
Sue

[Judie]

I agree my body needs a break, most nights I do get a good sleep unless a nightmare wakes me up and that's all that will be on my mind the next day.. The shadows make me think the angel of death is here to get me I sound mad I know.. Sometimes I'm sittin done and my body begins to shake on the inside and. Think of gosh this is it I'm gone.. At the moment the back of my head is hurting and making me anxious

Hey Sadia, Thank you for updating me on some background information.Remember in my last post I mentioned that at this point when your mind is telling you " that you are dying" it is difficult to accept that this is not a physical disease that is claiming our lives and merely a phobic response " temporarily" claiming our mind. Early on I believe that perhaps the most effective way to deal with Anxiety/ Agoraphobia ( yes your Dr is correct) is with a logical knowledgable approach and some much needed reassurance. So here it goes it appears that you weren't feeling well with a hyperactive thyroid and that you were treated with carbimazole. Given that you have had difficulty with anxiety prior to this you are already predisposed to an anxiety response when your body is stressed ( this stress can be from a physical or mental cause ) People with anxiety/ depression have highly sensitive nervous systems and it is important to keep balanced through proper eating, sleeping and stress reduction. The hyperactive thyroid effects your whole body so that's a physical adjustment on its own , the medication carbimazole used to treat hyperactive thyroid can and most likely did cause an inflamed liver. The liver processes all medications, toxins, alcohol everything that enters our body. Many medications cause the liver to enlarge, this is not unusual. When the treatment stops the liver will rejuvenate and return to its normal size and liver function tests will return to normal. If the hyperactive thyroid or the enlarged liver is causing you to have developed you anxiety ( Death Anxiety clearly evident in your Angel of Death Shadows) please concentrate on the logical explanation of what is going on. Your feeling of the throat closing up is one of the most common symptoms of anxiety.The reason you can't watch " scary " TV ( I couldn't even watch the news) is because you are a nervous wreck ( that's all and think about it why would anyone want to watch misery when they are a nervous wreck. That seems to me a very wise decision :) I have gone through every symptom
you are suffering, right down to the shadows and the I am going to die today. I would always drive the highway, rather then a quiet secluded back road because I figured that they would find me easier after I had died. I am telling you this because that was 29 years ago and I conquered that and so will you. Now the only way you are going to beat Agoraphobia is to desensitize yourself, the only way to desensitize yourself is to go out and face the panic. Terrifying I know but doable. With the coping strategies we talked about before positive visualization and nice calm deep breathing. Nothing will happen, you may feel uncomfortable but you will make it through, I promise. Just like you made it through the Ambulance Visit and the countless days you had determined to be your last. You can do this, we are all right beside you. Start small but continue it relentlessly until the Anxiety weakens and slowly disintegrates. You are tired, sad, scared I get all of that but you are also stronger then anxiety and you need to prove that to yourself. So I want you to think about what you were feeling before the thyroid diagnosis, were you positive and happy at that point? My Panic/ Agoraphobia ( Death Anxiety ) was a result of my mom's sudden death and my brother was in a brawl and was stabbed. I am just trying to get at whether you think it directly correlates to the diagnosis of the Hyperactive Thyroid and the resulting Slightly enlarged .liver ( quite common with certain medications). Get back to me. I will be keeping an eye on you. Think positive, you'll be fine. Positive Dreams. The nightmares about death and dying just a reflection of your fear. Be kind to yourself. Get out to the Garden tomorrow must be getting beautiful just about now.

[Enduronman]

Relapsing polychondritis. It's a very treacherous and disturbing thing to live with. I was already disturbed!!

All one can do with this disease is cross your fingers and hope you don't suddenly get hit by an invisible car..that's what it feels like. It's very, very weird.

E-Man.. :)

[DustingMyselfOff]

Relapsing polychondritis. It's a very treacherous and disturbing thing to live with. I was already disturbed!!

All one can do with this disease is cross your fingers and hope you don't suddenly get hit by an invisible car..that's what it feels like. It's very, very weird.

E-Man.. :)

Thanks for sharing. Every time I start to feel sorry for myself for having several medical issues, I meet someone who makes mine look trivial. Your incredible attitude is going to keep your RP at bay and that invisible car is going to vaporize before it hits you.

I'm sure you've read everything you could get your hands on about this but have you read the story about the woman who feels she "cured" her RP by going Vegan? I'm betting you have.

Hang in there, E-Man...... keep that great attitude and leave it to the Universe.... it all works out the way it's supposed to. :)
Sue

[Enduronman]

Thanks much Sue!

It felt like I was pinned in a car involved in a horrific crash for 7 months, and the EMT's couldn't get me out! It was just a not so cool experience at all. It destroyed my entire life, but gave me other things that I never had before though too.

Yes, I know more about this then a Rheumatologist and they seem to find that irritating. I like to irritate them. LOL!

I became a Vegan on February 8th, it helps but it didn't cure it..I miss real people food! Beer! Cookouts! If I eat a can of tuna, I'm totally disabled for 27 hours. One glass of milk, 12 hours. One bowl of oat cereal, 6 hours. I don't like any of it...grrrr

I'll survive, survival just isn't as fun as it once was!

End-Man..:)

[sadia]

Hey JUDIE thanks for your response... I had my 27th bday few weeks prior to my overactive thyroid diagnosis, I was doing fine a little panicky at time but overall ok, I went to the doctors for a simple check up and as they take your blood pressure and chest ur heartbeat, my bp was fine but heart rate was at 111 which concerned the doctors slightly so she gave me an app for the following week to chek it again, I suppose that stated my worries off, week later she checked it again, and still slightly high at 105 .. So she jus took my bloods to check my iron levels and ordered me to have an ecg,... Ecg came out to be normal nothing to worry about, blood test results came back as overactive thyroid and slight liver inflamation... And since then I am a total wreck...


For instance last night as I was trying to sleep I heard a popping sound from the back of my head n the left side, I've never heard that before which got me worried and automatically I started to think an aneurysm has ruptured which mad me panic and and reach for my iPad so I could google the symptoms of a ruptured aneurysm and do they occur straight away after the rupture... But I didn't have a panic attack I was too tired to just kept telling my self it was a ruptured aneurysm it would have caused me great pain by now.. It took me at least one hour to calm down and convince myself that it's not what I think.. And finally fall asleep..

I have woke this morning with a headache and legs pains making me think another crap long day ahead for me...

[sadia]

Also just wanted to ask to anxiety make you alert to movement.. For instance something happening outside and u quickly notice through the window....

[sadia]

Jus wanted to ask Does anxiety make you more alert,, for instance the smallest movement of an object you aware of? If that makes sense

[Enduronman]

The answer is, yes. If it persist for um let's say, 45 years, then you'll be more aware and alerted to anything, everything, something, or even nothing at all...

Having the reflexes of a cat and the speed of a mongoose, isn't always such a good thing. (Ace Ventura)

:)

[sadia]

Lol true it isn't always a good thing.. Because it feels weird I even notice my own shadow on on the wall of if I'm sitting by the door..

[Enduronman]

LOL! It can be troubling at times, but it can also be very useful at times too. Being overly alert and perseptive is something that we just have to learn to live with and keep it under some sort of control. What would we be like if we weren't challenged daily?...(yawn)

We'll get through this!

[sadia]

Yes everyday is a different challenge... Like today I've got aches and pains in the back of my neck and arms

[Enduronman]

I always have pain in the back of my neck and not for reasons caused by anxiety but something else. I do have a prescription gel that helps with that but not fully. When you go to the DR tomorrow and get some new meds, these pains that you feel will begin to subside assuredly.

Everyday is a new challenge, agreed.

[sadia]

I know new challenges all the time.. Jus got to deal with them know.. Didn't ever understand you can have so many symptoms from anxiety

[Enduronman]

Yes. There can be a huge overflowing basketfull of symptoms associated with just anxiety. Everybody in the world has anxiety, it is built in for use in times of need. It is used in different ways, by different people. It's when it is over utilized and over used that it creates the issues that we have. Then leading us to other places that none of us even wanna be.

Now, we just find the way back out of this maze!..:)

[sadia]

I know exactly what u mean... I like the way you put things

[Enduronman]

You will find the way back out, but to find that you've gotta find the way that you got in..

[sadia]

I know exactly what you are saying but sometimes it's hard to think of the root cause... I've just spent 30mins in the garden with my sister getting some fresh air

[DustingMyselfOff]

You will find the way back out, but to find that you've gotta find the way that you got in..

BINGO! If I were ever to get a tattoo, I think that's what it would say!

[sadia]

Just a quick question does anyone else lose hair with this anxiety because I'm losing it in chunks

[DustingMyselfOff]

Just a quick question does anyone else lose hair with this anxiety because I'm losing it in chunks

Might be a good idea to ask your doc for thyroid blood tests. I have thyroid issues and I can always tell when it's acting up because my hair starts falling out (but not in chunks).
Sue

[sadia]

I do have an overactive thyroid and I am on 5mg carbimozle reduced from 20mg so that is getting better.. It's jus when I touch or wash my hairs it falls out more then I would expect...

[Judie]

Just a quick question does anyone else lose hair with this anxiety because I'm losing it in chunks

Ok I just wrote a long post and cyberspace grabbed it :( Sadia I am very happy you went out to the garden with your sister, soon you will be able to go by yourself . The " popping" in your head was not an aneurysm. You are not dying your vitals are really good. The elevated heart rate at 111 isn't that high,nor is it unexpected with hyperactive thyroid or an anxiety induced tachycardia ( mine was 150 flat on my back during a C-Section. Yes , people lose a lot of hair during times of stress, this rejuvenated and comes back after the anxiety/ stress calms down. Yes, when you suffer from anxiety everything is intensified, louder, brighter etc. Anxiety targets the Nervous System which includes the optic nerve in the eye ( bright lights in stores always bothered me and often I would completely lose my vision) it also effects the Inner Ear ( equilibrium off, unsteady, floor moves etc..) it also effects sounds ( I would often have high pitch sounds in my ears ) Nasty stuff, that's why we are going to get rid of it soon for you. Your sister has become your " safe person" ( it is easier and you feel safe going places with her) that's ok,mood even. At some point you will be able to go to the Garden alone :) . The trigger to your anxiety was most likely your 27 th birthday. Odd right, not really. People in heir late twenties become Very stressed as they approach 30. Foolish ( although very real)!negative thoughts creep into our minds, I am getting older, my parents are getting older, My friends are getting married having children starting careers . If you aren't meeting your own ( and often perfectionist and not attainable) expectations self doubt, negative thoughts creep in. Whatever those those thoughts may be like " I am going to end up alone " whatever it hey are, they are negative. Many people who suffer Panic Attacks surface in your age bracket. Hang in there, you are good. This is transient, it will end. Change your thoughts you will change the course of the anxiety. After you write a post read it and then below before you post it to the Forum rewrite and post together for instance. " I woke up today and I had a headache I knew it was going to be a crap day, rewrite positive as " I woke up today
And had a headache ,I knew I needed to turn the day around.Write your posts as you normally would ( don't think about it) then think about how you can make it more positive, more in control " Also smile ( fake it if you have to, it as been proven that this sends messages to the brain that you are happy ( until you can make it, fake it ;). When you walk keep your eyes up, not down. We'll get you through this. Practice your visualization( garden ?) and then your deep breathing ok . Be Well. Congrats on the fresh air in te garden. I know that's a big deal. Sadia, make sure you check you read the next post as I have listed side effects of your medication. The side effects combined with the anxiety would explain a lot and hopefully reassure you that soon it will be a distant " bad" memory.

[Judie]

Sadia, Also lots of symptoms for hyperactive thyroid mimic anxiety ( heart rate, hair loss etc..) But focus on that none of them are serious enough to cause you to worry. Make sure you are getting enough Vitamin B's , especially Biotin.
Sadia, the following are side effects for the carbimazole, it seems to me a lot of your symptoms may be in conjunction with the your medicine and the anxiety. You will feel better, your Dr has already lowered your dose. Hang in there, meds can be very tough.Ask your Dr about this. Be Well.
gastrointestinal problems
hair loss
headaches
itching
jointpain
liver problems - if you develop jaundice you should seek medical advice
musclepain or tenderness - you should seek medical advice if you get any musclepain or tenderness
nausea
skin rash or rashes
urticaria

[sadia]

Thank you JUDIE I always appreciate your feedback... I don't think it was my bday because I've never really been bothered about getting older... I know going in the garden for over half an hour was a good thing today.. Only had one shaky moment today jus because back of my head, neck and arms are aching.. Just somethng new everyday..

How has your day been? Hope you are doing well.. X

[sadia]

Sadia, Also lots of symptoms for hyperactive thyroid mimic anxiety ( heart rate, hair loss etc..) But focus on that none of them are serious enough to cause you to worry. Make sure you are getting enough Vitamin B's , especially Biotin.
Sadia, the following are side effects for the carbimazole, it seems to me a lot of your symptoms may be in conjunction with the your medicine and the anxiety. You will feel better, your Dr has already lowered your dose. Hang in there, meds can be very tough.Ask your Dr about this. Be Well.
gastrointestinal problems
hair loss
headaches
itching
jointpain
liver problems - if you develop jaundice you should seek medical advice
musclepain or tenderness - you should seek medical advice if you get any musclepain or tenderness
nausea
skin rash or rashes
urticaria

Really I didn't know that.. I have hair loss, headaches, joint paint nausea.. Plenty of gastrointestinal problems.. And they do make my anxiety spiral out of control

[sadia]

Do any of you guys get a dry mouth and throat with anxiety, my throats itchy aswel

[Judie]

Well you may have " dual" symptoms going on. You obviously do have anxiety/ agoraphobia if you are afraid to go out alone to the Dr.etc. The side effects ( we know the liver enlargement is that ) may be just happening along with the anxiety. Carbimazole I believe is short lived ( you won't be on it for a long time ) so that will offer some relief. I also believe if people read side effects of meds they sometimes have a power of suggestion ( meaning they think they are having the symptoms ) Given that you didn't know these side effects before they could be coming into play here. Either way I really believe you will begin to feel better. Dry Mouth ? Yes it can happen with anxiety, as well as a common side effect of many medications. Talk it over with your Dr. The itchy throat may be an allergy to the med or something else. Sometimes a pharmacist is more aware of side effects then Drs, Be Well , you will feel better soon just work at calming yourself with deep breathing. The garden sounds lovely.

[sadia]

Thanks JUDIE I am trying a lot to calm myself down.. Yh my lips and mouth feel dry maybe it's the way I breathe during I sleep or something? You know when your having a good few hours in the day do u ever feel like it isn't right why am I not anxious or panicking ?? How are you doing?

[Judie]

Thanks JUDIE I am trying a lot to calm myself down.. Yh my lips and mouth feel dry maybe it's the way I breathe during I sleep or something? You know when your having a good few hours in the day do u ever feel like it isn't right why am I not anxious or panicking ?? How are you doing?

