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wrstone
07-30-2012, 11:16 AM
Background info: I'm 47 years old and have suffered from crippling anxiety since the third grade. No medication I've ever been prescribed has helped, and I've been on all of them at one time or another. The best I can get is occasional relief, but nothing lasts.

This is impacting my job. I'm a college professor and I simply can't perform when the anxiety level rises beyond a certain point.

Anxiety and depression is all I know. It's all I remember. I wake scared, stay that way all day, and only sleep because of mirtazapine.

My parents are both psychologists and I have had a therapist most of my life. I'm a friggin' expert in CBT, relaxation techniques, breathing exercises ... nothing works.

With my background, I'm bright and pragmatic enough to realize that this is probably never going away. The reality is that if you hit my age and have tried everything and nothing works, the probability is that what you have is simply untreatable at present.

In 2000, I had sinus surgery and was prescribed hydrocodone for pain while recuperating.

Unsurprisingly, the opiate turned out to be the magic cure for everything that ailed me. For the first time in my memory, I felt human. I could do my job easily and productively and was a hell of a lot more well-adjusted.

Also unsurprisingly, I got addicted to the stuff. I went cold-turkey on January 1, 2004. It was several days of misery and when it was over, the anxiety hit again.

In the last eight years, I've been totally unable to find anything that worked. It was just like the preceding entirety of my life.

I am one click away from intentionally re-activating my hydrocodone addiction. I'm considering this with entirely open eyes. I know what going back on hydrocodone will do to me. I know that it has the potential to ultimately cause health problems that might kill me. I understand that I will need increasingly stronger doses in order to get any effect.

However, it seems as though I have two choices. I can either:

Stay with medications and therapy that have little to no effect; and potentially live to be a very scared, frakked-up old man, or,

Start taking hydrocodone again and be human for the time I've got. I might not live as long, but I'll sure be a lot happier.

I can't see where the downside is to hydrocodone, to be honest. It's cheaper than the mirtazapine, even at high doses. Yes, I'll be harming myself and probably won't live as long, but I'll at least be a human being while I'm on the planet.

I honestly can't see the downside. I have something that will never go away except with hydrocodone. I won't live as long, but what I have will be much happier.

Am I wrong?

bhamlaxy
07-30-2012, 11:51 AM
Do you have a psychiatrist? Could you speak with them about trying to use it in a well regulated manner? Or maybe a different opiate with less potential for harm? Maybe you could balance out the need for an opiate with safety and find something that works.

wrstone
07-30-2012, 11:54 AM
I have a psychiatrist and therapist. No reputable psychiatrist will prescribe hydrocodone as the risks are too great. It's not a recognized treatment and when it ultimately does bad things to me the psych would be liable. I could sue him and win.

As to something that works, there simply isn't anything. Every single med listed in this forum has been tried. At 47, it is no longer appropriate to hold out that hope.

jessy
07-30-2012, 12:33 PM
I feel your pain , I'm in a similar boat .
Had crippling anxiety & depression for 16 /17 years & tried so many diff drugs & therapies over the years .
I was prescribe dihydracodine for back pain a few years back & it really improved my life , my anxiety went & my depression , however I was clearly addicted & needed more & more to feel the same effects from it , I came off eventually .

I can understand what you are saying , if it worked for you & you are desperate it's an option . It's pure hell when things are so bad & you get to a point where desperation kicks in or suicidal thoughts take over .

I can't tell you to use the drug or not to , that's your choice . Think long & hard before you make a decision & good luck x

wrstone
07-30-2012, 01:18 PM
Thanks, Jesse, and I am thinking long and hard about it. I recognize that it will shorten my lifespan. I'm wrestling with it now. Is it better to have a long, fairly miserable life; or to have a shorter, happier one?

Obviously I'm leaning toward the latter. Thanks for the input.

Yanni
07-30-2012, 02:22 PM
I'm sort of in the same place you are. I'm allergic to Benzos, and codeine kills my anxiety dead. Like you said, no one will perscribe opiates for anti anxiety purposes.
In my opinion, if you can find a middle ground between vicodin and dealing with your misery, that would be ideal. Opiate addiction is very serious and can cause major problems. If you can find something that works in conjunction with a small dose of vicodin, I don't see a problem.
Have you tried Haliperidol? That can help anxiety in small doses.

wrstone
07-30-2012, 03:45 PM
Yanni:

I'm not allergic to benzos, but they don't really do much for me.

Unfortunately, I'm very familiar with opiate addiction, having gone through withdrawal once before. Admittedly, it's been eight years, but I'd probably take that over constant, life-long, irrational terror.

I'll have a look at Haliperidol. It's one of the few meds I don't recognize.

CeeJ
07-30-2012, 03:55 PM
Hi just thought I would pop in :) well today ive been really struggleing and thinking about my anxiety! Thinking about when will it end? When will I get better? Am I stuck with this hell the rest of my life? After reading your posts theres not much hope! I try an stay really positive and dont read the negative! Hate life!!

alankay
07-30-2012, 04:45 PM
Stone, I hear you as far as quality of life goes. Have you tried Miltown(Meprobamate) or even barbiturates? Or even MAOIs? At least you have a chance off getting them rx'ed if they worked. Alankay

Yanni
08-04-2012, 01:23 PM
my anti anxiety med of choice for a while was Miltown, what Alankay recommended.

emad2929
08-05-2012, 10:14 PM
R u engaged?!

jessy
08-07-2012, 02:28 AM
Hi , thought I'd check in & see how your getting on ??? And if you made a decision?
Really hope you are feeling a little better :-) jessy

GreenPlz
08-11-2012, 12:40 AM
I have met a few people who could never find anything to calm them Crazy, but there are several meds that work for me.

tstont
08-11-2012, 07:06 PM
I assume you've tried natural remedies? Omega 3 with high EPA? Passion Flower drops (surprising they really help with my anxiety). SAM-e is helpful (400mg/day) taken with a B complex (important to take the B as it prevents the SAM-e from raising the levels of homocysteine in your blood) Have you tried a reputable Chinese herbalist? I have one that is quite good. My wife damn near lost her mind after her father passed away. She couldn't get a grip-cried for no reason, had terrible nightmares etc. A local Chinese herbalist put her on herbal remedies that (I swear) turned her around in 48 hours. I really doubted Chinese medicine until she saw this guy and I am now a believer. I see him when things get bad for me and usually within a couple of days of starting his treatments I'm much better. I'd try these avenues if you haven't already first.
I feel for you man!
Todd