Hey Sadia, I am very good, thank you. I try to come on to the Forum to offer some guidance given that I am very familiar with the disorder. I have had ebbs and flows over time, but I am familiar with anxiety and just work through it. Not at all how it was in the beginning. What happens is with anything you are not familiar with you become scared beyond logic., it really is terrifying as you know, lol. As far as your lips and mouth being dry, you are most likely correct. Anxiety sufferers do not breathe correctly, they mouth breathe ( causing shallow breathing, hyperventilation and yes dry mouth :) ) The reason you are having " good periods" during the day is because you have let your mind drift away from your anxiety. You are thinking of something else and therefore not feeding your anxiety. I was asking you about what was going on in your life because sometimes negative thoughts/ stress aren't always so apparent ( they can in fact be gnawing at you ) and sometimes it's easy, someone we love is sick, low self esteem, abuse etc.. Honestly I think a lot of you feeling really lousy right now is tied into your thyroid. The one blood test they will always run on someone presenting with anxiety is a Thyroid Test. Sounds like your Dr is on top of things. Whether the symptoms are caused by your meds, anxiety or a combination of both you will improve with deep breathing and visualization ( mind and body work very closely together). Try to get out more with your sister, as she understands and you will gain confidence that this is not life threatening. Hang in there ! Think about something positive, draw a picture of your garden and post it! Even better if you think you can't draw you'll have to concentrate on the Art !

[sadia]

I am so happy for you that you are dong well JUDIE it's great, keep it up.. I know what you mean, once I found out that I had these mediacl issues that's when it all spiralled out of control before I could handle my panic attacks easily and not worry about the.. But know its just a different story.. Yes u had a good few hours in the afternoon today, but time to time the thought popped int my head that this isn't right why am I feelin kind of ok lol.. It isn't normal for me anymore...

[sadia]

I'm having a really weird today, my mind won't stop thinking omg it feels like its going to explode with thoughts not pain.. Constantly thinking about each min that is passing about what's going to happen to me.. It's like having a good day with no pain but mentally I feel like I'm drifting into my own world of thoughts which is making hyperventilate a bit as my chest is beginning to hurt a bit... My eyes feel weird and everything.. Omg

[sadia]

I went to the docs this morning she's is literally no help, I told her the pills I'm on are not helping what's so ever but she's wants me to stay on them for another week because she doesn't want me to keep changing my prescription and see how I get on wtf

[Enduronman]

grrrr.. I went to the Dr yesterday. Sorry to start out with a story about myself because I am not a self- centered person but this will have a purpose in the end. I have told this Dr., who is the one that actually diagnosed my disease correctly, after seeing 5 other moron Dr's, all of which have a Medical Degree, that I have felt like I was being squeezed, compressed, squished, and it feels like I'm wrapped up in gauze like a MUMMY for an entire year now, and I began presenting and reporting this DAILY FEELING to her on February 19th! So, what do I get to relax the muscles, because it is called SPASTICITY (but I didnt tell her that because that is her job to know that!) and it makes me feel like I want to tear my way out of something that I can not see, it puts me on the edge of a world I will not explain here, my fuse isnt even as long as microbial organism that must be be viewed in magnification X10,000?....I get another order for another MRI!! I am in the mood now to calmy lat down in this machine, which cost $2million dollars, slide me inside,,and then I will wreck it within seconds! Sparks flying things exploding and people freaking out everywhere! Why? Because this is what my muscles feel like they want to do, all the time. I have maintained this fake presentation of "cool and composed" but it has gotten me, nowhere. It feels like my body is trapped inside of an ancient torture device.. My abdominal muscles always hurt, because they're tightly contracted and I am not doing this. I am a tenth of a second away from, tearing something apart and I fight this feeling moreso then being able to do anything else at all that is "happy or satisfying". I'm trying to figure out how to say "give me a medication that will keep me from destroying your offices" in a kind and non threatening sort of way. OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! Can you tell I'm ready to snap?

Why did I just type all that? Because we must show constraint, restraint, and be patient to see how things will unfold for us. I can not find any immediate relief, I have searched for this for a year. This hunt is testing me like never before. I have to calm down, and I will. You have to do the same friend, and then think about the next plan of attack.

Yes, wtf is the perfect question here.

Try to find something to occupy your mind, I have to do the same, somehow.

Laughter always seems to help, I'm looking for something to make me laugh now. I may make everyone else laugh too, hmmmmm...

YAY!

E-Man. :/

[sadia]

Lol ur yay made me laugh.. I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through tbh, but I praise you for being so patient through all the pain you are feeling..


The days I wake feeling ok my mind is saying to me why are you ok today surly that's a bad sign of something, then my mind focuses on that and I can't stop think about the fact of feelin ok and why do I feel ok feeling ok is not NORMAL for me anymore if you get what I mean lol... All this thinking makes me anxious and I start to hyperventilate on the inside.. I actually think I'm on the verge to be sectioned lol

[Enduronman]

BINGO!! (all this thinking makes me anxious)...Work on stopping the over-thinking everything, its the only thing that keeps me sane! Try to just blank your mind out, nothing but nothing. Its interesting. When there is 0 there for a moment.

:)

[sadia]

Yes that's what I am trying to say when there is 0 there I feel good for a a few mins and then the think starts of why r u feeling good its not right.. Your not gonna last longer that's y.. I can explain it I just hope someone understands what I mean lol x

[Enduronman]

Short story (I hope)

If there is something bothering me (usually) then I have to lay down and close my eyes. I will replay the issue, get frustrated, more angry, go through all the possible variables, realize I can't change it, remain p**sed off, then after a short time I feel a JOLT like an electrical shock that causes me to open my eyes even though I was never alsleep at all..
The exact same issue is in my mind as when I closed my eyes and layed down, yet it doesn't mean a damn thing anymore.
I then ask myself what was the big friggin deal then to begin with?
It is how my mind initially processed the thought, in the short term.
I allowed it to find the way to accept, the what really is a huge ordeal but it will minimize the effects all by itself.

Yes, I'm a mental trainwreck, but it has its advantages I guess. Other then the shock of 10,000 volts, from no where!

YEE HAW!

[sadia]

Lol I didn't really understand that story

[Judie]

I went to the docs this morning she's is literally no help, I told her the pills I'm on are not helping what's so ever but she's wants me to stay on them for another week because she doesn't want me to keep changing my prescription and see how I get on wtf
Wtf is right lol, but generally speaking your Dr is right, jumping from one med to the next doesn't give any of them adequate time to work. They need to build in your system. The Carbimazole and it's side effects is just something you are going to have to deal with for awhile :( But it will all work out. Any other you do need to give time. Here's the thing about Anxiety, Drs and Therapists are often " literally no help"because Anxiety Disorders are not really something someone else can cure because they are so internalized and need to be fixed from the inside out. A Dr or Therapist can certainly make suggestions but they can't climb in your head and restructure your thoughts. You need to be your number one caretaker, the one person that is more then capable of changing your thoughts and conquering your anxiety. What you are lacking right now is the confidence to believe that you have that power. The other thing you need to accept before you move forward is that this is NOT an illness, this is a self induced psychological response created by your thoughts. Once you truly believe that you can and will control anxiety you will begin a recovery emerging empowered with knowledge and the strength of self confidence. Your eyes feel weird because it it your optic nerve, which is part of your nervous system. Flashes, bright lights etc often stimulate the anxiety response. I used to go " blind" ( yes it was horrifying ! ) Completely blind except for a crystal clear pinhole in the Center. My daughter has had this as well, believe it or not we talk about it in awe now that your mind can cause such horrific " harmless" symptoms ( symptoms remember that- harmless but horrible :) )
That's a good thing that you are thinking about the future of what is going to happen to me ? Fill that answer in with thoughts like " I am going to master this and I will be knowledgable enough to help others". Think of future relationships, imagine where that future partner is right now and what they're doing. Go onto the IKEA sight ( or any furniture store)and choose furniture for a future apartment. Design a garden ! Be Well think positive. At the end of the day when you look back try to continue to see that when you occupied your thoughts with something else, that is the time that you had a reprieve from anxiety, a break from the continual assaults of symptoms. Enjoy your day ! Positive ! Deep Breathe !

[sadia]

Wtf is right lol, but generally speaking your Dr is right, jumping from one med to the next doesn't give any of them adequate time to work. They need to build in your system. The Carbimazole and it's side effects is just something you are going to have to deal with for awhile :( But it will all work out. Any other you do need to give time. Here's the thing about Anxiety, Drs and Therapists are often " literally no help"because Anxiety Disorders are not really something someone else can cure because they are so internalized and need to be fixed from the inside out. A Dr or Therapist can certainly make suggestions but they can't climb in your head and restructure your thoughts. You need to be your number one caretaker, the one person that is more then capable of changing your thoughts and conquering your anxiety. What you are lacking right now is the confidence to believe that you have that power. The other thing you need to accept before you move forward is that this is NOT and illness, this is a self induced psychological response created by your thoughts. Once you truly believe that you can and will control anxiety you will begin a recovery emerging empowered with knowledge and the strength of self confidence. Your eyes feel weird because it it your optic nerve, which is part of your envoy's system. Flashes, bright lights etc often stimulate the anxiety response.I used to go " blind" ( yes it was horrifying ! ) Completely blind except fora crystal clear pinhole in the Center. My daughter has had this as well, believe it or not we talk about it in awe now that your mind can cause such horrific symptoms ( symptoms remember that- harmless but horrible :) )
That's a good thing that you are thinking about the future of what is going to happen to me ? Fill that answer in with thoughts like " I am going to master this and I will be knowledgable enough to help others". Think of future relationships, imagine where that person is right now and what they're doing. Go onto the IKEA sight and choose furniture for a future apartment, design a garden ! Be Well think positive. At the end of the day when you look back try to see that when you occupied your thoughts with something else, that is the time that you had a reprieve , a break from the continual assaults of symptoms. Enjoy your day ! Positive ! Deep Breathe !

JUDIE I be thinking no I don't feel right like I'm going to die any minute.. At this present min my whole body has started to ache and I feel as if my life is being sucked out of mee I'm going to die

[sadia]

My legs at this point have froze I feel like my life is gettin pulled out of me.. Omg what's going on

[Enduronman]

Sorry! See? I was the only one that understood that story because it probably doesnt happen to others.

I have to face many, many tough issues now every day. My whole body just stopped working one day last year. It "threw in the towel" as the Dr stated.
Those complex issues (can no longer work, walking, sitting, standing, moving, soreness, pain, squeezing, pulling, compressing, crushing, loss of business, loss of home, loss of income, losing friends because my fuse is non existent but I was always kind and helpful before, frustrated, angered, infuriated, enraged at times, with multiple mental disorders that existed 43 yrs before this even happened)..create many, many challenging and tough issues and decisions that I was suddenly forced to make.
All while trying to remain, logical, rational, reasonable, is verrryyyyyyyyyyyyy complicated.

So, when I can not reach a conclusion in my mind, because its filled with garbage that is sometimes indecipherable, I lay down and close my eyes.
I think about the major problem, one at a time.
I cant find a conclusion that my mind will accept.
Shortly thereafter, I am abruptly hit by something that feels like I was just shocked. It jars me.
The question that I could not answer in an acceptable way to make my mind stop spinning, is no longer an issue at all.
POOF! Abra cadabra!
The question or issue is still there, but I look at it now with a "so what, I don't care" attitude that I didnt have 1 hour earlier..

WEIRD!! :)

[Judie]

JUDIE I be thinking no I don't feel right like I'm going to die any minute.. At this present min my whole body has started to ache and I feel as if my life is being sucked out of mee I'm going to die
I want you to concentrate on the progress you are making( may be helpful to retread your past posts) you are still feeling lousy but you are beginning to separate your thoughts away from" I am dying" to " this makes me feel lousy " That is reason alone to feel positive !!!!!. That all over muscle weakness and feeling that the life is being zapped out of you is most likely that you are not breathing correctly. People always think that hyperventilation syndrome ( breathing fast and shallow throwing off your oxygen carbon dioxide levels ) shows up as inability to catch your breath. It doesn't, never did with me. Rather it shows up with muscle weakness, wobbly legs, light headed, dizzy, etc ) I believe this is what is going on with you, your blood needs more clean oxygenated air. Oxygen feeds your blood that circulates to your muscles. Don't just deep breathe when you feel anxious, get in the habit of doing deep breathing exercises four times a day. Try one of the Free Apps they have for anxiety. At some point you will breathe this way naturally without hinting about it. You know I laugh ( not at you) about when I would ignore suggestions of deep breathing and relaxation techniques. Finally I tried hem and it worked. This disorder is really really tough to believe that it isn't as ominous as it appears. Your muscle weakness is most probably hyperventilation syndrome ( crappy breathing :) For immediate relief of light headed feelings you can breathe until a paper bag. But try some nice deep breathing and some positive thoughts !

[Judie]

The question or issue is still there, but I look at it now with a "so what, I don't care" attitude that I didnt have 1 hour before.

Enduros man, that " I don't care " attitude is most likely your mind stepping in to give you some reprieve from your thoughts. The jarring you feel is the mind "slamming the door "on the thoughts and especially the negative impact of the thoughts. Mind/ Body connection pretty amazing stuff. Be Well. Your method of prioritizing, one problem at a time and then releasing reflects a strong mind. I understand you are battling more then one entity right now. You have my support Be kind to yourself. Positive Thoughts !

[Enduronman]

Awesome reply Judie!

I rarely ever see anyone state anything about the mind/body connection or even speak of it either. I fully understand that connection quite possibly way to far then I'm supposed too. I know exactly how I got this disease, why, and exactly when it hit me too. Circadian Rhythm/Loop..timing, etc.. I wish now I wouldv'e never shut down my own adrenal system with my mind. It was the most glorious 18 days of my life though! Everything in the world around me, looked very different.

I do believe what you say about the "slamming the door" expression too. The issue/problem/concern that I may be running into the ground with my thoughts is actually a minimally important subject in the grand scheme of things so the mind tosses it out as irrelivant on its own. The shock/jolt/electric things is really weird but if that's what it takes then ok!

This entity of disease is sneaky and stealthy but I will find out where he's hiding...

[sadia]

Hi JUDIE sorry for the late rely I had a massive panic attack all of a sudden my legs began to ache I felt like I couldn't even walk n them which made me think the angel of death was sucking the life out of me.. I know I sound crazy but if I don't let what I'm feeling out it makes me think y can't I tell people what's going on with me..

Did your anxiety ever make you feel like you are in your own world even when someone's talking to you you aren't really paying attention? Or sometimes you try to pay to much attention that you feel weird and it makes you anxious, every little thing that I am feeling I think is it a symptom of death, I know I sound really really loopy lol but it's what im going through.. And sorry for keep bothering you guys..

[Judie]

Hi JUDIE sorry for the late rely I had a massive panic attack all of a sudden my legs began to ache I felt like I couldn't even walk n them which made me think the angel of death was sucking the life out of me.. I know I sound crazy but if I don't let what I'm feeling out it makes me think y can't I tell people what's going on with me..

Did your anxiety ever make you feel like you are in your own world even when someone's talking to you you aren't really paying attention? Or sometimes you try to pay to much attention that you feel weird and it makes you anxious, every little thing that I am feeling I think is it a symptom of death, I know I sound really really loopy lol but it's what im going through.. And sorry for keep bothering you guys..

Ok I just changed computers because my IPAD has frozen 3 times and that would be 3 messages that are out in Cyberspace ( The Universe grabbed them ) Yes, I have had what you describe it is called Disassociation, and it gives many Anxiety Sufferers the sensation that all that they are present but they are not. I personally always felt like I was watching a movie, I was there but I was not. Honestly I have never seen a symptom I didn't have on this Forum : ( My Panic Disorder was diagnosed as severe and the anxiety was relentless. It was determined to make me acknowledge that I was depressed. I had repressed grief, not a wise thing to do ) The anxiety made it's point and I learned a tremendous amount. Anyway enough about me I think you are making progress I pay very close attention to statements people make, you are starting to shift more away from " I am dying" to I felt like I was dying, this is a really good thing. That's your mind beginning to recognize that the anxiety is harmless. Listen in life challenges we face, especially facing our fears take "Baby Steps", but babies grow, and so does confidence. Today my legs were soooo weak ( wobbly) Symptoms creep up every now and again but I logically recognize it as anxiety and simply push myself. Now this is a fact, so take it as such ok. I have been with people when they are dying. There are common occurances( symptoms) that take place days, hours, even minutes before someone leaves this earth. You simply DO NOT have any of these symptoms and NO I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE ( that is power of suggestion ) and Anxiety enjoys tripping us up ! You will most likely continue to react and feed the anxiety until we can get you to fully accept that there is No ANGEL OF DEATH is truthfully only an ANT OF ANXIETY, a small meaningless entity that is powerless against us. I will continue to reassure you about symptoms but I want you to practice deep breathing with an App and most importantly treat Anxiety, the same way you would a Bully, stand up to it, don't run. The Anxiety, like the Bully will wither, lose interest because it no longer gets what it wants, a Reaction ! This truly is simple, people complicate anxiety. What is complicated is the reason it cropped up ( sometimes as far back as childhood, other times an easy explanation too much stress ) Be Well ! Did you pick out that furniture yet LOL...get thinking... Good Thoughts !

[NixonRulz]

Ok I just changed computers because my IPAD has frozen 3 times and that would be 3 messages that are out in Cyberspace ( The Universe grabbed them ) Yes, I have had what you describe it is called Disassociation, and it gives many Anxiety Sufferers the sensation that all that they are present but they are not. I personally always felt like I was watching a movie, I was there but I was not. Honestly I have never seen a symptom I didn't have on this Forum : ( My Panic Disorder was diagnosed as severe and the anxiety was relentless. It was determined to make me acknowledge that I was depressed. I had repressed grief, not a wise thing to do ) The anxiety made it's point and I learned a tremendous amount. Anyway enough about me I think you are making progress I pay very close attention to statements people make, you are starting to shift more away from " I am dying" to I felt like I was dying, this is a really good thing. That's your mind beginning to recognize that the anxiety is harmless. Listen in life challenges we face, especially facing our fears take "Baby Steps", but babies grow, and so does confidence. Today my legs were soooo weak ( wobbly) Symptoms creep up every now and again but I logically recognize it as anxiety and simply push myself. Now this is a fact, so take it as such ok. I have been with people when they are dying. There are common occurances( symptoms) that take place days, hours, even minutes before someone leaves this earth. You simply DO NOT have any of these symptoms and NO I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE ( that is power of suggestion ) and Anxiety enjoys tripping us up ! You will most likely continue to react and feed the anxiety until we can get you to fully accept that there is No ANGEL OF DEATH is truthfully only an ANT OF ANXIETY, a small meaningless entity that is powerless against us. I will continue to reassure you about symptoms but I want you to practice deep breathing with an App and most importantly treat Anxiety, the same way you would a Bully, stand up to it, don't run. The Anxiety, like the Bully will wither, lose interest because it no longer gets what it wants, a Reaction ! This truly is simple, people complicate anxiety. What is complicated is the reason it cropped up ( sometimes as far back as childhood, other times an easy explanation too much stress ) Be Well ! Did you pick out that furniture yet LOL...get thinking... Good Thoughts !

Well said and true

I also agree that IPads are pieces of shit

I hate mine more than my anxiety disorder

[sadia]

JUDIE I always get a feeling of calmness and peace when we interact, what you say makes sense to me, I have to just find away to believe it and not let this take over me.. It's just constantly something is happening to a part of my body which I can't control, for instance as I am typing it feels as if my brains wobbling..

What is the best app for breathing techniques if you don't mind me asking?

[Judie]

JUDIE I always get a feeling of calmness and peace when we interact, what you say makes sense to me, I have to just find away to believe it and not let this take over me.. It's just constantly something is happening to a part of my body which I can't control, for instance as I am typing it feels as if my brains wobbling..

What is the best app for breathing techniques if you don't mind me asking?
Hi Sadia, I have the following on my IPhone 1) Relax and Sleep Well ( Australian Male voice ) 2) Relax and Rest ( Women's voice ) I like this she guides you well. You also have the option to have background soothing music and nature sounds. I think you may like this as she tends to keep you focused.
Sometimes I feel like my head is going to roll of my shoulders LOL...I promise some day you'll smile about this. Let me know. I think you should go for the Relax and Rest. This won't take you over, we won't let it. Hang in there...Headphones should be used for this. You will be able to practice this before bed, good dreams. Both are Free, as many are.

[sadia]

Thank u JUDIE, I will have a listen.. I knw what you mean my head has all these weird sensations, makes me think I've got diseases in my brain lol

[Judie]

Thank u JUDIE, I will have a listen.. I knw what you mean my head has all these weird sensations, makes me think I've got diseases in my brain lol
I know it's funny but it's not. The problem is between the ears, just not the brain, it's the the mind. lol You'll be fine, concentrate on that voice !

[sadia]

Morning JUDIE I managed to download rest and relax and had a listen to it, made me quite tired after the first 10mins of listening to it.. Only woke up once in the night for around 5 mins and I kept telling myself relax concentrate in your breathing let your mind wonder, jus as the lady did lol n I fell back to sleep.. I just hope I have a good day now..

[Judie]

Morning JUDIE I managed to download rest and relax and had a listen to it, made me quite tired after the first 10mins of listening to it.. Only woke up once in the night for around 5 mins and I kept telling myself relax concentrate in your breathing let your mind wonder, jus as the lady did lol n I fell back to sleep.. I just hope I have a good day now..
That's wonderful Sadia, just keep at it. Becoming so tired after listening shows how tense your muscles have been from anxiety. First time your body has rested in awhile. Change phrases from above from I "hope" I have a good day now. To I will have a good day now " that's positive thought and takes control of your thoughts from I hope ( open, not sure to ) to I will ( assertive, positive, confident) have a wonderful day, apply your breathing through the day nice and deep )

[sadia]

Thank u JUDIE, I am trying to change the way I think, it's i just have to find the way how to adjust back to reality the way I was so to say.. Hope you are having a good day, pouring down with rain here

[sadia]

You know when suffering from anxiety, has anyone one else noticed that when you speak it's hard to like you voice sounds different and all your throat is dry that you can't speak..

[Judie]

You know when suffering from anxiety, has anyone one else noticed that when you speak it's hard to like you voice sounds different and all your throat is dry that you can't speak..

Yes sometimes in the past I have had trouble swallowing and my words have slurred. Scary scary stuff ( dismiss these symptoms all as anxiety, they are ) ! Sadia, please know that if I point out different techniques for positive change I am never criticizing you. I truly empathize and " get it" . My Panic Disorder was at it's height a long time ago and it was very rough. I know this is manageable, fixable,I also know it doesn't feel that way, but it is. Symptoms may come and go now for me but they are very manageable and short lived. Please do your App again today ok. Yes pouring here as well. I am in the U.S. I am very reactive to rain ( tired etc ..Seasonal Affective Disorder) I love the Sun :). I live by the ocean ! Although on a positive note gardens need rain to bloom ,

[sadia]

Oo cool where in the US Are you based... We have had no sun so far lol.. I can swallowing fine and speak properly but when I speak its like I have to make an effort to speak it doesn't naturally flow and my mouth and throat are really dry which the doc said is a symptom of anxiety..

[shaikhrahuf]

Morning JUDIE I managed to download rest and relax and had a listen to it, made me quite tired after the first 10mins of listening to it.. Only woke up once in the night for around 5 mins and I kept telling myself relax concentrate in your breathing let your mind wonder, jus as the lady did lol n I fell back to sleep.. I just hope I have a good day now..

I have some audio for relaxation amd breathing PM me email id will mail i the audios..
Small bit fem my side..

[sadia]

Thank u my email is [email protected]

[shaikhrahuf]

Thank u my email is [email protected]

Will mail u tomorrow from my office as my mobile connection keeps fluctuating.. do u use android phone?

[shaikhrahuf]

Will mail u tomorrow from my office as my mobile connection keeps fluctuating.. do u use android phone?

If ur using whatsapp then it will b easy to me to share them..

[sadia]

No I do not have whatsapp, I will wait for tomrw, thank you...

[Judie]

If ur using whatsapp then it will b easy to me to share them..

Last night I suggested "RELAX and REST ". (app for iPhone) I think Sadia did really well with it. Good Luck Guys !

[shaikhrahuf]

Last night I suggested "RELAX and REST ". (app for iPhone) I think Sadia did really well with it. Good Luck Guys !

Yes judie thats what i was asking sadia, if she had android fone i hd many apps, which give access to audio downloads for relaxing and breathing exercise..

[sadia]

Yes JUDIE thanks to you I did well last night and not doing bad today.. Can I jus ask you do you know when you went through your period of anxiety did u get days where you felt less on edge.. Did you find those days weird??

[shaikhrahuf]

No I do not have whatsapp, I will wait for tomrw, thank you...

Ok will mail i tomorrow..y id is [email protected]

[sadia]

I have I pad

[shaikhrahuf]

I have I pad

Ok no issues will mail u tomorrow..

[Judie]

Yes JUDIE thanks to you I did well last night and not doing bad today.. Can I jus ask you do you know when you went through your period of anxiety did u get days where you felt less on edge.. Did you find those days weird??
Yes your body / mind is becoming more familiar with the anxiety ( less reactive, it doesn't scare you as much as it did in the very beginning ) that's the whole key with anxiety don't be afraid, accept, learn to control it through relaxation techniques and a dismissive thought- remember treat it like the bully, I am not afraid of you- it loses it's bravado and backs down) keep doing those deep breathing and Apps even if you feel good, it will keep your body calm long after the app is finished. You are basically retraining your nervous system ( think of it as a short circuit and burnout, you just have to repair those wires : ). You are doing wonderful, making great progress. Any slip ups will only be your mind telling you to relax and be positive ( it's like a nagging mom)

[Judie]

Yes JUDIE thanks to you I did well last night and not doing bad today.. Can I jus ask you do you know when you went through your period of anxiety did u get days where you felt less on edge.. Did you find those days weird??

Sadia, Honestly I found all of those days weird. Your nervous system is out of balance, so lots of feelings are bombarding you. Everything you feel is weird BUT it isn't unusual, do you understand ? The body is creating weird sensations so you will react, but they are common with all anxiety sufferers. Those good days you speak of are you moving forward toward recovery. Why you feel weird is because you still have doubts, so you don't trust the recovery, you believe it's another " trick" and an attack is looming. It isn't you truly are beginning to understand and control and that's a good thing. If or when you have set backs with anxiety it is just your mind telling you to stay focused on relaxation, health and your well being.At this point you deep breathe,relax, visualize and get to a good balance, empowered by all your new found knowledge and then you pat yourself on the back because you have come so very far !

[Judie]

Ok no issues will mail u tomorrow..

Shaikhrahuf, Be Well, any relaxation app will work if you don't have an IPHONE. Be Well

[sadia]

Thank so so much JUDIE I honestly do not know what I would have done without talking to you it's week.. I guess it is tricking me into thinking that something basis looming because I'm feeling okish today.. I will continue with that app at nights.. I hope u don't mind me keep pestering u..

[shaikhrahuf]

Sadia i hv mailed u one audio check it n reply..

Dear judie..

As iphone, i use samsung galaxy s3 its a versatile android platform where in i can get paid apps i mean full version for free

[sadia]

Hi Shaikhrahuf have received you beach audio.. Thank you

[Judie]

Sadia i hv mailed u one audio check it n reply..

Dear judie..

As iphone, i use samsung galaxy s3 its a versatile android platform where in i can get paid apps i mean full version for free

That's excellent !

[Judie]

Thank so so much JUDIE I honestly do not know what I would have done without talking to you it's week.. I guess it is tricking me into thinking that something basis looming because I'm feeling okish today.. I will continue with that app at nights.. I hope u don't mind me keep pestering u..

I hope you continue to pester me. Even though I know you are getting well. Remember slip backs are nothing more then a reminder that you control this and to be kind to yourself :)

[sadia]

Thanks judie.. I think I'm still far from recovery, but hopefully I'll get there.. I appreciate all the advice u r giving me.. :)

[Judie]

Thanks judie.. I think I'm still far from recovery, but hopefully I'll get there.. I appreciate all the advice u r giving me.. :)

Yes ,but you are on the Road ! I always check in but PM me anytime, you will get through this. Does either your Mom or Dad have trouble with anxiety ?

[sadia]

My mum is clostrophobic, she doesn't sit on buses, trains etc, in 30 years she's only been on a plane once.. My sister older then me has suffered with anxiety for many years aswel

[Judie]

My mum is clostrophobic, she doesn't sit on buses, trains etc, in 30 years she's only been on a plane once.. My sister older then me has suffered with anxiety for many years aswel

Well that is certainly very common to have familia connections to anxiety. My daughter has anxiety, my mother did as well. My aunt was an Agoraphobic, another cousin as well. Even my grandmother on my father's side ( first half of the 1900's- this has been in existence for a very long long time) I don't often speak about an inherited link on the Forum ( might cause extra stress for some thinking that it means there's no escape or end to it, there is ) but there most definitely is one. Maybe with you moving forward, you can help your mom as well. I was just on an elevator the other day with a woman that started saying " I'm getting anxious, I'm getting anxious " please move etc... Good for her I would probably suffer in silence but I would be deep breathing :) Ok Be Well.

[sadia]

I know what u mean my cousin and uncle suffer from it aswel.. Today my sis and her kids are here and my cousin and her kids I'm jus sittin in silent.. Sitting around to many people make me feel weird don't know how I'm keepin a lid on it its strange

[sadia]

Hiya with anxiety do any of you guys get cramps, or when moving to quickly or moving a body part in an awkward position, u get a muscle spasm or pull a muscle???

And joint pains

[Roxie271983]

Hiya with anxiety do any of you guys get cramps, or when moving to quickly or moving a body part in an awkward position, u get a muscle spasm or pull a muscle???

And joint pains

I do occasionally have muscle spasms and feeling of what I think to be pulled muscle. I do have occasionally joint pain especially in my arms. It is please send station that usually start my mind racing me and leads to an anxiety attack. I'm still working on techniques to help get me through them and have learned a lot of them from this forum

[Judie]

Hiya with anxiety do any of you guys get cramps, or when moving to quickly or moving a body part in an awkward position, u get a muscle spasm or pull a muscle???

And joint pains
Honestly I was just saying today how all my muscles and joints ache. This too is caused by anxiety for a couple of reasons, when in a state of anxiety we tense our muscles ( it's like lifting weights for hours ) the other is hyperventilation syndrome ( that would be your breathing app ) shallow breathing, not enough oxygenated blood getting to extremities. Deep breathe :)

[Judie]

Hiya with anxiety do any of you guys get cramps, or when moving to quickly or moving a body part in an awkward position, u get a muscle spasm or pull a muscle???

And joint pains

Try some extra calcium before bed ( warm milk with a teaspoon of vanilla and a little sweetness, the calcium will help with muscle spasms :)

[sadia]

Thank you ladies for your replies.. JUDIE my arms aches now and then it's mostly my legs that feel weak and ache especially my knees

[sadia]

Hiya can someone give me some advice please since my bout of anxiety I have really bad acid problems and its mainly effecting the right side of my chest throat and stomach.. It's like a poking pain.. And sometime worse, I burp an awful lot.. I am on lasparozles but they don't really make a difference.. I take gaviscon as wel.. Is there any herbal remedies I do drink herbal teas sucks as green tea, cammomile tea, peppermint tea and have started to drink fennel tea aswel..

[Judie]

Hiya can someone give me some advice please since my bout of anxiety I have really bad acid problems and its mainly effecting the right side of my chest throat and stomach.. It's like a poking pain.. And sometime worse, I burp an awful lot.. I am on lasparozles but they don't really make a difference.. I take gaviscon as wel.. Is there any herbal remedies I do drink herbal teas sucks as green tea, cammomile tea, peppermint tea and have started to drink fennel tea aswel..
Hi Sadia, Acid is increased with anxiety. I currently do take Zantac 300 which is a prescription antacid med here. I am not familiar with your meds there but the the gaviscon is on the right track. Try to keep something light on your stomach at all times ( crackers with your tea) Is the lasparozoles , Is that a proton pump inhibitor?if so that will take up to four days to work. The weakness in your legs and arms is the result of the muscle tenseness and shallow breathing. I have this as well. I was actually wondering, like you. if it may be a side effect to meds ( Carbimazole)) BUT this has always been a classic symptom of anxiety/ depression for me and most likely for you as well. Domyou have a tub, try some Epsom Salt in a nice warm( not too hot ) tub.Keep doing that breathing APP. I know how horrible this all is but it truly is a mind over matter temporary annoyance. When you get in the tub, don't think about the anxiety at good or bad, put on your. Headphones and listen to Enya or other artist hat is uplifting. Try to figure out the message they are trying to get across and relax...nice deep breaths. Be Well ! X Try Simethicone ( Gas X) for that pain on right side). Also cut back on the different teas, just Chamomile for a bit ( and always with a few crackers, toast etc) the increased acid will begin to bother the lining of your stomach, if you don't have food for it to " gnaw on " . Feel Better, try that bath!

[sadia]

Lasparozles is a tablet 30mg is mostly for acid reflux.. Zantac we can buy over the counter here.. It's right side of throat all the way down chest and stomach.. Left side is not so bad... I know this is too much info but my breasts feel weird aswel lol

[Judie]

Lasparozles is a tablet 30mg is mostly for acid reflux.. Zantac we can buy over the counter here.. It's right side of throat all the way down chest and stomach.. Left side is not so bad... I know this is too much info but my breasts feel weird aswel lol
My Zantac is a prescription strength, ours is over the counter as well at a lower dose ( basically makes it more affordable as a prescription ) because all you would have to do is double up. It sounds like Acid Reflux, burning but have you told your Dr about your throat that is a side effect of the Carbimazole. I think that is definitely worth mentioning. Can you talk to your pharmacist ? Here our Pharmacists no more about side effects then our Drs. Is that true there ? They keep track of our meds in the computer and possible interactions etc.

[sadia]

Here u can ask your pharmacists but they done keep it on record or anything like that.. Yh I told her it burns and stuff and so does my stomach she's yh part of anxiety she's not much help..

[Judie]

Lasparozles is a tablet 30mg is mostly for acid reflux.. Zantac we can buy over the counter here.. It's right side of throat all the way down chest and stomach.. Left side is not so bad... I know this is too much info but my breasts feel weird aswel lol

Well Breasts always feel a bit weird lol, The breast thing is definitely not a concern, nerve endings everywhere that's all.

[sadia]

Lol that's ok then one less thing to worry about

[Judie]

Here u can ask your pharmacists but they done keep it on record or anything like that.. Yh I told her it burns and stuff and so does my stomach she's yh part of anxiety she's not much help..
Well Sadia, that's typical of anxiety sufferers and their Drs. They are really limited in what they can actually do. This is all about the person with the anxiety, mastering the disorder. A Dr, even a good therapist can guide you but they can't get inside your head and change your thoughts, you have to do that. Try the Zantac ( acid reducer ) plus the proton pump inhibitor( Prevacid, same as what you mentioned ) take both given that you will need four days the inhibitor to work.Are there any other Apps to listen to that " are uplifting ", I will check some out " it's a battle, get in the tub, your muscles will love you.

[sadia]

Yes I will try the tub out, at the min I'm in and out of the shower, everything I do I seem to rush so I can get it out of the way ..
And I will try the zantac and proton pump.. I haven't co across any apps my self jus use the one u advised me about

[Judie]

Yes I will try the tub out, at the min I'm in and out of the shower, everything I do I seem to rush so I can get it out of the way ..
And I will try the zantac and proton pump.. I haven't co across any apps my self jus use the one u advised me about

I am going to look for other Apps that may be good for you. I know that rushed feeling it's you nervous system in overdrive. You need to train that to slow down, the bath will help with that
I know the Apps may irritate you ( the voices ) but you really do need to do them.

[sadia]

Lol no they don't irritate me really. Actually makes me yawn and want. To sleep

[Judie]

Lol no they don't irritate me really. Actually makes me yawn and want. To sleep

Well that may be a good thing if it's at night lol

[sadia]

Lol yeah I usually listen to it at night in bed.. But I have to say the words sometimes run through my head during the day

[Judie]

Lol yeah I usually listen to it at night in bed.. But I have to say the words sometimes run through my head during the day

That's probably a good thing. I found us a couple Of Apps on positive thinking that may be good. I am thinking you, we , all of us really need to break our train of thoughts. These might help, I'll take a listen and see if they are tolerable lol. After talking to you earlier, I told my husband to fill up the Hot Tub. I really am aching all over and that has happened to me in the past when depression surfaces but it is also a side effect of Lipitor ( a med I am on to lower cholesterol, so we shall see ) For now Tubs for All lol, you have got to laugh at the foolishness of the demon anxiety :)

[sadia]

Lol I do laugh it time time, it's like I'm a little child scared of literally everything really.. JUDIE u r such a wonderful women going to trouble to find apps thanks.. Aww bless you hope u feel better after laying in the tub.. I knw the aching all over can be a extra stress

[Judie]

Lol I do laugh it time time, it's like I'm a little child scared of literally everything really.. JUDIE u r such a wonderful women going to trouble to find apps thanks.. Aww bless you hope u feel better after laying in the tub.. I knw the aching all over can be a extra stress

Thank you Sadia you're sweet. I was thinking I was just about your age when this surfaced in me as well. Well my tub is a 5 person Hot Tub so it will have to wait, but I definite want it filled ( you know jets and stuff ) We didn't fill it last year so this isa good reason :) I'm trying to find an App that's interesting.

[sadia]

Lol you luck woman jets and all sorts, u defo need that filling and relaxing in it.. I guess this is a life times problem know cuz once you get it, it really never goes away just fades down I'm presuming.. JUDIE do you work if so how do u manage it around your anxiety

[Judie]

Lol you luck woman jets and all sorts, u defo need that filling and relaxing in it.. I guess this is a life times problem know cuz once you get it, it really never goes away just fades down I'm presuming.. JUDIE do you work if so how do u manage it around your anxiety

When I first got thePanic Disorder 29 years old I worked with the public and continued to do so ( No Meds, no one familiar with the Disorder so honestly it was hell ) I was becoming afraid to go out, I had been very social and outgoing previously ,I happened to hear of Agoraphobia. It was really odd I was at the beach with my cousin ( and I had that disassociation feeling going on, so miserable, weighed 95 lbs and just so defeated and still convinced I was dying as my mom had died very quickly the year before ( hence the health/death anxiety) Anyway by the Grace of God ( someone was watching out for me) I opened my Glamour Magazine ( do you have it there? ) and there was an article on Panic Attacks/ Agoraphobia. I looked at my cousin and said " My God This Is Me " and it was ! I really began pushing myself then, going out to stores daily ( I hated it soooooo much ) but I was educating myself and empowering myself through knowledge and exposure. I was afraid to take meds, years later when it resurfaced I took SSRI's and found great relief. You need to stand up to this. I think some people have a few attacks, address it and that's the end of it but others perhaps due to genetic predisposition have periods or bouts of anxiety at " high" stress times. Is this life long ? Maybe but so are a lot of things like addiction, diabetes etc.. Will it alter your life ? Absolutely not unless you let it, it takes work to keep it at bay. I have worked at several things over the years, Paralegal, Teacher, Accountant and Artist ( I have my own studio beside my house ) I also have taken care of both parents when ill ( hence my knowledge of care taking, meds, what to do for certain things etc..) I have also been a strong support system for several people, that I believe I have helped along the way ( or so I have been told) Listen Sadia this isn't going to prevent you from having a wonderful, fulfilling life, husband, kids, great career you'll have it all. This is so manageable and for many completely beatable. I have had very stressful things in my life so at times I have gotten mildly depressed and it presents with Panic and bizarre symptoms. My life is good ! Trust me on that ! You just cannot allow this to develop into Agoraphobia, we will all help you with this. My bother and my stepson are both addicts/ alcoholics and I am now estranged from. ( one of my major life stressors ) Sadia, believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that I would much rather have a full blown Panic Disorder then an addiction. Always look for the positive, that's half the battle. Have you gone to college or had a career ? Don't get down about any of this, we need to start working on getting you out and some good mood elevating Apps!

[Judie]

When I first got thePanic Disorder 29 years old I worked with the public and continued to do so ( No Meds, no one familiar with the Disorder so honestly it was hell ) I was becoming afraid to go out, I had been very social and outgoing previously ,I happened to hear of Agoraphobia. It was really odd I was at the beach with my cousin ( and I had that disassociation feeling going on, so miserable, weighed 95 lbs and just so defeated and still convinced I was dying as my mom had died very quickly the year before ( hence the health/death anxiety) Anyway by the Grace of God ( someone was watching out for me) I opened my Glamour Magazine ( do you have it there? ) and there was an article on Panic Attacks/ Agoraphobia. I looked at my cousin and said " My God This Is Me " and it was ! I really began pushing myself then, going out to stores daily ( I hated it soooooo much ) but I was educating myself and empowering myself through knowledge and exposure. I was afraid to take meds, years later when it resurfaced I took SSRI's and found great relief. You need to stand up to this. I think some people have a few attacks, address it and that's the end of it but others perhaps due to genetic predisposition have periods or bouts of anxiety at " high" stress times. Is this life long ? Maybe but so are a lot of things like addiction, diabetes etc.. Will it alter your life ? Absolutely not unless you let it, it takes work to keep it at bay. I have worked at several things over the years, Paralegal, Teacher, Accountant and Artist ( I have my own studio beside my house ) I also have taken care of both parents when ill ( hence my knowledge of care taking, meds, what to do for certain things etc..) I have also been a strong support system for several people, that I believe I have helped along the way ( or so I have been told) Listen Sadia this isn't going to prevent you from having a wonderful, fulfilling life, husband, kids, great career you'll have it all. This is so manageable and for many completely beatable. I have had very stressful things in my life so at times I have gotten mildly depressed and it presents with Panic and bizarre symptoms. My life is good ! Trust me on that ! You just cannot allow this to develop into Agoraphobia, we will all help you with this. My bother and my stepson are both addicts/ alcoholics and I am now estranged from. ( one of my major life stressors ) Sadia, believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that I would much rather have a full blown Panic Disorder then an addiction. Always look for the positive, that's half the battle. Have you gone to college or had a career ? Don't get down about any of this, we need to start working on getting you out and some good mood elevating Apps!
No Sadia it definitely goes away completely !!!! You don't even think about it, just sometimes in times of stress or depression it can resurface but you recognize it and deal with it. SSRI's completely get rid of this. Also I guess I should let everyone know usually the " acute phase " is very short lived provided you stand up to it, take care of yourself, manage stress/ depression etc...Don't ever think it doesn't leave you , it does ! We just all are predisposed to anxiety like many are to addiction. Pick your poison right ?

[sadia]

Wow JUDIE you have a lot of going on in your life and your dealing with it well.. Yes we do get that magazine here.. And I understand every emotion u felt sitting on that beach I have felt the same.. Yes I have been to college I was at work but have took sick leave these last few weeks because it became to hard for me to leave the house..

I know I have to change my thought process just to find that way of doing so

[Judie]

Wow JUDIE you have a lot of going on in your life and your dealing with it well.. Yes we do get that magazine here.. And I understand every emotion u felt sitting on that beach I have felt the same.. Yes I have been to college I was at work but have took sick leave these last few weeks because it became to hard for me to leave the house..

I know I have to change my thought process just to find that way of doing so
Don't worry Sadia, we'll figure it out. You can do this !

[sadia]

Hiya.. I got a headache in the evening yesterday at the back of my head, sometimes it moves to the top, it lasted all night, but I was able to sleep, I woke this morning and headache was still there and still the same, but I have started to get a burning sensation moving around my head and forehead, and it's kind of itchy...

[sadia]

The itchy burning sensation is moving around my body know, making me feel weird

[shaikhrahuf]

The itchy burning sensation is moving around my body know, making me feel weird

Sadia first of all we are hyper sensitive to all this, let it happen if u want pop in a pain killer.. let it pass dont keep focussing on it.. d more u will think d more pressure u will get, everyone gets headache, its juz us who r very sensitive, go with d flow..

[sadia]

Thank you shaikhrahuf.. I know what you are saying new sensations always panic me I just need to get use to it

[Judie]

Thank you shaikhrahuf.. I know what you are saying new sensations always panic me I just need to get use to it

Hi Sadia, You will get used to it though. Just remember you know that reaction " Something's wrong , what is that ????? " that impending doom that sweeps over you. That is your warning sign, that is that "Ah ha" moment when you quickly respond with " this is anxiety, that's it, that's all " and then with all the logic you can muster ( Drs. , people on the forum in the back of your head ) you dismiss it and change your thoughts immediately ( your anxiety will run out of gas, don't refuel with negative thoughts )

[sadia]

Thank you JUDIE I am trying very hard with it jus new sensations everyday

[sadia]

Having a lot of throat problems today it's feeling sore and tight and so is the back if my neck and know I'm thinking great throat cancer, or something wrong with my lymphnodes

[Judie]

Having a lot of throat problems today it's feeling sore and tight and so is the back if my neck and know I'm thinking great throat cancer, or something wrong with my lymph nodes
Most likely seasonal allergies, everyone is having trouble from your country to mine ! That back of neck is probably just tense muscles, try a muscle Rub. NO NO NO ( lol ) I no lots about medicine. Your lymph nodes wouldn't hurt if there was something wrong and throat cancer doesn't present like that.Your anxiety is just trying to " trick" you, we talked about that. Once you get used to a symptom, it will produce a " new" one. That's why it"s critical that when your mind gives you that hint " I am dying something is wrong, impending doom " that's your " hint" that this is anxiety, and it is up to you to slam your door on those thoughts and divert your attention. Listen, heart attacks, brain tumors. cancer do not come out of the blue, only Panic comes out of the blue, that is in fact the " Hallmark of Panic". I am still looking over Apps, something I think may help break your train of thought. Now I want you to do something for me I want you to think about Anxiety and how awful it makes you feel, scares you etc....and then I want you to take notice of just how damn awful you feel " because you have fueled the anxiety and in fact made it worse. The next day I want you to do everything that you can think of to distract yourself, read a good book ( Shades of Grey ? lol ) draw or paint,learn to crochet or knit, pick out a wedding gown online ( sounds NUTS but actually kinda fun ) Go on to real estate website and look at houses., anything really just try and break those negative thoughts and at the end of the day take notice of how better you feel then if you just fuelled that anxiety. Be Well, take a bath ( not because your dirty :) )

[sadia]

I know JUDIE I do try to divert my train of thoughts but somehow end up back to where I began... Yes I will try to do some of what you have suggested to keep my mind of it all n take a bath.. What time is it over there

[Lin]

Sadia I hope that the good advice you have received on the forum has helped you, especially by realising you are not alone with the symptoms you experience.
Everyone is so individual and you have to find the things which help you personally.
Once you have ruled out any illness with your doctor, then finding the right tablets for anxiety or depression can help you.
Alternatives like meditation, hypnosis, reflexology etc can also help you overcome your anxiety and are well worth trying.
Your doctor should also be able to find you access to other help such as talking therapies or courses where you can learn coping techniques and meet others struggling too who you can talk to which really helps.

[sadia]

Hi Lin.. Yes I've been talking to people on this forum for jus over a week now and have to say it has helped me a lot, I thought I was the only one going through the thoughts that I was having but finding out that I'm not the only one has made me feel a bit better in some way... Doctor had prescribed me to medication which I don't really want to rely on to be honest..

How are you? If you don't mind me asking what type of anxiety do you suffer from?

[Judie]

I know JUDIE I do try to divert my train of thoughts but somehow end up back to where I began... Yes I will try to do some of what you have suggested to keep my mind of it all n take a bath.. What time is it over there

Sadia, just remember your anxiety will keep throwing new and different symptoms at you to alarm you.It will keep doing this until you stop reacting :) I know how hard it is, you know that. Hang in there, you are a young intelligent woman, much smarter then the anxiety . You will beat it.

[sadia]

Thank u JUDIE.. I had a few little glitches today where I thought here it comes, for instance in the evening my legs, shoulders and neck were feeling really heavy like I couldn't move, and when it happened a few days ago I freaked out, but today I jus told my mum n sister that its happening again and they just changed the subject and talked to me and the feeling passed after a while...

Is there anything you could suggest for my legs, they feel very weak and when I walk I walk as if I'm drunk all wonky lol have the least energy in them at the moment...

[Judie]

Thank u JUDIE.. I had a few little glitches today where I thought here it comes, for instance in the evening my legs, shoulders and neck were feeling really heavy like I couldn't move, and when it happened a few days ago I freaked out, but today I jus told my mum n sister that its happening again and they just changed the subject and talked to me and the feeling passed after a while...

Is there anything you could suggest for my legs, they feel very weak and when I walk I walk as if I'm drunk all wonky lol have the least energy in them at the moment...

Oh trust me I know those wobbly feelings well I have those all over legs and arm aches as we. Again remember this is the anxiety, so the more you can relax the better. Exercise, as hard as that sounds is the best thing for this, drunk or not lol. This will increase the oxygenated blood flow to your arms and legs. Your muscles are tense, keep using that APP to relax. You are feeling better in the morning and as the day goes on your anxiety is buffing. Tell your mum and sister. Great Job breaking your train of thought. That's wonderful you have such a great support system. Be Well ! Don't worry I am keeping at eye on you! Do your APP, eventually you will welcome that annoying woman. :)

[sadia]

Lol yes I am doing the app.. I know they helped me out was good I was thankful for not freaking out, I thank you a lot aswel you have been such a great support system to me aswel I will always appreciate it... Hope you have had a great day

[Lin]

Hi Lin.. Yes I've been talking to people on this forum for jus over a week now and have to say it has helped me a lot, I thought I was the only one going through the thoughts that I was having but finding out that I'm not the only one has made me feel a bit better in some way... Doctor had prescribed me to medication which I don't really want to rely on to be honest..

How are you? If you don't mind me asking what type of anxiety do you suffer from?

Don't mind you asking at all - my depression and anxiety is related to hormone imbalance. This time because of the menopause but in the past after an ectopic pregnancy, miscarriages and the birth of my one son. I also get Pelvic Inflammation Disease caused by hormone imbalance. My body just hates hormones.
Usually after post natal depression my hormones settle down after 5/6 months and they find an anti depressant which gives me a lift to help me and my husband through the time of the imbalance, although each time has got progressively worse, and my last bout in 1996 ended in hospital because I get suicidal.
This time because it is the menopause it has now lasted 2.5 years and me and my husband are really struggling to cope with it. I spent 7 weeks in hospital in 2011 and this time my body has rejected the main groups of anti depressants so that the psychiatrist has been unable to find the tablet to give me a lift to help me get through it, and the gynaecologist has struggled to find a solution to balancing the hormones for me during the menopause because my body hates hormones so much.
So this time has been a much worse and longer experience and we are really struggling after 2.5 years to cope with it.
I now go to meditation groups - one Buddha once a week, and one christian twice a month, and last week started up a new evening peer support group so that I could find other people to talk to but who work so can't go to daytime support groups.
I have also gone on courses run by the health service this time to learn techniques to help but my head explodes and when it does I just flip so all the techniques I have learned go out of my head and I just shout and scream, or at the moment take too many tablets, or ring Crisis etc for help.
I have been back at work full time since March 2012 but in November my old boss retired and a new boss started. Since she started in November 2012 I have had two knee operations, because of the weight I have put back on and not exercising because of my agrophobia tendencies this time, and also a small gynae operation to try and help with the hormones.
Having a new boss has not helped at all. I have lost the care, trust and support of my old boss who visited me every week in hospital in 2011 and was determined I was going to go back working for him. This new boss has not welcomed me back since my last knee operation with such a good welcome and has mentioned that I have previously showed signs of "mental illness" in the office and that had she not known me for 2 years as an internal candidate for being the new chief executive, that during my time with her since my first knee operation in December she would have got rid of me.
So now she has put a lot of pressure on my head at work - not only do I have to act normal all the time which is a constant struggle since I have been back at work, but now it feels like I am on probation to show her that I can do a job I have been doing for 13 years, but not show "mental illness". She has mentioned redeployment to me, and it has made my head go into panic mode every time I see her in case she thinks I am not well and not up to the job any more. So she has proved to be more stressful than actually managing to do the job.
In 32 years as a secretary/PA I have never had a boss who did not want me, and this is very new to me and hard to work with.
So work is causing to be a real pressure and so home life is even worse at the moment because that is where I explode or take the tablets etc etc etc. Not good fun for my husband especially.
Sorry long and rambling answer to a simple question, but hopefully you will now know where I am coming from with this illness.

[sadia]

Wow Lin I can't even begin to relate to the hardships you have and are going through.. But to me ypu sound like a very strong woman, who goes to work and hides all the struggles, because if that was me I'd freak out... So I commend you on that well done.. Hopefully your doctors will find the right treatment for you..

I've woke up around an hour and half ago and still sittin up in my bed, woke with legs and lower back feeling weak and sore, and my right arm feels slightly numb and my hand is burning which has put me right on edge, but I'm trying to tell my self that its nothing

[sadia]

Having a rough day today, every part of my body is aching.. Had a little cry to my dad this afternoon because the pain was getting to me.. Laid in t bath early this evening my neck and shoulders feel some what better... But my legs are in agony.. They hurt from the ankles all the to the top and my knee caps are killing.. I have no energy to walk on them at all..

I'm putting the pain down to me not moving around much always sitting in one place, but I haven't got the energy to walk.. Now I'm thinking my legs are giving in or it's a symptom of dying my extremities are slowing down one by one or something... Can someone plz suggest something I can do to get some energy back in my legs or any foods or something I can eat o get energy, little exercises or anything plzzzzz I would really appreciate it..

[mid]

I'm going to suggest trying magnesium tablets and more foods that have a lot of water in them to help get your electrolytes back in balance. The pain you mention is similar to what I deal with on a daily basis. I do movements like I was in water to change position, and do it gently to help the muscles and nerves move together. The pain is real, the physical symptoms can be released naturally once you have a base drawing to work with. I use a stick drawing to show my pain when and where, and then I add the options I use to help a specific symptom.
Taking it section by section will help you figure out which trigger is the worst when. For me, changing position is much easier now that I have practiced the flow motion. There are times I still jump, twist, and the results of that are obvious to everyone - I look like a contortionist complete with the silent scream face.
It's one of the more difficult assignments I have in cognitive behavior therapy to improve my normal daily living activities level to do certain things in public. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder with social phobia, and I no longer work because of the combined disability assessment. However, I worked great with an "understanding" boss, then a new boss came along like Lin describes, and all the accommodations previously approved by senior management were removed, and three weeks before my year probation period was completed, I was terminated for not being able to meet the standards for the promotion under the new boss. I have now learned techniques to manage the difficult moments with those types of people, which is their life experience is limited in dealing with medical conditions. Just because they say something does NOT mean I must respond in kind, I do have to be professional for my well-being, and in changing how I respond, it does effectively change the situation because their usual response no longer fits. If their remarks are personal, I put it to professional interest and keep it simple, calm, and positive. Lots of practice in front of the mirror to see how I look displaying confidence has helped, too. Hope this helps, and know you are not alone in this.

[Tova]

Having a rough day today, every part of my body is aching.. Had a little cry to my dad this afternoon because the pain was getting to me.. Laid in t bath early this evening my neck and shoulders feel some what better... But my legs are in agony.. They hurt from the ankles all the to the top and my knee caps are killing.. I have no energy to walk on them at all..

I'm putting the pain down to me not moving around much always sitting in one place, but I haven't got the energy to walk.. Now I'm thinking my legs are giving in or it's a symptom of dying my extremities are slowing down one by one or something... Can someone plz suggest something I can do to get some energy back in my legs or any foods or something I can eat o get energy, little exercises or anything plzzzzz I would really appreciate it..

Sadie,I just joined this,this very moment!
I too am having pain in my extremities...
I'm not real sure what or why you got to this point but maybe I can help you with some things that I do.
First I'd like to know if you are on a prescription drug at all?
I found myself in a whirlwind of prescribed meds that I did NOT need!
Now I'm struggling cold turkey and believe me it's painful.
If this has any relation to what you're going through give me a shout.

[Judie]

Having a rough day today, every part of my body is aching.. Had a little cry to my dad this afternoon because the pain was getting to me.. Laid in t bath early this evening my neck and shoulders feel some what better... But my legs are in agony.. They hurt from the ankles all the to the top and my knee caps are killing.. I have no energy to walk on them at all..

I'm putting the pain down to me not moving around much always sitting in one place, but I haven't got the energy to walk.. Now I'm thinking my legs are giving in or it's a symptom of dying my extremities are slowing down one by one or something... Can someone plz suggest something I can do to get some energy back in my legs or any foods or something I can eat o get energy, little exercises or anything plzzzzz I would really appreciate it..

Hi Sadia, Honestly I too am having a lot of pain in my legs and arms. I have started taking magnesium 250 mg a day and Vitamin B's for energy. Keep doing your App to make sure your arms and legs are getting enough oxygenated blood flow. I too have not been that active as of late and emotionally a bit down, as I am sure you are. That's good that you cried with your dad today, you released a bit. Anxiety goes hand and hand with depression and depression physically " hurts". I think that's what's going on., because of the anxiety/ depression the muscle are in a constant state of flex ( like lifting weights ) and they aren't relaxing. Start moving, that's what I am going to do, don't stay idle, really push yourself. Honestly I feel lousy too, I think I caught it from you Lol kidding. I know it's anxiety/ depression rearing its ugly head,... breathe, move, warm baths with Epsom salts, Magnesium ( definitely) and Vitamin B's . I will be doing the same and will let you know. Have someone feel your shoulders, most likely you will feel the knots. Feel Better, it does hurt I know :( Remember you are stronger then this Push OK. Are you still on the Carbimazole ?
As far as exercising just walk a bit, rest, walk again, keep moving and this will help. Also drink tons of water to stay hydrated !
Muscle Tension – The most common cause of muscle discomfort from anxiety is tension. Muscle tension is one of the most common anxiety symptoms, occurring whenever you're experiencing stress. Tension puts strain on your muscles and hardens them, which over time can cause your muscles to experience both dull and sharp pains.

[Tova]

Hi Sadia, Honestly I too am having a lot of pain in my legs and arms. I have started taking magnesium 250 mg a day and Vitamin B's for energy. Keep doing your App to make sure your arms and legs are getting enough oxygenated blood flow. I too have not been that active as of late and emotionally a bit down, as I am sure you are. That's good that you cried with your dad today, you released a bit. Anxiety goes hand and hand with depression and depression physically " hurts". I think that's what's going on., because of the anxiety/ depression the muscle are in a constant state of flex ( like lifting weights ) and they aren't relaxing. Start moving, that's what I am going to do, don't stay idle, really push yourself. Honestly I feel lousy too, I think I caught it from you Lol kidding. I know it's anxiety/ depression rearing its ugly head,... breathe, move, warm baths with Epsom salts, Magnesium ( definitely) and Vitamin B's . I will be doing the same and will let you know. Have someone feel your shoulders, most likely you will feel the knots. Feel Better, it does hurt I know :( Remember you are stronger then this Push OK. Are you still on the Carbimazole ?
As far as exercising just walk a bit, rest, walk again, keep moving and this will help.

Wonderful advise,that picked me up too!
Thanks,couldn't have said it better.

[sadia]

I'm going to suggest trying magnesium tablets and more foods that have a lot of water in them to help get your electrolytes back in balance. The pain you mention is similar to what I deal with on a daily basis. I do movements like I was in water to change position, and do it gently to help the muscles and nerves move together. The pain is real, the physical symptoms can be released naturally once you have a base drawing to work with. I use a stick drawing to show my pain when and where, and then I add the options I use to help a specific symptom.
Taking it section by section will help you figure out which trigger is the worst when. For me, changing position is much easier now that I have practiced the flow motion. There are times I still jump, twist, and the results of that are obvious to everyone - I look like a contortionist complete with the silent scream face.
It's one of the more difficult assignments I have in cognitive behavior therapy to improve my normal daily living activities level to do certain things in public. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder with social phobia, and I no longer work because of the combined disability assessment. However, I worked great with an "understanding" boss, then a new boss came along like Lin describes, and all the accommodations previously approved by senior management were removed, and three weeks before my year probation period was completed, I was terminated for not being able to meet the standards for the promotion under the new boss. I have now learned techniques to manage the difficult moments with those types of people, which is their life experience is limited in dealing with medical conditions. Just because they say something does NOT mean I must respond in kind, I do have to be professional for my well-being, and in changing how I respond, it does effectively change the situation because their usual response no longer fits. If their remarks are personal, I put it to professional interest and keep it simple, calm, and positive. Lots of practice in front of the mirror to see how I look displaying confidence has helped, too. Hope this helps, and know you are not alone in this.

Thank u mid for your response, I will look into the tablets you have suggested, after my bath yesterday I did try a few times to get up of the sofa and walk around a little, and trust me that was hard.. I can't believe some bosses can be like that, it can be a cruel world sometimes.. I've had to take sick leave from work myself because thinking about going work was giving me panic attacks..

[sadia]

Sadie,I just joined this,this very moment!
I too am having pain in my extremities...
I'm not real sure what or why you got to this point but maybe I can help you with some things that I do.
First I'd like to know if you are on a prescription drug at all?
I found myself in a whirlwind of prescribed meds that I did NOT need!
Now I'm struggling cold turkey and believe me it's painful.
If this has any relation to what you're going through give me a shout.

Hiya, to be honest with you I don't take my medication for anxiety because it doesn't help makes me worse... I'm only on 5mg of carbimazole for my hyperactive thyroid which is improving...

[sadia]

Hi Sadia, Honestly I too am having a lot of pain in my legs and arms. I have started taking magnesium 250 mg a day and Vitamin B's for energy. Keep doing your App to make sure your arms and legs are getting enough oxygenated blood flow. I too have not been that active as of late and emotionally a bit down, as I am sure you are. That's good that you cried with your dad today, you released a bit. Anxiety goes hand and hand with depression and depression physically " hurts". I think that's what's going on., because of the anxiety/ depression the muscle are in a constant state of flex ( like lifting weights ) and they aren't relaxing. Start moving, that's what I am going to do, don't stay idle, really push yourself. Honestly I feel lousy too, I think I caught it from you Lol kidding. I know it's anxiety/ depression rearing its ugly head,... breathe, move, warm baths with Epsom salts, Magnesium ( definitely) and Vitamin B's . I will be doing the same and will let you know. Have someone feel your shoulders, most likely you will feel the knots. Feel Better, it does hurt I know :( Remember you are stronger then this Push OK. Are you still on the Carbimazole ?
As far as exercising just walk a bit, rest, walk again, keep moving and this will help. Also drink tons of water to stay hydrated !
Muscle Tension – The most common cause of muscle discomfort from anxiety is tension. Muscle tension is one of the most common anxiety symptoms, occurring whenever you're experiencing stress. Tension puts strain on your muscles and hardens them, which over time can cause your muscles to experience both dull and sharp pains.

JUDIE I will defo get these tablets, and yes I'm still taking carbimazole, I have to till the doc says stop, but in feb I was started of on 20mg and I'm on 5mg now so it has improved a great deal.. Yes after my bath yesterday I got up a few times and walked around a little and boy was that tiring lol.. I can feel the knots myself in my shoulders a lot of tension there.. I hope you are feeling better JUDIE?

[sadia]

I've had a very rough night did not sleep till atleast 3am.. I felt so weird it was like the right side of my head felt numb and heavy I thought I was having a stroke.. And I just felt so uncomfortable with all the pains and aches I was having.. I felt like getting up and running into my parents room.. But I faught with it and fell asleep..

On to another day now..

[Tova]

Hiya, to be honest with you I don't take my medication for anxiety because it doesn't help makes me worse... I'm only on 5mg of carbimazole for my hyperactive thyroid which is improving...

That's good,sometimes less is better.
So sorry to hear that you're thyroid is a mess,that in itself will cause a plethora of symptoms.
Try to get that under control because as you know that's probably the cause of a lot of your pain.
I agree that a lot of meds for anxiety/depression does make things worse in the long run!

[sadia]

Hiya, I believe my thyroid is getting under control because within 3 months of being diagnosed my doasage was 20mg and now its reduced to 5mg a day so I have been told that it is improving.. I have ordered the magnesium and vitamin b tablets this morning as suggested by friends on this forum.. Hope you r doing well?

[Judie]

Hiya, I believe my thyroid is getting under control because within 3 months of being diagnosed my doasage was 20mg and now its reduced to 5mg a day so I have been told that it is improving.. I have ordered the magnesium and vitamin b tablets this morning as suggested by friends on this forum.. Hope you r doing well?

Hi Sadia, I read up more on this Muscle pain and Anxiety. This is caused by the excess of adrenaline and resulting muscle contactions ( flexing as if you are working out) The treatment of choice is to keep moving, as I suggested last night and also lots of water to keep hydrated. The Magnesium( no more then 300 mg a day) and Vitamin B's will be very helpful. I am now taking them daily. Don't panic at all about the numbness and tingling on your head that is caused by the muscle tension as well. I know it's scary but it is harmless as well. When you have that problem try turning your head from side to side ( not fast just Side to side all the way over so your chin is over your shoulder and then to the otherside- not fast just a relaxed stretch), this sends the brain a message to increase blood flow,( helps with numbness and tingling, that asleep feeling). Now remember that feeling that you wanted to go to your parents' room but you didn't and eventually fell back to sleep. This shows two things, 1) that you are gaining control over the anxiety by standing up to it, it isn't controlling you and 2) that it isn't a disease, a stroke or anything but anxiety. Have a fabulous day and get out there and move, even if it's just jumping jacks or running in place ( you can do this and not have to move but it will work by taking that free floating adrenaline and give it a place to ( rather then just create anxiety). Be Well, talk soon.
Progress with your Hyperactive Thyroid will help all of these symptoms. :)

[sadia]

I woke up this morning and ordered these tablets like u suggested.. Hope u can see the photo.. I know what u mean JUDIE I have gotten up a few times today and walked upstairs and back down.. Got a lot of head pressure on the right side n my head today and around my eye.. I've got an appointment with my doctor tomrw so will be talking to her about it aswel, not hat she will be much help lol.. I get more help from you.. How a re you JUDIE hope that your not in pain today


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[Judie]

I woke up this morning and ordered these tablets like u suggested.. Hope u can see the photo.. I know what u mean JUDIE I have gotten up a few times today and walked upstairs and back down.. Got a lot of head pressure on the right side n my head today and around my eye.. I've got an appointment with my doctor tomrw so will be talking to her about it aswel, not hat she will be much help lol.. I get more help from you.. How a re you JUDIE hope that your not in pain today


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those are perfect !

[sadia]

Looks like the pics haven't uploaded in the above comment.. Was just showing you the pills I ordered from holland and barrett

[sadia]

Lol good u can see them saying error on my end lol

[Lin]

Stadia hope Dr is able to help you and reassure you lots of symptoms you are getting is from anxiety. It is just amazing what depression and anxiety can cause in your body. I have just discovered how many strange symptoms menopause can cause which I never realised.
I think exercise is definite key to feeling better. When I was staying in all time I was a lot worse than now had knee operations and started walking again. Also I try mindfulness when can so appreciate the trees and birds etc, but that only works when head is better.
Hope to hear some good news from you soon after Dr and other things you are trying.

[sadia]

Hey Lin, good to hear you are doing better... Yes have doctors tomorrow with a list of new symptoms lol.. I knw what you mean every day there is a new symptom for instance today both palms have had a burning sensation, right side of face and eye burning sensation, and now right knee cap and elbow have a burning sensation.. So got to see what that is about.. How has your day been

[Judie]

[QUOTE=sadia;97595]I woke up this morning and ordered these tablets like u suggested.. Hope u can see the photo.. I know what u mean JUDIE I have gotten up a few times today and walked upstairs and back down.. Got a lot of head pressure on the right side n my head today and around my eye.. I've got an appointment with my doctor tomrw so will be talking to her about it aswel, not hat she will be much help lol.. I get more help from you.. How a re you JUDIE hope that your not in pain today

Hi Sadia, I feel a little better today, I took the magnesium and vitamin B's but more importantly I moved around more ( did some cleaning etc and I believe that really helped. I found I was teary eyed today and last night so I know this is a bit of anxiety and depression making a bit of an appearance lol Not really happy about that but Hot Tub will be ready this weekend. When anxiety crops up on me I tend to get less active and that is probably the worst thing we can do as we have got to channel that adrenaline and get some of those endorphins going through exercise. I swam all winter at a local pool in a hotel but it's too crowded now as I live in a Summer Resort Area. I know not swimming ( exercise) 3 months has caused this...lol...keep on moving. I can't wait to hear what your Dr has to say. Let me know. Feel Better !

[Lin]

Sadia - Had better day yesterday because boss on leave so only contact by texts and emails, also managed to leave work early which was brill. Typed up my notes about work for meeting with mental health nurse and occupational health manager ready for meeting on thursday. On paper boss' comments nearly every day do not seem that bad, but when happen I just can't cope with them. I think she said such nasty things at meeting with her when she decided I could go back to work that anything she says to me makes me upset even if she doesn't mean any harm.
Just hoping nurse and occ health help me on Thursday how I can handle the comments and not get upset because at moment my head is exploding and it is making home worse too.
How are you feeling today?

[sadia]

Hey Lin.. I hope everything goes well for you.. I wouldn't take what your boss says to heart, some people just have a certain tone and manner of speaking.. Don't let her get to you.. I wouldn't say my day was terrible I woke up and the right side of my head and face felt heavy and a burning sensation, the burning sensation travelled to my right elbow, hand and knee cap which was weird had a little cry about that as it lasted all day until I went to bed... Now today I've woke up around 9am right arm stills feels weird I think I've got a pinched nerve or something above the elbow arm feels heavy and sore, and have a slight burning sensation in both palms.. I have my doctors appointment this afternoon so will see what she says... Hope you have a good day Lin..

[sadia]

Hi JUDIE I know what you mean I become less active when my anxiety kicks in, the weekend is hours away so make sure you get in that hot tub and and relax.. I did get up and around yesterday few times wasn't in much pain.. Apart from having burning sensations in parts of my body.. Yes I will defo let you know what the doctors say I will be seeing her later in the day..

[sadia]

Hiya JUDIE I just got back on the doctors.. I told her about these burning sensations I had around one side of head, eye, palms etc and her reply was quote " hmm hmmm that's strange" so I guess that was my answer.. I also told her about all these pains I'm having e.g legs, head, joints.. She said its effect from new tablets and I told her ive had the pain long before that, and could it be due to the carbimazole she said it could be but we can't ate you off that... So there's no defiant answer there aswel... I also told her I walked to the doctors today which is a 5 min walk from my house and I am absolutely shattered my knees feel wobbly it's like I'm bouncing as I walk I have no energy.. And her reply was right ok so it was a great appointment lol.. I told her my stomach is always burning n I suggested ppi medication and she said the lasparozles that u r on are ppi's I was like they don't work so she gave me some peptac liquid peppermint to have 4 times a day and requested some blood tests to be done for any stomach infection and and full blood count (fbc).. So I will be having those done on Monday...

[Lin]

Hey Lin.. I hope everything goes well for you.. I wouldn't take what your boss says to heart, some people just have a certain tone and manner of speaking.. Don't let her get to you.. I wouldn't say my day was terrible I woke up and the right side of my head and face felt heavy and a burning sensation, the burning sensation travelled to my right elbow, hand and knee cap which was weird had a little cry about that as it lasted all day until I went to bed... Now today I've woke up around 9am right arm stills feels weird I think I've got a pinched nerve or something above the elbow arm feels heavy and sore, and have a slight burning sensation in both palms.. I have my doctors appointment this afternoon so will see what she says... Hope you have a good day Lin..

Another bad day this time, another secretary had been told that I said that if I left my job that she wouldn't take it on because she had hated doing it when I was off sick. But she wouldn't tell me who had said it to her, but asked that I don't say it to anyone in the future because it is not very professional. So apologised and all day been upset trying to think who I would have said it to and can only think of 3 people and 2 of them said they haven't mentioned it to her. So the other person is someone who sits in the same room as her, but when I mentioned to her that I had spoken to that person yesterday and it might have come up she said it wasn't her.
Been upset all morning, just wished I had not told anyone how feeling. But I know I have only told handful of people how bad my return was and only about 3 people about her and my deputy wouldn't do my job if i left.
Although she said not to worry and just not do it in the future, just can't get it out of my head.
Just can't do anything right at all for anyone at the moment, nothing is good, I really really really hate my life and don't know what to do.
Even my boss phoned in again today and although I thought I sounded OK yet again she asked if I was stressed, so she must have picked up that I was down about what had happened about this other woman. But said yet again that I wasn't stressed and was OK and was going to leave work early again since she was on leave.
All just getting me down.
Said I wouldn't leave this job because of this stupid depression during the menopause but it is getting harder and harder to cope with the pressure at work, and I bring the pressure home so home life is rubbish too.
Just feel pressure in head is going to explode and don't know how to handle it.
Sorry Sadia, didn't mean to ramble on, but just such a bad day again.

Hope you have had a better day and have been feeling less weird and burning. It is really sunny here today, have you tried a little walk or sit in the garden? The sun might do you good even for a few minutes.

Lin

[sadia]

Hiya Lin days not been bad, yes I walked to doctors and back, weather is nice.. But have to say the walk has left me tired even tho it's a 5 min walk each way.. So the lack of energy has got me worried..

Lin dont worry, your boss knows what you have been through so I think that question is always going to pop up, you just got to be strong and say yes I am fine and carry on with your work.. And as for the thing that happend today it doesn't sound like a big issue, jus take it as a learning experience and not really share your thoughts with colleagues because some you can't trust some people.. Just keep your focus on your work and the day will pass.. You've got the weekend now so relax and enjoy dont let today ruin ur evening and weekend

[Judie]

Another bad day this time, another secretary had been told that I said that if I left my job that she wouldn't take it on because she had hated doing it when I was off sick. But she wouldn't tell me who had said it to her, but asked that I don't say it to anyone in the future because it is not very professional. So apologised and all day been upset trying to think who I would have said it to and can only think of 3 people and 2 of them said they haven't mentioned it to her. So the other person is someone who sits in the same room as her, but when I mentioned to her that I had spoken to that person yesterday and it might have come up she said it wasn't her.
Been upset all morning, just wished I had not told anyone how feeling. But I know I have only told handful of people how bad my return was and only about 3 people about her and my deputy wouldn't do my job if i left.
Although she said not to worry and just not do it in the future, just can't get it out of my head.
Just can't do anything right at all for anyone at the moment, nothing is good, I really really really hate my life and don't know what to do.
Even my boss phoned in again today and although I thought I sounded OK yet again she asked if I was stressed, so she must have picked up that I was down about what had happened about this other woman. But said yet again that I wasn't stressed and was OK and was going to leave work early again since she was on leave.
All just getting me down.
Said I wouldn't leave this job because of this stupid depression during the menopause but it is getting harder and harder to cope with the pressure at work, and I bring the pressure home so home life is rubbish too.
Just feel pressure in head is going to explode and don't know how to handle it.
Sorry Sadia, didn't mean to ramble on, but just such a bad day again.

Hope you have had a better day and have been feeling less weird and burning. It is really sunny here today, have you tried a little walk or sit in the garden? The sun might do you good even for a few minutes.

Lin
Hi Lin, Sadia is right, be careful who you talk to at work. There are always those individuals that are dying to stir the Pot and run back to the boss with everything. Here we call them Brown Nosers or Kiss Asses, something you don't want to be called this lol. Let it go now because you are protecred legally under medical issues but if you boss can bring in ( and prove through this person)discord in the office it becomes a different story. Vent through the Forum, that way you don't have to worry about who has your back or doesn't ( it's just one more stress you don't need) You have a lot of pent up anger from work and hormones. You need to release hat anger. Maybe a punching back I'm serious, draw a picture of the women's face on it. Do you guys have anger management classes over there. I remember those feelings like my head was going to explode, accompanied by hot flushed face, horrible I personally used ice bag or cold packs. It did help. Feel Better.

[sadia]

Hi Lin, Sadia is right, be careful who you talk to at work. There are always those individuals that are dying to stir the Pot and run back to the boss with everything. Here we call them Brown Nosers or Kiss Asses, something you don't want to be called this lol. Let it go now because you are protecred legally under medical issues but if you boss can bring in ( and prove through this person)discord in the office it becomes a different story. Vent through the Forum, that way you don't have to worry about who has your back or doesn't ( it's just one more stress you don't need) You have a lot of pent up anger from work and hormones. You need to release hat anger. Maybe a punching back I'm serious, draw a picture of the women's face on it. Do you guys have anger management classes over there. I remember those feelings like my head was going to explode, accompanied by hot flushed face, horrible I personally used ice bag or cold packs. It did help. Feel Better.

Totally agree with judie

[Judie]

Hiya JUDIE I just got back on the doctors.. I told her about these burning sensations I had around one side of head, eye, palms etc and her reply was quote " hmm hmmm that's strange" so I guess that was my answer.. I also told her about all these pains I'm having e.g legs, head, joints.. She said its effect from new tablets and I told her ive had the pain long before that, and could it be due to the carbimazole she said it could be but we can't ate you off that... So there's no defiant answer there aswel... I also told her I walked to the doctors today which is a 5 min walk from my house and I am absolutely shattered my knees feel wobbly it's like I'm bouncing as I walk I have no energy.. And her reply was right ok so it was a great appointment lol.. I told her my stomach is always burning n I suggested ppi medication and she said the lasparozles that u r on are ppi's I was like they don't work so she gave me some peptac liquid peppermint to have 4 times a day and requested some blood tests to be done for any stomach infection and and full blood count (fbc).. So I will be having those done on Monday...
Hi Sadia. Good I'm glad she gave you another antacid, you need that in conjunction with the PPI. I took both as well as something called carafate ( coats your stomach, but you should be good with the two you have) First, let me congratulate you on making it to the Drs, feeling that lousy. Yes, I think she, like me thinks it may be the Carbimazole along with anxiety that's making you feel lousy, but sometimes the side effect can be tough but the treatment is needed. What other tablet is she saying could be causing this ? I haven't heard you mentioned others. Seeing as we don't know if it is a side effect or not and I feel very very achy as well, let's both agree for now that it is anxiety. This has happened to me before. It's tough for me as well given that I am on a Statin( Lipitor) for cholesterol and one of the biggest side effects is extreme muscle aches ( so I am going to treat it as anxiety for now and keep pushing :) Yay !!! Sadia, I did want to ask you how did this start for you ? Did you find out then that you had a hyperactive thyroid or did you know this before symptoms ? Be Well, Talk Soon. When do your vitamins arrive ?

[Lin]

Hiya Lin days not been bad, yes I walked to doctors and back, weather is nice.. But have to say the walk has left me tired even tho it's a 5 min walk each way.. So the lack of energy has got me worried..

Lin dont worry, your boss knows what you have been through so I think that question is always going to pop up, you just got to be strong and say yes I am fine and carry on with your work.. And as for the thing that happend today it doesn't sound like a big issue, jus take it as a learning experience and not really share your thoughts with colleagues because some you can't trust some people.. Just keep your focus on your work and the day will pass.. You've got the weekend now so relax and enjoy dont let today ruin ur evening and weekend

Thanks Sadia, you have made me feel much better and put it all into perspective for me today. Some days you just can't get it straight in your head and it makes your head explode.
Not worry about feeling tired even after a small walk, it takes a long time to get energy levels back up when you have been ill and not been doing much movement. At least you got out and had a walk which is a huge achievement, so you should be pleased and focus on it as a positive and know that your energy levels will increase the more exercise you do.
You have a good weekend too, sounds like weather is going to be good too.
Lin

[sadia]

Hi Sadia. Good I'm glad she gave you another antacid, you need that in conjunction with the PPI. I took both as well as something called carafate ( coats your stomach, but you should be good with the two you have) First, let me congratulate you on making it to the Drs, feeling that lousy. Yes, I think she, like me thinks it may be the Carbimazole along with anxiety that's making you feel lousy, but sometimes the side effect can be tough but the treatment is needed. What other tablet is she saying could be causing this ? I haven't heard you mentioned others. Seeing as we don't know if it is a side effect or not and I feel very very achy as well, let's both agree for now that it is anxiety. This has happened to me before. It's tough for me as well given that I am on a Statin( Lipitor) for cholesterol and one of the biggest side effects is extreme muscle aches ( so I am going to treat it as anxiety for now and keep pushing :) Yay !!! Sadia, I did want to ask you how did this start for you ? Did you find out then that you had a hyperactive thyroid or did you know this before symptoms ? Be Well, Talk Soon. When do your vitamins arrive ?

Hiya, thank u JUDIE.. The other tablet is trazadone for anxiety but to be honest I don't take it.. Yes I will agree about the achy ness with u.. I've been suffering with panic attacks from age of 18 since my mums youngest brother my uncle passed away.. But they were jus now and then.. But this time yeah I have to say once I got diagnosed with the hyperactive thyroid it all started but sooooooo much worse I have Neva been ill like this in my life.. And now I can't seem to control the crying and panic attacks as you know.. My vitamins should arrive tomorrow or Monday the latest...

How are you doing today

[sadia]

Thanks Sadia, you have made me feel much better and put it all into perspective for me today. Some days you just can't get it straight in your head and it makes your head explode.
Not worry about feeling tired even after a small walk, it takes a long time to get energy levels back up when you have been ill and not been doing much movement. At least you got out and had a walk which is a huge achievement, so you should be pleased and focus on it as a positive and know that your energy levels will increase the more exercise you do.
You have a good weekend too, sounds like weather is going to be good too.
Lin

I'm glad your feeling better Lin, always leave work issues at work.. Don't think too much about it and you will be fine.. Talk to us on here and you won't be afraid about us going and telling your boss..

Thank u for saying that that's what my mum just said that I need to keep walking and doing small things to build up my energy again.. Which I will try and do everyday now..

[cagedbutterfly]

I'm glad your feeling better Lin, always leave work issues at work.. Don't think too much about it and you will be fine.. Talk to us on here and you won't be afraid about us going and telling your boss..

Thank u for saying that that's what my mum just said that I need to keep walking and doing small things to build up my energy again.. Which I will try and do everyday now..

I started Zoloft yesterday and I feel like crap...anyone else experience this?

[Judie]

I'm glad your feeling better Lin, always leave work issues at work.. Don't think too much about it and you will be fine.. Talk to us on here and you won't be afraid about us going and telling your boss..

Thank u for saying that that's what my mum just said that I need to keep walking and doing small things to build up my energy again.. Which I will try and do everyday now..
Ok Trazidone is what they have given you for anxiety. Did that make you feel worse ? That is usually used as a sleep aid and pretty strong from what I have observed..Drugs of choice here in the US are usually the SSRI's and they are extremely effective in stoping the obsessing about Panic and helping with depression. They are not mind altering, nor do they have bad side effects often. Ok ,what I think is an underlying death anxiety surfaced after your uncle died at a relatively young age. I think you were able to keep that in check for a couple of reasons 1) you were only 18 and you were still able to identify death as " far" off in the future, although it effected you and had you concerned, the thoughts weren't all consuming 2) fast forward 9 years you are now getting older ( why I asked your age in earlier posts) and then boom you get a physical diagnosis ( now you are flooded with negative thoughts about getting older and being sick and death)How old was your uncle when he died, and how did he die ? The reality is you not old ( you are just a kid lol) and your hyperactive thyroid is annoying but treatable. Death Anxiety, which more often then not iinitially triggered by trauma, a death or acute sickness of yourself or someone you love. Your uncle's death upset your family balance, made death a very real possibility, but when you were younger it was easier to push those thoughts away. We will get you through this. I would ask your Dr about SSRI's unless you have tried them ? You must have been a bit " off " on the Trazidone or no ?

[sadia]

Hey cagedbutterfly with many medications the doctors say they take a few weeks till they settle in your system... And can make you feel worse at first and slowly you should feel better once they settle..

That's what I don't like the feeling worse then you already do.. Hope you don't feel too bad, see how you go for a few days and if you can handle the side effects if not give your doctor a call on monday

[sadia]

Ok Trazidone is what they have given you for anxiety. Did that make you feel worse ? That is usually used as a sleep aid and pretty strong from what I have observed..Drugs of choice here in the US are usually the SSRI's and they are extremely effective in stoping the obsessing about Panic and helping with depression. They are not mind altering, nor do they have bad sideeffectsvthen. Ok what I think is an underlying death anxiety after your uncle died at a relatively young age. I think you were able to keep this in check for a couple of reasons 1) you were only 18 and you were still able to identify death as " far" off in the future, although it effected and had you concerned, the thoughts weren't all consuming 2) fast forward 9 years you are now getting older ( why I asked your age in earlier posts) and then boom you get a physical diagnosis ( now you are flooded with negative thoughts about getting older and being sick ) How old was your uncle when he died, and how did he die ? The reality is you not old ( you are just a kid lol) and your hyperactive thyroid is annoying but treatable. Death Anxiety, which more often then not iinitially triggered by trauma, a death or acute sickness of yourself or someone you love. Your uncle's death upset your family balance, made death a very real possibility, but when you were younger it was easier to push those thoughts away. We will get you through this. I would ask your Dr about SSRI's unless you have tried them ? You must have been a bit " off " on the Trazidone or no ?

I don't take the trazadone there sitting in my cupboard, I couldn't go through any more symptoms to be honest, I have tried ssri's and they didn't help much.. I say you helped me the most talking to you has helped me a lot and I will always be great full for that honestly..

My uncle passed away at 46 from bowel cancer which spread all over up to his lungs was a very hard time...

[Judie]

I started Zoloft yesterday and I feel like crap...anyone else experience this?

Zoloft, like all of the SSRI's take a bit of time to work. Chances are it is still your anxiety increasing and anticipation of drug effects that you may be experiencing. But that being said give it a couple of weeks as there are many options out there. People are individualized with these and one can be better. Then another ( Celexa, lexapro, Paxil, Prozac )to name a few. Give it a bit of time and see how you manage.
Just like the anxiety put the thoughts of side effects of Zoloft out of your head, focus away from negative, it's poison and the body hates poison.Be Well

[Tova]

Hiya Lin days not been bad, yes I walked to doctors and back, weather is nice.. But have to say the walk has left me tired even tho it's a 5 min walk each way.. So the lack of energy has got me worried..

Lin dont worry, your boss knows what you have been through so I think that question is always going to pop up, you just got to be strong and say yes I am fine and carry on with your work.. And as for the thing that happend today it doesn't sound like a big issue, jus take it as a learning experience and not really share your thoughts with colleagues because some you can't trust some people.. Just keep your focus on your work and the day will pass.. You've got the weekend now so relax and enjoy dont let today ruin ur evening and weekend

If you've been on ANY anti anxiety meds you may have low sodium level.
They can and do lower it just enough to make you feel really really weak and lousy,head swims too!
If its below 135 ( normal) that could be it!
Talk to you're Dr.

[Judie]

I don't take the trazadone there sitting in my cupboard, I couldn't go through any more symptoms to be honest, I have tried ssri's and they didn't help much.. I say you helped me the most talking to you has helped me a lot and I will always be great full for that honestly..

My uncle passed away at 46 from bowel cancer which spread all over up to his lungs was a very hard time...

That's horrible, my mom died of Liver Cancer, that triggered my death anxiety. I was about your age. I think you need to always pull in logic to this, Your uncle sadly missed an early diagnosis, no screening etc. Somethings are sadly and tragically meant to be. That's the whole thing with learning to let go of things we can't control. My daughter 22 ( also depression and anxiety ) is going through the old " what does it matter, none of this matters, we're all going to die anyway. The reality is for you , my daughter, me, everyone here it takes an awful lot of effort to think that negatively and that energy ( adrenaline) zaps of us our strength. It is far easier and healthier to accept an approach of " Let the day go on and on" Wild Child by Enya. If we were all able to control the bad in life, we would have control of he good in life. Sound good ? Not really, it robs us of the magic in life. One night years ago my friend called me as she had a big fight with her husband and wanted me to go out for a bit. We stopped at a very small Pub at a Golf Course, in total there were five of us at the Pub, my future husband was one of the five. Without my friend's fight with her husband and my husband just stopping in on his way home from work, I wouldn't be here now. That's the magic, don't ever lose sight of that. I' m quite confident your Uncle keeps an eye on you as well. Keep moving Sadia, you'll beat this.

[sadia]

Aww so sorry about your mum... Know what you are saying is right it's just about programming my brain agen into positive thoughts, and not letting each pain make me thnk of death.. I hope your daughter is doing well and gets better

[Judie]

Aww so sorry about your mum... Know what you are saying is right it's just about programming my brain agen into positive thoughts, and not letting each pain make me thnk of death.. I hope your daughter is doing well and gets better

My daughter is doing Ok, she is up and down. It's that college separation thing going on ( missing close friends as they bonded over the years ) but mostly not having a job, figuring out what she wants to do etc. She puts too much pressure on herself, anxiety people do that. She is on a low dose of Celexa and would like to come off, so we shall see. She like you is her own worst enemy lol ( you both go to the Negative, I would like to dunk you both in Serotonin :) to boost you up ) No seriously it is your age, 20's kind of bridging adulthood, scary times, lots of uncertainty.When did you try the SSRI's ? There is another class ( Tri- Cyclic Antideppressants - Elavil ? ) that are given a lot for pain associated with muscles, nerves and joints ( like Rheumaticism, Arthritis and Carpal Tunnel etc as well as sleeping ). I think f you can get through without anything that would be great but I don't want to see you suffer. After you walk, your tired but is there any relief later, like after your bath ?

[sadia]

Yes after my walk I sat down for a bit and I felt better, I even walked in the garden for 10 mins about an hour ago and I really didn't get tired, which makes me think that maybe I gear myself up to much that I am going out and that takes it out if me as wel lol I,just don't know to be honest, and after the bath my shoulders and neck feel much better..

I tried the ssri's in march, April time not much difference, lol if I lived any where by you I wud happily let you dunk me lol ...

[Judie]

Yes after my walk I sat down for a bit and I felt better, I even walked in the garden for 10 mins about an hour ago and I really didn't get tired, which makes me think that maybe I gear myself up to much that I am going out and that takes it out if me as wel lol I,just don't know to be honest, and after the bath my shoulders and neck feel much better..

I tried the ssri's in march, April time not much difference, lol if I lived any where by you I wud happily let you dunk me lol ...

I know such a shame you live so far away. That's really good that you feel better after you push yourself. Try like an IcyHot Muscle Rub on your neck and shoulders. But don't do it around bath or shower time as immediately after your tub, your pores open from the warm water and it will burn but other wise really good. Helps me a lot with muscle knots and migraines,people hold their stress in their neck and shoulders. I need to dunk myself too, actually I'm feeling better. Vitamin B's give you energy and the magnesium does help as well :)

[sadia]

I'm glad your feeling better JUDIE.. The weekend is here now so not long till u can relax in your tub and relax.. I do try and get ointments and rub into neck and shoulders, and I agree with you they do help... My vitamins should be arriving any day so should start gettin some energy back hopefully..

[Lin]

Stadia thanks - you are right about leaving work problems at work, but even know I should i can't at moment. My head is just so full.
Sounds like walk and time in garden did you good today.
I think weather meant to be good all weekend so hope you manage to get out again.

[sadia]

Stadia thanks - you are right about leaving work problems at work, but even know I should i can't at moment. My head is just so full.
Sounds like walk and time in garden did you good today.
I think weather meant to be good all weekend so hope you manage to get out again.

Try your best Lin, I knw it must be hard.. Take one step at a time.. Yh shud have a walk in the garden agen today, need to get my energy bak in my legs lol.. Hope u have a good day

[sadia]

My tablets have arrived will start them today

[Judie]

My tablets have arrived will start them today

:)))))))))

[sadia]

Hi JUDIE hope your well, yes I took my tablets today hopefully they will kick in soon so this pain and weakness can calm down

[Lin]

Thanks Stadia. I feel much better today, I had reflexology and then met my old boss' wife for lunch and she let me talk all about new boss and I feel much better about it than did yesterday. Only stayed in bed from 10.30-12.00 and then up all night awake on forum and watching TV. Hope I sleep tonight now had better day and got boss out of my head.
Had a walk for 30 minutes in sun from reflexology into the town for lunch so been out too.
Hope you have managed to get out today in the lovely sun and are feeling better today.
Lin

[sadia]

Hey Lin it's great that your doing better today, and managed to get out..

I had a good night sleep slept from 1 am till around 9am... Woke up had a shower.. Just have constant pain in my right leg ATM trying to ignore it but can... Yeah went into my garden for around 30 mins got nieces and nephews round watching them run around

[sadia]

Since I've had this bout of anxiety my feet have been extremely cold almost freezing all day long.. Does anyone else suffer from this

[Lin]

I get raynauds disease where my feet and hands get really cold so go white and numb and then when warming up go bright pink and hurt. When I was in hospital they put me on lithium and it made this much worse so that even in summer my hands and feet were blue with cold and I had to wear gloves and have a hot water bottle at night. They realised in end and took me off the lithium and now it is back to normal, but I still get it in summer just by being in the freezer department of a shop. There is a tablet you can take every day to stop it but I have tried to manage without it.

[sadia]

My hands are always warm and my feet use to be the same, but recently there always freezing they just warm up when I lay in bed that's it..

[Judie]

My hands are always warm and my feet use to be the same, but recently there always freezing they just warm up when I lay in bed that's it..

That's Ok Sadia , that's just an example of the shallow breathing and poor circulation to your Piggies. Just warm them up, get under the covers. That will increase the circulation and keep moving and do that APP. How many times do I have to tell you, LOL You know I'm kidding but honestly that's what this is breathing and moving. Did you walk today ?

[sadia]

Lol I'm sorry JUDIE but I have to ask or I drive my self crazy all day Long.. Yes I went out in the garden twice 30mins each and lil walk and sat on the wall for a while.. We've got some nice weather for a change lol... Did you relax in your tub yet??

[Judie]

Lol I'm sorry JUDIE but I have to ask or I drive my self crazy all day Long.. Yes I went out in the garden twice 30mins each and lil walk and sat on the wall for a while.. We've got some nice weather for a change lol... Did you relax in your tub yet??
Not yet, tomorrow maybe. My husband has to fill it up and we need chlorine ( Maybe Monday ) My aches are a bit better but I'm pretty sure I have Bursitis in my knee as it is quite swollen. No big deal honestly, it doesn't really hurt. I am taking my magnesium and B's though ! :) I was just teasing before, you should ask about your symptoms to put your mind at ease. Good , getting out in the Garden. I always think of the Secret Garden when I hear you mention your garden. Be Well, talk soon. Hang in there. I can't find any good Apps , not yet anyway :(

[sadia]

Don't worry about the apps JUDIE take your time... Lol I know you were teasing, we get a lot of sun in the garden when we do get some sun, I took my tablets today hopefully should see a difference soon.. Glad your aches have settled.. Have a good weekend.. X

[sadia]

Hi hope everyone is ok jus sat in the garden for a few hours, and all of a sudden my lips have gone cold and I'm panicking on the inside now

[Judie]

Hi Sadia, Good for you out in the Garden. I can't wait for you to post me a picture. I will post one of my hydrangeas when they bloom as well, Try to take your focus away from the symptoms. Practice this -when you start to focus on health symptoms, get that impending doom feeling or begin thinking about anything negative say loudly and with determination to yourself or out loud if alone the word " ENOUGH" and then imagine a door slamming, actually hear that door slamming on those thoughts and then bring your thoughts to a positive place. This is an easy exercise for Anxiety Peeps to master because they are incredibly imaginative people. When I had horrific Panic Attacks would cause my body temperature to drop to 94 degrees from 98.6 I would constantly be shivering. Just warm yourself, Panic Attacks effect many parts of our Nervous System, one of the things effected is the Hypothalamus Gland, this is situated in the brain and regulates our body temperature as one of its functions. Anxiety Attacks cause our system to go out of wack that's all. It's not dangerous and you can combat that by simply warming yourself :) Right now Anxiety is fighting for space in your mind and it wants a large controlling space. Your mind is comfortable with Anxiety because it has become familiar with it. You have given so much attention to Anxiety that the mind( thoughts ) want to go to what is familiar. By doing the above exercise and really commanding your mind ( thoughts) to change direction from negative to positive. Practice ok. Muscles feeling better ?, they will, give it a bit of time. My Hot Tub is filled with Serotonin ( but still cold as it is heating up ) I have a Meeting tomorrow night but Tuesday I'm dipping :) Fly on over ! You know I'm keeping an eye on you. Be Well K

[sadia]

Thank up f the advice JUDIE, always seem to calm down after talking to u.. I will try that exercise for sure, I do try for most of the day to keep the anxiety at bay but there's a couple of hours in the day where I can't control it lol.. Just gotta learn to let go.. Erm muscles are feeling slightly better but if I walk to much I feel tired again but I know it will take time.. Everyday there's and ache or pain In a new place lol so startles me.. But I will take on that exercise.. Your right when you say my mind has got use to the anxiety it's comfortable with it now.... Ooo lucky you your tub is filling up bet you can't wait to take a soak in that lol.. I'm glad you've had a good day

[Judie]

Thank up f the advice JUDIE, always seem to calm down after talking to u.. I will try that exercise for sure, I do try for most of the day to keep the anxiety at bay but there's a couple of hours in the day where I can't control it lol.. Just gotta learn to let go.. Erm muscles are feeling slightly better but if I walk to much I feel tired again but I know it will take time.. Everyday there's and ache or pain In a new place lol so startles me.. But I will take on that exercise.. Your right when you say my mind has got use to the anxiety it's comfortable with it now.... Ooo lucky you your tub is filling up bet you can't wait to take a soak in that lol.. I'm glad you've had a good day

Yes sleep tight. I think the magnesium and B's will really help and definitely the trips to the Garden ! There won't be a symptom you come up that I haven't had and I know that you will find comfort in that. When mine surfaced no one had a clue what it was. They would just blankly stare at me or say Oh you're anorexic ? ( because I had lost so much weight from not being able to eat...it was not helpful LOL ) Those incorrect accusations of Anorexic are long gone for sure LOL

[sadia]

No one who hasn't been through what we have will ever understand 100%.. And people always make their own assumptions lol

[Judie]

No one who hasn't been through what we have will ever understand 100%.. And people always make their own assumptions lol
Yes they do ! The trouble is they are often so far off base. Look at the positive, you will be a great support system for someone some day. This disorder most definitely takes empathy.

[sadia]

Thank u JUDIE, hopefully I will be some help to someone someday...

[Judie]

Thank u JUDIE, hopefully I will be some help to someone someday...
Sadia, I'm sure you already are a great support system to many,especially here on the Forum given that you stand up to the anxiety and do what you need to do to get better. Keep getting out ok

[sadia]

Hi judie.. Yes have jus been out with my sister took a 10min walk to a friends house, and went to the supermarket with our friend and her mum.. And walked back home aswel.. So far days been goin good.. How r u

[mid]

Hurrah! I love the slamming door idea. Going out in the garden is the best way to soothe the sensations, too! Here's to a wonderful time for everyone!

[sadia]

Thank you mid

[Loohna]

I also suffer from a feeling of impending doom or death, and it's really difficult to do, but you just have to keep reminding yourself that it's just the anxiety that is making you feel this way, and that you are NOT going to die.

[sadia]

Loohna, hope you are doing well.. I know what you are saying is right but sometimes it's hard to convince yourself.. But hopefully we will all beat this

[Judie]

Loohna, hope you are doing well.. I know what you are saying is right but sometimes it's hard to convince yourself.. But hopefully we will all beat this

Sadia remove the word " hopefully " from that sentence OK :)))))))))))))))) How are your muscles feeling better yet ? Soon if not now.

[sadia]

Lol judie I will remove that word.. There a bit better slightyl achy but not as much.. How are you??

[Judie]

Lol judie I will remove that word.. There a bit better slightyl achy but not as much.. How are you??

Excellent I am a couple of days ahead of you and they truly are feeling better, definitely not as bad. We really must have been working those muscles out LOL

[sadia]

Lol haha we must have been.. I'm god your feeling better.. R u finally having your dip in the tub tomrw

[sadia]

I'm not even anxious today and I'm keep having palpitations :$...

[Judie]

I'm not even anxious today and I'm keep having palpitations :$...

That's just the anxiety showing itself through the palpitations. That happens a lot to people, does that to me as well with no other symptoms. I am sensitive to cafffiene, especially dark chocolate but I still eat it, regardless of palps because I know what they are.I will be dipping tomorrow or Wednesday ! Remember no / or just a little caffeine, the magnesium will help those as well :)

[sadia]

Hi hope everyone is doing well.. I've checked my blood pressure a few times today and its normal but my heart rate is higher then usual it's between 96 and 100 each time I check.. And it's not sitting well with me.. That's how everything started back in the beginning, me having a high heart rate... It's not sitting well with me

[Judie]

Hi hope everyone is doing well.. I've checked my blood pressure a few times today and its normal but my heart rate is higher then usual it's between 96 and 100 each time I check.. And it's not sitting well with me.. That's how everything started back in the beginning, me having a high heart rate... It's not sitting well with me

Hi Sadia, That's fine, normal range is 60-100. Fast Heart is one of the most common symptoms of anxiety ( often the first symptom for people to notice ) Because it is our heart it is very easy for people to over react to this and that is how fear is instilled and Panic begins to take over our thoughts. But the fact is when you exercise ( walk fast, run, swim etc your heart rate increases because you are pumping out adrenaline ( energy) because your body needs that fuel ) What's happening here is that because of the fear of the elevated heart rate your mind is sending out signals that it needs energy to " fight the beast ". It doesn't, actually nothing more then an overreaction. Just like when you exercise after you stop for a period of time your heart rate slows ( it no longer needs the energy), the same stands true for once you remove the Negative Thoughts ( the cry for energy to fight the beast ) the heart slows, because there is nothing there that requires the energy ( increased heart rate etc...) Be Well Sadia, Take a break from all of this if you can...even for just a short while. :)

[sadia]

I'm trying JUDIE..

[Judie]

I'm trying JUDIE..

I know you are.

[Judie]

I'm trying JUDIE..
You are trying hard, that's why I want you to take a break from trying so hard ( thinking about everything you can do to get better puts focus on the anxiety) I have just started reading some books on self esteem, which is another key reason for anxiety disorder. This one's free, do you have a Kindle/ Account with Amazon ? Lots of good "free" reads. ;) I am boosting my self esteem, I will be a Goddess soon LOL

[sadia]

Lol.. I'm reading a book at the moment aswel called you can heal your life by Louise hay which is quite interesting.. I know I'm goin to push my self not to think about it theres just something that happens in the day that brings it all back

[Judie]

You are trying hard, that's why I want you to take a break from trying so hard ( thinking about everything you can do to get better puts focus on the anxiety) I have just started reading some books on self esteem, which is another key reason for anxiety disorder. This one's free, do you have a Kindle/ Account with Amazon ? Lots of good "free" reads. ;) I am boosting my self esteem, I will be a Goddess soon LOL

I know it's very diificult, fear grabs us and won't let go without a struggle. That's why so many War Vets comes- back from War with PTSD, all those memories and that paralysing fear :(

[Lin]

Stadia I used to get so frustrated I used to know I was doing everything anyone suggested for me to get better and I just wasn't.
But you just have to keep plodding on and hope that one day something will click, even if only a little thing, and that glimmer of hope can lead to more and bigger things so you start to feel much better.

[Judie]

Lol.. I'm reading a book at the moment aswel called you can heal your life by Louise hay which is quite interesting.. I know I'm goin to push my self not to think about it theres just something that happens in the day that brings it all back
Hi, I just purchased this on my Kindle, well actually got this and two of her other books as well ( together in a Kindle Addition called " Golden". Now we can talk about this !!! Fun Fun Fun loll

[sadia]

Stadia I used to get so frustrated I used to know I was doing everything anyone suggested for me to get better and I just wasn't.
But you just have to keep plodding on and hope that one day something will click, even if only a little thing, and that glimmer of hope can lead to more and bigger things so you start to feel much better.

Thank u Lin, I really appreciate you saying that... Hope you are doing well

[Judie]

Thank u Lin, I really appreciate you saying that... Hope you are doing well

Sadia,you are getting better,comparably you are getting much much better. How is your day ? What are your thoughts on the book ? I found her take on resentment causing physical illness intriguing, and the idea of forgiveness as so important to health. I do love her way to forgive " I forgive you for not being the person " I " wanted you to be" , it's easier to forgive on that note instead of having to forgive for the acts they have done. Takes responsibility for our feelings and " thoughts", easier to release ? Be Well